R@pe at Astrodome

[Patt]

Originally posted by: bleeb
Anyone catch B.E.T.'s new slogan, "S.O.S. -- (S)aving (O)ur(S)elves" -- I find it ridiculous since the homies/thug lifes are attacking the folks trying to help them.

Have you ever approached a wounded animal, hoping to help? People in desparate situations are no different. Most of the folks here have no idea what it would be like to lose everything, even if you had nothing to begin with. :|

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I thought the title meant "Rope". Why would anyone be opposed to the use of rope in the Astrodome?

I'd recommend using it to hang the next person who tried to rape or shoot a relief worker! Hell, this IS Texas after all... that's probably still legal there

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
In a way I feel sorry for the law abiding residents of Texas that are being forced to absorb many of these refugees, many of which will have difficulty finding jobs and integrating in. In no way shape or form am I saying a different solution exists, or that race has anything to do with it. It has a lot more to do with socio-economic status. A lot of these people had difficulty finding jobs back in New Orleans, imagine how hard it will be for them in a foreign city with little to no support. Odds are they won?t be going back to NO to rebuild and the people of Houston will have to carry the burden of employment and a higher crime rate.

It isn't because they find it difficult to find a job. Just an easy job that they want. Anyone can work at a fast food restaurant, or bus tables, clean pools, or janitor (BTW I did 3 of these things in college, but I also have better paying jobs for internships because of my education, so it is a two way street). It is the fact that many in this socio-economic level have become too dependant on federal aid, and are too lazy now to help themselves. Why would someone getting a minimum wage job, when they can do nothing and get about half that amount for doing nothing? Most of my friends parents and my own parents worked extremely hard to become successful in America. Many came with one piece of luggage and nothing else. The only way to get out of the poverty line is to work hard. Pisses me off.

Listen, I can get flamed for this, but part of the problem is our damned culture of hip hop and urban hatred. These poor people get nothing in return for supporting the BS "urban" culture, which serves one purpose only- To keep bringing in the bling bling for the privaleged few.

This disaster has had me thinking a lot about the gap between the rich and the poor in this country. One thing has become clear to me. We have to stop supporting negative influences in our society that promote hatred, rape, gangbanging and laziness. It is time to make everyone accountable for their actions and it should start by changing the culture of dependance. This disaster really opened my eyes, it is a travesty to see people living in the US like it was a 3rd world country.

 

[Slick5150]

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

 

[shud]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
In a way I feel sorry for the law abiding residents of Texas that are being forced to absorb many of these refugees, many of which will have difficulty finding jobs and integrating in. In no way shape or form am I saying a different solution exists, or that race has anything to do with it. It has a lot more to do with socio-economic status. A lot of these people had difficulty finding jobs back in New Orleans, imagine how hard it will be for them in a foreign city with little to no support. Odds are they won?t be going back to NO to rebuild and the people of Houston will have to carry the burden of employment and a higher crime rate.

It isn't because they find it difficult to find a job. Just an easy job that they want. Anyone can work at a fast food restaurant, or bus tables, clean pools, or janitor (BTW I did 3 of these things in college, but I also have better paying jobs for internships because of my education, so it is a two way street). It is the fact that many in this socio-economic level have become too dependant on federal aid, and are too lazy now to help themselves. Why would someone getting a minimum wage job, when they can do nothing and get about half that amount for doing nothing? Most of my friends parents and my own parents worked extremely hard to become successful in America. Many came with one piece of luggage and nothing else. The only way to get out of the poverty line is to work hard. Pisses me off.

QFT. You can always get a job. Complain that the jobs ON THE MARKET suck. Don't complain that the job market sucks. The cafeterias on campus are always hiring new people. You can work fast food. These people just don't want to do these jobs.

 

[gigapet]

what did you expect? People are still animals.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: Patt

Originally posted by: bleeb
Anyone catch B.E.T.'s new slogan, "S.O.S. -- (S)aving (O)ur(S)elves" -- I find it ridiculous since the homies/thug lifes are attacking the folks trying to help them.

Have you ever approached a wounded animal, hoping to help? People in desparate situations are no different. Most of the folks here have no idea what it would be like to lose everything, even if you had nothing to begin with. :|

well... if I see a helicopter with supplies coming in, I certainly wouldn't shoot at it.... and I assume that these people are smarter than a wounded animal to know that these folks are trying to HELP them.

There is a bigger underlying issue here...

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I bet there are fewer rapes in NO in the wake of the hurricane than there were in NO prior to it.

edit: and as a rule I NEVER believe a story that begins ' I have a friend who knows some who SWEARS this happened'

This isn't fake. :|
You can check the local Houston news for 'alleged rape' at Astrodome. I figured the news just doesn't want a backlash, so they aren't putting too much media on it, but it is on the news. The local drugstore was a CVS pharmacy in the Kirby district, and the two women were local physiologist from the Baylor and UT Medical Schools.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

as of 9/6/05 6:14AM

 

[DaShen]

I think they are putting little coverage on it because it would cause a backlash, whihc hisn't something they need. It was on the news last night BTW, it just wasn't broadcasted as highly as the emergency. 90% of the people of still just families. It is the 10% that cause the problems.

