R520...?

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: Intelia
Ronin you say you have access to their internal drivers but there are people in the world Ronin that have access to much more than that.

What was your point? There's nobody here, save Anand and his crew, that have the access that I do to either nVidia or ATi related items (cards, drivers, motherboards, etc).

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

Ronin Zinn is online gaming at present . You just got him killed 10 times he is laughing so hard . You know were he's at. He say's come on bring your power house pc to the game LOL.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: Intelia

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: Intelia
Ronin you say you have access to their internal drivers but there are people in the world Ronin that have access to much more than that.

What was your point? There's nobody here, save Anand and his crew, that have the access that I do to either nVidia or ATi related items (cards, drivers, motherboards, etc).

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

Ronin Zinn is online gaming at present . You just got him killed 10 times he is laughing so hard . You know were he's at. He say's come on bring your power house pc to the game LOL.

Intelia enough about Zinn and quit annoying Ronin, Ronin quit replying to this clown and quit feeding the troll.

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Nice work Creig. I say nay can't be . No way! They ain't ! ARE THEY??????

Here is a real ? why is ATI being so slow to bring the programmable R520 with the new X chip Tech to market. Some say its yeild problems. Could it be that ATI wants to bring SLI performance to the masses in a single Card formate. Is that possiable? Some would say yes it is .

Here is another ? why haven't we heard the Xbox R500 chip is having no problems with yields. This chip is even more advanced than the R520.

You know what cell has shaken ATI and their going to come out with a show stopper GPU .

In the rumor meal I have heard Ati maybe adding the PPU chip to their R580 . Well that may have changed and we may see it on the R520. That would explain the Redesign of the card and the time required to make the changes.

One more ? wouldyou pay $1000 for the top of the line ATI card that outperforms 2 nvidia 7800 in sli. That would mean no upgrade to present PCI-E . And if 2 cards working together from ati in the cheaper segment would perform almost as good as their top of the line card and still have the coolness of 2 cards that would be cool also.

It seems to me Ati is touching all the bases.

ATi after thier succesful run at thier 3rd tape out of the R520 will be building up stock so they can do a hard launch, and many have said here it will probably be abour 2 to 3 months fo good quantities to build up.

The R500 is being made by the same company but its a totally different architecture, it sure might be more advanced but maybe because it doesnt have insanely high clock speeds and is still being built on a 3 year old core (which is not a bad thing) might be the reason?

Cell? Thats a CPU...

Do you know how big a PPU is? over 300 transistors, and Ageia have stated they are building this on the 130nm die, to keep costs down. Meaning this processor will be HUGE! I have no idea how they are gonna put this on a graphics card which will be over 300 transistors and still be quite big even for a 90nm die size.

And so far Ageia have only announced ASUS as a partner for now, and the fact that the PPU is stated by Ageia to cost up to $300.

The PCB will have to be ENORMOUS!!! probably longer than the workstation GPUs and the fact the heatsink and fan would be loud as hell and massive. And it will probably need about 200-300 watts just to run!

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: Intelia
Ronin you say you have access to their internal drivers but there are people in the world Ronin that have access to much more than that.

What was your point? There's nobody here, save Anand and his crew, that have the access that I do to either nVidia or ATi related items (cards, drivers, motherboards, etc).

You dont have access to sh!t, shut your hole.

 

[Ronin]

Right, bud...right. Keep talkin out your ass. The moniker in my sig says it all about you (www.dictionary.com if you don't know what a moniker is).

 

[Intelia]

Didn't Asus put 2 Nvidia Gpu'S on one card than cancel the card because of the 7800. I think there is plenty of room for a PPU . Just because Ageria hasn't announced a partnership with ATi doesn't mean they haven't made a deal with them and Nvidia also.

Wasn't it just a few short post ago that you same people said Samsung doesn't have a 1.1 memory well it seems they have 1.0 . So it would seem some are informed and some want to be's are not.

As for what some people have access to from Ati . Now there's a real question . Ronin been running an ATI R520 for 3 months according to him .

Post that E-Mail you sent ATI Ronin and the reply!

