R520 Spy pics

[mooncancook]

nice! looks like it's for real that we'll see a 16 pipe R520 in Oct. It'll be really interesting to see how the 16 pipe R520 (XL I assume) stack up against a 20 pipe 7800GT and how ATI will price it. From the tone of the article it seems to me that it'll take a 24 pipe version to dethrone the 7800GTX.

 

[touchmyichi]

oh ati, please please please don't pull a 5800 here. While something is telling me this will be good, it just has a lot of similarities w/ 5800. It's weird that ATI is so big now, I remember back w/ cards like 9700/9800 that they were able to get killer preformance with such small cards. Anyways, if they pull a 32 for their GTX competitor and a 24 for the GT competitor then they should be in the game no doubt.

 

[RichUK]

i cant wait for the 32pip model, unless nVidia release their ultra to combat this .. i think either one is going to by my xmas prezy from santa along with a PCI-e mobo

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
nice

there was post earlier with pics of the GPU die, but it had some things blurred out

looks just like their current set up, that coolers a beast, its ashame they coudnt squeeze it back down to a single slot though, (for the top product...i know the XL down has single cooling). and in my experience that fan is loud. but then every fan is loud when all your cooling equipment is zalman

again the name X1800.....doesnt really have a ring to it, it sounds awkward. and dammit no word on the number of pipes! and if those clocks are right...then i dunno...they dont seem all that high, will Nv have the more efficient architecture again?

i cant wait to see the ding dong battle this has with the 7800

My 850xt cooler is extremely quiet!

same here :thumbsup:

maybes my friend got a duff? i can hear his over the 6 80mm case fans hes got!

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
oh ati, please please please don't pull a 5800 here. While something is telling me this will be good, it just has a lot of similarities w/ 5800. It's weird that ATI is so big now, I remember back w/ cards like 9700/9800 that they were able to get killer preformance with such small cards. Anyways, if they pull a 32 for their GTX competitor and a 24 for the GT competitor then they should be in the game no doubt.

What does the size of the card got to do with performance anyway? The 6800 Ultra / 7800GTX isn't exactly small either.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: DeeSlanger
First look, Specs translated in English

Wow. That's the real deal. It is an earlier revision, though. They admit that newer revisions will most likely be shipping. So what we're seeing is not the finished product.

 

[Pabster]

Looks like the 16-piper is going to fall short of the 7800GTX.

Frankly the only interesting aspect is the 1.26ns DDR3 modules which are superior to the 1.4ns modules which ship with 7800 series boards.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Looks like the 16-piper is going to fall short of the 7800GTX.

Frankly the only interesting aspect is the 1.26ns DDR3 modules which are superior to the 1.4ns modules which ship with 7800 series boards.

Yes, but a "16 piper" R520 will most likely be the X1800 Pro variant, not a direct competitor to the 7800GTX. The "24 piper" will be the XL variant, and the "32 piper" will be the OMG WTF XT PE edition.

 

[g3pro]

D'oh! It's a two slot solution!

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: g3pro
D'oh! It's a two slot solution!

Not necessarily. The final shipping version cooler hasn't been finalized yet.

The cooler solution on the card is yet to be determined and the original intention is the use the Dual Slot cooling solution. Since the R520 core is manufactured on 90nm micron process with power optimizations therefore the final sample may employ single slot cooling solution.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Looks like the 16-piper is going to fall short of the 7800GTX.

Frankly the only interesting aspect is the 1.26ns DDR3 modules which are superior to the 1.4ns modules which ship with 7800 series boards.

that 512bit malarky is interesting too....cant wait to see if theres any substance behind it

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
looks like the longest PCB ATI has produced yet

Cant be much longet than an agp x800xl - those things are loooong

 

[ayabe]

"As the card maker doesn't wish to reveal the R520 performance yet, but we can confirm that R520 at 24pp or 32pp will not be lower than that of the GeForce 7800GTX. Even though the 32pp and 24pp R520 mass production will face some difficulties, but the 16 pipelines R520 using the 90nm core will be clocked high to maintain a certain level of competitiveness. Apart from employing TSMC to make the 90nm R520 cores, UMC will be making them as well in the near future to make up the shortage problem and we can see more of the 32pp and 24pp R520 versions."


