R9 280x will work with this PS?

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khrystiano

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Hi, I'm just wondering if this card would work fine with my actual power supply. I got this config actually:
i5-3330@3,00ghz
8gbs DDR3 1333 (4+2+2)
Gigabyte z77-dsh3
Fuente Cooler Master e600
HD 5850 Xtreme

Also, what card is better, the R9 280 DirectCU II TOP or the 280x Sapphire Dual-X? I mean, I got an small box with a very poor air flux so it's important to me the fact of getting the card in a good range of temps. Also, I want power to play the games.

Actually I play at 720p.

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I would buy a GTX 960. Three reasons:
- you don't need 3GB VRAM for 720p, and in case you upgrade your monitor to a higher resolution (i.e. 1080p) you'll still be fine with the GTX 960
- if your case has limited airflow, GTX 960 is better since it consumes less power and therefore needs less cooling
- the low resolution puts more emphasis on the performance of your CPU - but NVIDIA drivers aren't so demanding on the CPU so you're less likely to have your framerates limited by the CPU
 
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Well thanks for you reply but these cards are too much expensives for my pocket. A friend offers me both cards (280 - 140$ and 280x 160$) so I don't really have a choice, anyway, it would be a huge increase from my 5850 or that's what people say.
 
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massive improvement over the 5850. The power supply is enough, your fans might run noisier but it should be fine as long as your case isn't completely messed up in terms of air.

but to be sure what are the amps on your PSU? Does it have pci-e power connectors?

280x is best in the range
 
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Those prices seem a tad high for used 280(x), new cards are not much more expensive, going by US prices. They make more sense converted to euros, however... I'm guessing you're Europe? Spain, maybe?

I would take the Asus 280. 280X is not more than around 10 percent faster, it's not going to make a difference on 720p. Also, if your friend still has the original receipt, it should still be covered by warranty. Asus' warranty is 3 years, Sapphire's only 2 years.

As for the power supply - buy a new one. Cooler Master has some decent units but E600 is not one of them. The short 2 year warranty indicates the unit isn't built from high quality parts, especially the capacitors are most likely cheap 85 degree rated Chinese ones. Furthermore, it doesn't have an 80 Plus certification. And it only has 408W on the +12V rail, which makes it more like a 450-500 watt unit. A good 450W unit is just enough for a 280(X), but with a unit as poor quality as the E600, I would definitely not risk it.

You'll also help your PC's cooling by upgrading to a newer, more efficient unit (80+ Bronze or 80+ Gold). If you link me to a shop you use, I can recommend something.
 
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Well, tahnks for the reply, I don't know too much as it refers to PS... I only got this but I don't know how to interpret the info:

http://www.coolermaster.com/powersupply/extreme/extreme-power-plus-600w/

Well, do you really think that prices are high for a used 280(x)? (160$ its aprox. 150€ or so) I don't know, I can try to negotiate the price but my friends won't accept any offers, I know him, anyway, the card its almost new, he just replaced it for a new 980 after 6 months so its a "new" card.

About the PSU, I don't have enough money to change both things...

PD : Okay, heres the shop: www.pccomponentes.com you can try something in a good range quality/price if you want, thank you!
 
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Well, do you really think that prices are high for a used 280(x)? (160$ its aprox. 150€ or so)
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In euros, the prices are fine, esp. if your friend has the original receipts. In the US you wouldn't need to pay tax for an online purchase, but in Europe you do so you can't compare the prices for new GPU's strictly in terms of their currency values. For instance, you can get a new R9 280 for $175 in the US which converts to 160 euros, but in Europe a new R9 280 will typically cost closer to 200 euros because of the added VAT. So 140 euros for a lightly used R9 280 is fine, esp. since it's an Asus DCII TOP card and not an el cheapo Club3D or some such.

About the PSU, I don't have enough money to change both things...
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I would upgrade the PSU first to make sure it's good quality (i.e. at least on par with the rest of your system), then upgrade the graphics card when possible.

You can try to sell your B600 to someone who needs a cheap PSU for a cheap PC, and put that towards your GPU upgrade. Could get 20-30 euros for it if it's relatively new.

PD : Okay, heres the shop: www.pccomponentes.com you can try something in a good range quality/price if you want, thank you!
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The cheapest unit I'd consider for an i5 + R9 280(X) rig: Seasonic S12II 520W. Despite the lower wattage, it actually has a more powerful +12V rail (480W). It's also much more efficient and has top quality capacitors (along with Seasonic's build quality which tends to be better Channel Well Tech's, the manufacturer of the B600) and it's covered by 5 year warranty. It's probably quieter as well.

If that's too expensive to even consider a GPU upgrade in the near future... well, it's really up to you whether to risk it with the B600 or keep saving. Maybe you could sell the 5850 as well to recoup some of the cost of the new PSU? Or tell your friend you need a new PSU for the R9 280 but can't afford the price he's asking so he needs to lower it :p
 
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Okay, thank you... I think I would take the risk since my friend will let me test the card... Anyway, the minimun PSU requirement for the card is 500w and ppl told me that this PSU is good enough... not a great PSU but it'll work.

About the PSU, yeah, its too expensive for me and I don't have friends that mayb need a cheap PSU, my latest PSU as a Thermaltake 600W so I think that PSU is better.

About the card... so should I take the 280x for 160€ or the 280 DUII for 140€?
 
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If you only play at 720p, the 280X is way overkill, it's very capable of 1080p with mostly high/ultra in many games.
 
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Well I play at 1366x768 so... should I take the 280? You said 280x its too overkill.. but its only 10€ (10$ expensive than 280), I don't know what to do
 
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honestly I'd got with 280X - yes its overkill - but means you'll be able to run a little more AA; VSR - and I like the cooler a little better on the sapphire compaired to the old Asus DII cooler. DIII cooler is better.....but that's not here or there

10 more euros....its a good buy
 
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khrystiano said:
Hi, I was checking the cards and I just realized that both consumes the same power... 250 watts.. in what terms do the 280 consumes less power?

http://www.hwcompare.com/17659/radeon-r9-280-vs-radeon-r9-280x/

Greetings.
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Max TDP is not actual power consumption. Here is actual power consumption:

280X 239W
280 172W

That is a massive difference. 280 offers much better perf / watt. Based on the fact that your power supply is not that good quality, I recommend the less power hungry 280. Play it safe. You're never going to miss the small <10% difference in performance.
 
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Ah, that's a better explanation, thank you! now I get it.

My friend just lowered the price of the card for me :\
 
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Ahhhhh, some ppl told me to get the 280 and other ppl told me to get the 280x. Honestly I would go to the Sapphire 280x since MeldarthX said that has a better cooling... may I try to get the 280x and then eventually another PSU?
 
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It seems you really want the 280X and no matter what I or anybody else says you're still going to buy the 280X. Then go for it.

I still recommend the lower wattage 280. The fact that you save 10&#8364; there means you can put that 10&#8364; towards a new power supply, right?
 
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khrystiano

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Ah sorry, its just that I dont know what of this 2 gps got the better cooling, but you are right in the point of the PSU
 
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