As for my husband Zinn2b he really does find your replies funny . Insulting but funny none the less.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Drayvn

Originally posted by: Intelia
Nice work Creig. I say nay can't be . No way! They ain't ! ARE THEY??????

Here is a real ? why is ATI being so slow to bring the programmable R520 with the new X chip Tech to market. Some say its yeild problems. Could it be that ATI wants to bring SLI performance to the masses in a single Card formate. Is that possiable? Some would say yes it is .

Here is another ? why haven't we heard the Xbox R500 chip is having no problems with yields. This chip is even more advanced than the R520.

You know what cell has shaken ATI and their going to come out with a show stopper GPU .

In the rumor meal I have heard Ati maybe adding the PPU chip to their R580 . Well that may have changed and we may see it on the R520. That would explain the Redesign of the card and the time required to make the changes.

One more ? wouldyou pay $1000 for the top of the line ATI card that outperforms 2 nvidia 7800 in sli. That would mean no upgrade to present PCI-E . And if 2 cards working together from ati in the cheaper segment would perform almost as good as their top of the line card and still have the coolness of 2 cards that would be cool also.

It seems to me Ati is touching all the bases.

ATi after thier succesful run at thier 3rd tape out of the R520 will be building up stock so they can do a hard launch, and many have said here it will probably be abour 2 to 3 months fo good quantities to build up.

The R500 is being made by the same company but its a totally different architecture, it sure might be more advanced but maybe because it doesnt have insanely high clock speeds and is still being built on a 3 year old core (which is not a bad thing) might be the reason?

Cell? Thats a CPU...

Do you know how big a PPU is? over 300 transistors, and Ageia have stated they are building this on the 130nm die, to keep costs down. Meaning this processor will be HUGE! I have no idea how they are gonna put this on a graphics card which will be over 300 transistors and still be quite big even for a 90nm die size.

And so far Ageia have only announced ASUS as a partner for now, and the fact that the PPU is stated by Ageia to cost up to $300.

The PCB will have to be ENORMOUS!!! probably longer than the workstation GPUs and the fact the heatsink and fan would be loud as hell and massive. And it will probably need about 200-300 watts just to run!

Well you read the Inquirer. Ati started with what 600GHZ and now its up to 750 GHZ that would explain the Shake and bake . Could you post a link to the information that shows the R500 to be on the old Ati GPU . I would like to read that. as for the Ageia 130nm Die thats true but there will be differant transistor counts for differant products I believe 3 were mentioned.

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: Intelia

Originally posted by: Drayvn

Originally posted by: Intelia
Nice work Creig. I say nay can't be . No way! They ain't ! ARE THEY??????

Here is a real ? why is ATI being so slow to bring the programmable R520 with the new X chip Tech to market. Some say its yeild problems. Could it be that ATI wants to bring SLI performance to the masses in a single Card formate. Is that possiable? Some would say yes it is .

Here is another ? why haven't we heard the Xbox R500 chip is having no problems with yields. This chip is even more advanced than the R520.

You know what cell has shaken ATI and their going to come out with a show stopper GPU .

In the rumor meal I have heard Ati maybe adding the PPU chip to their R580 . Well that may have changed and we may see it on the R520. That would explain the Redesign of the card and the time required to make the changes.

One more ? wouldyou pay $1000 for the top of the line ATI card that outperforms 2 nvidia 7800 in sli. That would mean no upgrade to present PCI-E . And if 2 cards working together from ati in the cheaper segment would perform almost as good as their top of the line card and still have the coolness of 2 cards that would be cool also.

It seems to me Ati is touching all the bases.

ATi after thier succesful run at thier 3rd tape out of the R520 will be building up stock so they can do a hard launch, and many have said here it will probably be abour 2 to 3 months fo good quantities to build up.

The R500 is being made by the same company but its a totally different architecture, it sure might be more advanced but maybe because it doesnt have insanely high clock speeds and is still being built on a 3 year old core (which is not a bad thing) might be the reason?

Cell? Thats a CPU...

Do you know how big a PPU is? over 300 transistors, and Ageia have stated they are building this on the 130nm die, to keep costs down. Meaning this processor will be HUGE! I have no idea how they are gonna put this on a graphics card which will be over 300 transistors and still be quite big even for a 90nm die size.