So does this mean that the 16 pipe card that will be released in October WILL be slower than a 7800GTX? That's what I read into it, "competitive" means slower. They better offer some attractive prices, I doubt many people are going to be very happy about that either way. Who knows if and when the 24 and 32 pipe versions will appear. bleh.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ayabe
So does this mean that the 16 pipe card that will be released in October WILL be slower than a 7800GTX? That's what I read into it, "competitive" means slower. They better offer some attractive prices, I doubt many people are going to be very happy about that either way. Who knows if and when the 24 and 32 pipe versions will appear. bleh.

That's my understanding as well. I'd expect the 16-piper to be slower than 7800GTX so pricing will be important. But lots of ATi fans will be disappointed, for sure.

As for the 24- and 32-pipe versions. Who knows? If the yields are really as bad as has been speculated, the 32-pipe may never appear at retail because there won't be enough of them.

 

[beserker15]

wow, this sounds like a sofmodding dream. i wonder if the 16pipes version will be able to unlock to 24 or even 32 pipes.

 

[Pabster]

Not likely, as most likely they are all 32-pipe versions but half of the pipes are no good.

 

[Ronin]

I have 2 words for you.

16 pipes.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Ronin
I have 2 words for you.

16 pipes.

I also keep reading that the R520 is a 16 pipe card with some special new ways to use memory.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Ronin
I have 2 words for you.

16 pipes.

And yet some sources claiming there are 24 and 32 pipe versions. So the jury is still out on that one.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Ronin
I have 2 words for you.

16 pipes.

And yet some sources claiming there are 24 and 32 pipe versions. So the jury is still out on that one.

The only differences between the XT, Pro, and XL are clock speeds. Not piplines. They are all sixteen pipe cards just ranging in clocks from 500/1000 (XL) to 550/1250 (Pro) to 600/1400 (XT).

I'm going to take Ronin's 2 words on this one.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: Ronin
I have 2 words for you.

16 pipes.

I also keep reading that the R520 is a 16 pipe card with some special new ways to use memory.

They may have some optimizations and a new memory controller, but 256-bit memory is still 256-bit memory. Maybe they have some way of faking 512-bit. Who knows.
It may be possible for that 512MB card to act as two independant 256-bit 256MB busses no? Maybe with twice the number of registers in the memory controller. So it could be 2x256-bit busses instead of 1x512 bus. Seeing as how 512-bit memory does not exist yet or at least available.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

They may have some optimizations and a new memory controller, but 256-bit memory is still 256-bit memory. Maybe they have some way of faking 512-bit. Who knows.
It may be possible for that 512MB card to act as two independant 256-bit 256MB busses no? Maybe with twice the number of registers in the memory controller. So it could be 2x256-bit busses instead of 1x512 bus. Seeing as how 512-bit memory does not exist yet or at least available.

I go for the optimizations and a new memory controller myself. The 512 bit memory seems unlikely, but does sound like something a sales team would like to promote.

 

[ayabe]

Or perhaps the 32 pipe version will be marketing jargon for 2 X1800's in crossfire.

Edit -This is really bumming me out, I think I'm going to have a very hard time resisting the next XFX 7800GTX sale I see.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Or perhaps the 32 pipe version will be marketing jargon for 2 X1800's in crossfire.

Edit -This is really bumming me out, I think I'm going to have a very hard time resisting the next XFX 7800GTX sale I see.

I'll just wait and see the official specs and benches. I'd like to get the r520, but if it's not faster than the 7800 then I might wait a few months for the r580, hopefully that thing will be available in 32 pipe versions.