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R420 Benchmarks

Where are the site's or poster's credentials?

I'm waiting for an official word that the info and testbeds have been released and granted by ATi.
 
the site claims itself that these aren't actual stats but are "forecasts" Try using babblefish to translate it and you'll see.
It also says that this is only speculative and that it was only to be posted in their forums so they wouldn't lose their credibility for posting fake material.

 
Originally posted by: skgarach
the site claims itself that these aren't actual stats but are "forecasts" Try using babblefish to translate it and you'll see.

It also says that this is only speculative and that it was only to be posted in their forums so they wouldn't lose their credibility for posting fake material.

LOL. yeh i can spend a few minutes making up some graphs too. perhaps he was just showing off how well he can make bar graphs? not to mention rade3d is just a bunch of ati fanboys. i sure as hell like to see a 12 pipe card perform so much faster than a 16 pipe card. :roll:
 
Yeah, they're fake. They extrapolated R420 numbers from an R360, unbelievably enough. And I thought I'd seen everything fanboys could dish out....
 
A forum member over at rage3d who is pretty well listened to because of his history of being correct on matters concerning Ati hardware under NDA commented that the numbers are'nt high enough for the Pro or the XT, but I guess we shall see soon enough 😉
 
This seems too funny to be true. Seriously, if this were real, I would laugh at Nvidia. Just laugh. LOL
 
Hehe, extrapolation . . . So the NV50 would be somewhere between 20% and 150% faster than the NV40, depending on the application?
 
Extrapolated might be the term used only to cover up an NDA leak, but however, again we will all know soon enough.
 
Hey, do you think ATi will be pulling one of those "let's disable 4 pipelines for the Pro series and sell it as something less powerful" jigs?

I think I saw somewhere that nVidia is pulling that with their non-Ultra version!! I was just wondering about ATi's plans.
 
Originally posted by: ArachPres
Hey, do you think ATi will be pulling one of those "let's disable 4 pipelines for the Pro series and sell it as something less powerful" jigs?

I think I saw somewhere that nVidia is pulling that with their non-Ultra version!!  I was just wondering about ATi's plans.

They will do it like that, so if your lucky enough you may mod it to XT.
 
Originally posted by: Killrose
A forum member over at rage3d who is pretty well listened to because of his history of being correct on matters concerning Ati hardware under NDA commented that the numbers are'nt high enough for the Pro or the XT, but I guess we shall see soon enough 😉


IIRC, Jim Jones was well listened to also.

Hey but who knows. Maybe ArtX will prove to be too much for even nvidia to overcome.
 
haha there is no WAY that's true, the 6800u would never lose at EVERY test. I think i'll wait until a REAL benchmark comes out eh? 😉
 
Let me extrapolate, magnify, and multiply to achieve the ultimate goal of EXAGGERATION -- should be the slogan of this preview.

But even if this was to be true, Nvidia would be in so much trouble. I do realize one company will have to be faster but if it's by this much faster, there is no competition. They are showing a 12 pipeline card at $399 beating a $499 16 pipeline solution. If this proves to be true then Nvidia willl have to release a new GPU like tomorrow..... Lets just wait 2 more days for the real deal. Something tells me not to trust preliminary scores on a forum...*cough*cough* B3D forum's 36000 3dMark01 claims for the NV40.
 
I doubt that these are real... I think I will wait till the R420 is released before I put any thought to this.
 
I know they cannot be used as anything even vaguely indicative, but you cannot say "lets compare the NV50 to NV40 by extrapolating".
The R420 is supposedly based on the R3xx cards, so it does make limited sense to extrapolate figures (looking at core clock/pipeline/mem clock increases), but impossible to do unless you have a linear change or know the curve with which performance chances in relation to clocks/pipelines.

It's not as absurd as looking at NV50 performance by extrapolating NV40 numbers, since we don't know NV50 specs and it probably won't be based on the same core.

Still a pointless exercise though, unless they know something the rest of us doesn't.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
I know they cannot be used as anything even vaguely indicative, but you cannot say "lets compare the NV50 to NV40 by extrapolating".
The R420 is supposedly based on the R3xx cards, so it does make limited sense to extrapolate figures (looking at core clock/pipeline/mem clock increases), but impossible to do unless you have a linear change or know the curve with which performance chances in relation to clocks/pipelines.

It's not as absurd as looking at NV50 performance by extrapolating NV40 numbers, since we don't know NV50 specs and it probably won't be based on the same core.

Still a pointless exercise though, unless they know something the rest of us doesn't.

Ummm, we do know NV40 specs... the NDA was lifted over a week ago. Where's you been? 😀

Only thing we don't know is the exact clock speed they'll be released at.
 
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