And so far Ageia have only announced ASUS as a partner for now, and the fact that the PPU is stated by Ageia to cost up to $300.

The PCB will have to be ENORMOUS!!! probably longer than the workstation GPUs and the fact the heatsink and fan would be loud as hell and massive. And it will probably need about 200-300 watts just to run!

Well you read the Inquirer. Ati started with what 600GHZ and now its up to 750 GHZ that would explain the Shake and bake . Could you post a link to the information that shows the R500 to be on the old Ati GPU . I would like to read that. as for the Ageia 130nm Die thats true but there will be differant transistor counts for differant products I believe 3 were mentioned.

Sorry i meant to say isnt made on a 3 year old tech.

And anyway its far to early for GFX card companies to be adopting the PPU, of course there will be different versions, but still the price of each of them will be insane. Fancy putting an extra $200 just for a PPU thats only in 1 game thats gonna be coming out at the end of next year?

Oh and typo on the Ghz thing.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Didn't Asus put 2 Nvidia Gpu'S on one card than cancel the card because of the 7800. I think there is plenty of room for a PPU . Just because Ageria hasn't announced a partnership with ATi doesn't mean they haven't made a deal with them and Nvidia also.

Wasn't it just a few short post ago that you same people said Samsung doesn't have a 1.1 memory well it seems they have 1.0 . So it would seem some are informed and some want to be's are not.

As for what some people have access to from Ati . Now there's a real question . Ronin been running an ATI R520 for 3 months according to him .

Post that E-Mail you sent ATI Ronin and the reply!

As for my husband Zinn2b he really does find your replies funny . Insulting but funny none the less.

Tell your husband I could give a fvck about what he thinks is funny or not. I don't know him, and I don't know you, and based on the way that you act, and the way that you describe him, I don't want to. Talk your husband up all you want...I don't care about either of you. You have NO idea who *I* am, what I do, and what I have access to, and frankly put, I don't need to prove it to you. Tell your husband Zinn to go suck a fat one if he has to use you to speak through, #1, and #2, if he's such a bigshot, maybe he should explain it to the rest of us.

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Right, bud...right. Keep talkin out your ass. The moniker in my sig says it all about you (www.dictionary.com if you don't know what a moniker is).

That "moniker" in your sig always gives me a good laugh at how pathetic you are.

It makes me laugh that my posts bother you so much, are my posts getting to you Ronin, try not to kill your self.

You actually think I care what you put in your sig?

Good day.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[FlasHBurN]

Oh, and about the 'internal' build release #'s. You can actually see their internal build number in their release drivers. If you open up the control panel, and then go to 'Options' the internal number is seen as the 'Packaging Number'. Just an FYI.

 

[Ronin]

Which aren't funneled through into 3dMark..but thanks for trying to validate a nonexistent point.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Holy fvck. If only it was real and at retail... I want a 750MHz core and 1600MHz memory.

 

[Ronin]

Don't we all, Kensai..don't we all. lol

 

[FlasHBurN]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Which aren't funneled through into 3dMark..but thanks for trying to validate a nonexistent point.

Excuse me, but the point is, that the driver version is a real driver version, just that it is old, and internal only. 3DMark would report that version, if you were using the internal drivers. But, thanks for trying!

 

[Ronin]

You're wrong, but you can certainly keep trying to convince everyone else otherwise. Keep chuggin, lil choo choo!

 

[theMan]

BS. how could they get a core clock of 750. and the memory clock, was that in ddr speed or actual speed? fake fake fake.

 

[FlasHBurN]

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[Shamrock]

Originally posted by: cbehnken

Originally posted by: Shamrock
You guys and your LCD's....on my CRT, I can CLEARLY see the little blue "boxing" around the letters. Someone has chopped letters and numbers from a real post and pasted them in, you can visibly see the box "look" to the colors on the characters. The only clear jpg degradation that is REAL, is on the headers (bold type face) such as "CPU Info" and "Texture Formats" all bold. Oh, and of course the "3DMARK" logo. But yet, the watermark in the upper right hand corner is SUPERBLY clear!?!?

I dont have 3dmark05, but if someone wants me to chop them one up, in 30 minutes I can have you owning an Athlon128 @12000Mhz, and an NVidia 9800GTX-P running at 1000/4000Mhz

You've never actually seen an LCD made after 1986 have you?

The boxing is CLEARY visible on this POS LCD I have at work that is made in 2001.

Anyway, sorry to get off topic. This is cleary fake because of the memory speed issue. Depending on how it's being rated in this shoot it's either way to high or way too low.

LOL, good one, 1986, LOL...were you BORN in '86?

I have seen MANY LCD's not live up to my standards, I goto Best buy almost monthly (just to browse, NOT to buy) and the ONLY LCD that doesnt give me a headache after 20 minutes is this one: Sony SDM-HS95P

I've tried Veiwsonic, Older Sony, Samsung, Dell, Even your miraculous NEC/Mitsu...they all suck compared to my CRT, and it's a crappy Walmart KDS from 2000. I'm sure the newer ones with 12ms and below are getting better, though.

Not to be off topic, we are both in agreement, it's a photoChop.

 

[Mardeth]

Theres 120k members. Its likely that someone works for either company.

 

[imported_goku]

I just realized, If you look at the "local texture memory" it matches the Video memory at 512MB which is absolutely incorrect because generally video cards have more texture memory than video memory. For example a 4MB Rage pro video card has about 24MB of texture memory.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Izusaga
With a core that high I find it extremely difficult to believe.

Don't the specs on that page indicate it's a 16 pipe card though? 750mhz with 16 pipes....hmm....what's 7800gtx?

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Shamrock

Originally posted by: cbehnken

Originally posted by: Shamrock
You guys and your LCD's....on my CRT, I can CLEARLY see the little blue "boxing" around the letters. Someone has chopped letters and numbers from a real post and pasted them in, you can visibly see the box "look" to the colors on the characters. The only clear jpg degradation that is REAL, is on the headers (bold type face) such as "CPU Info" and "Texture Formats" all bold. Oh, and of course the "3DMARK" logo. But yet, the watermark in the upper right hand corner is SUPERBLY clear!?!?

I dont have 3dmark05, but if someone wants me to chop them one up, in 30 minutes I can have you owning an Athlon128 @12000Mhz, and an NVidia 9800GTX-P running at 1000/4000Mhz

You've never actually seen an LCD made after 1986 have you?

The boxing is CLEARY visible on this POS LCD I have at work that is made in 2001.

Anyway, sorry to get off topic. This is cleary fake because of the memory speed issue. Depending on how it's being rated in this shoot it's either way to high or way too low.

LOL, good one, 1986, LOL...were you BORN in '86?

I have seen MANY LCD's not live up to my standards, I goto Best buy almost monthly (just to browse, NOT to buy) and the ONLY LCD that doesnt give me a headache after 20 minutes is this one: Sony SDM-HS95P

I've tried Veiwsonic, Older Sony, Samsung, Dell, Even your miraculous NEC/Mitsu...they all suck compared to my CRT, and it's a crappy Walmart KDS from 2000. I'm sure the newer ones with 12ms and below are getting better, though.

Not to be off topic, we are both in agreement, it's a photoChop.

So you sit at Best Buy for over 20 mins and look at the same LCD? Hmm...

If a LCD gives you a headache, more than likely somehow its not setup right. LCD's are much easier on the eyes than CRTs. Especially playing in the dark.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: Izusaga
With a core that high I find it extremely difficult to believe.

Don't the specs on that page indicate it's a 16 pipe card though? 750mhz with 16 pipes....hmm....what's 7800gtx?

You have to remember the pipes are no longer measured the same with the Ati cards now . Their programmable which is said to be 1/3 more. So 16 pipes would be equal to around 21 pipes by the old standards 24=32/// 32=44 . Thats why were in no rush for the First release of the R520 . David says its a wonderful card but the R580 with 32working pipes that= 44 should be rather special. and it well arrive at about the same time as Merom and Conroe.

That would also give me about 2 years of usage I got out of this X800XT PE which is pretty good usage/ and 4 years on the CPU . So I want to milk it a little longer. Other wise value for the$$ really doesn't mean much.