The refugees still need assistance.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
In a way I feel sorry for the law abiding residents of Texas that are being forced to absorb many of these refugees, many of which will have difficulty finding jobs and integrating in. In no way shape or form am I saying a different solution exists, or that race has anything to do with it. It has a lot more to do with socio-economic status. A lot of these people had difficulty finding jobs back in New Orleans, imagine how hard it will be for them in a foreign city with little to no support. Odds are they won?t be going back to NO to rebuild and the people of Houston will have to carry the burden of employment and a higher crime rate.

It isn't because they find it difficult to find a job. Just an easy job that they want. Anyone can work at a fast food restaurant, or bus tables, clean pools, or janitor (BTW I did 3 of these things in college, but I also have better paying jobs for internships because of my education, so it is a two way street). It is the fact that many in this socio-economic level have become too dependant on federal aid, and are too lazy now to help themselves. Why would someone getting a minimum wage job, when they can do nothing and get about half that amount for doing nothing? Most of my friends parents and my own parents worked extremely hard to become successful in America. Many came with one piece of luggage and nothing else. The only way to get out of the poverty line is to work hard. Pisses me off.

Listen, I can get flamed for this, but part of the problem is our damned culture of hip hop and urban hatred. These poor people get nothing in return for supporting the BS "urban" culture, which serves one purpose only- To keep bringing in the bling bling for the privaleged few.

This disaster has had me thinking a lot about the gap between the rich and the poor in this country. One thing has become clear to me. We have to stop supporting negative influences in our society that promote hatred, rape, gangbanging and laziness. It is time to make everyone accountable for their actions and it should start by changing the culture of dependance. This disaster really opened my eyes, it is a travesty to see people living in the US like it was a 3rd world country.

If they got jobs they wouldn't be living like they were in a 3rd world country.


Tom

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I think they are putting little coverage on it because it would cause a backlash, whihc hisn't something they need. It was on the news last night BTW, it just wasn't broadcasted as highly as the emergency. 90% of the people of still just families. It is the 10% that cause the problems.

The refugees still need assistance.

The problem is you're stating your presumptions as fact. No reputable news source is discussing any kind of crime wave in Houston, nor rapes, nor anything else. And I'm much more inclined to believe the news than you're friend of a friend of a friend.

And what you're doing isn't helping anybody, it's making things worse for these people.

 

[Rogue]

Where are the rappers massive donations of funds for these people? They foster and support their lifestyle. I'd like to see them ante up millions of dollars to help these people live a better life than they had before. It's a chance to start over as much as it is a tragedy of losing everything.

 

[Spoooon]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I think they are putting little coverage on it because it would cause a backlash, whihc hisn't something they need. It was on the news last night BTW, it just wasn't broadcasted as highly as the emergency. 90% of the people of still just families. It is the 10% that cause the problems.

The refugees still need assistance.

If this actually happened, it would be all over the news. Period. If there were reports of rape at the Astrodome, the only thing that would happen is that people would call for increased security. People wouldn't stop donating or stop caring or whatever. People still cared despite reports of armed gangs, rapes, looting, etc. in New Orleans. The only "backlash" would be against whoever is in charge of security in the Astrodome.

 

[Sam334]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Listen, I can get flamed for this, but part of the problem is our damned culture of hip hop and urban hatred. These poor people get nothing in return for supporting the BS "urban" culture, which serves one purpose only- To keep bringing in the bling bling for the privaleged few.

This disaster has had me thinking a lot about the gap between the rich and the poor in this country. One thing has become clear to me. We have to stop supporting negative influences in our society that promote hatred, rape, gangbanging and laziness. It is time to make everyone accountable for their actions and it should start by changing the culture of dependance. This disaster really opened my eyes, it is a travesty to see people living in the US like it was a 3rd world country.

Absolutely. It's unfortunate, however, that these "poor" people can't behave like human fvcking beings with a conscience. I mean, I'm pretty poor, but I wouldn't fvcking rape and pillage as soon as the police got out of town. You have all these poor black people thinking they need to "get back at society" (quote from a looter asked why he was looting) because society has been against them? AGAINST THEM? WTF. How about you don't take a fvcking gun to school and LEAN FOR A GODDAMN CHANGE! Instead of trying to prove you're the alpha male, get an education and a job. Society isn't out to get you. You're poor and fvcked cause you did it to yourself (or your parents did it to themselves so you now have them to thank).

 

[DaShen]

I am not saying that people should stop helping, it just makes me mad that this stuff is still happening. I am going to be extra careful, not let any of my friends who are girls go out alone when we help out. But yes, I am ranting. It is just that it makes me so mad.

The news called it alleged rape BTW.

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: Rogue
Where are the rappers massive donations of funds for these people? They foster and support their lifestyle. I'd like to see them ante up millions of dollars to help these people live a better life than they had before. It's a chance to start over as much as it is a tragedy of losing everything.

:beer:

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Spoooon

Originally posted by: DaShen
I think they are putting little coverage on it because it would cause a backlash, whihc hisn't something they need. It was on the news last night BTW, it just wasn't broadcasted as highly as the emergency. 90% of the people of still just families. It is the 10% that cause the problems.

The refugees still need assistance.

If this actually happened, it would be all over the news. Period. If there were reports of rape at the Astrodome, the only thing that would happen is that people would call for increased security. People wouldn't stop donating or stop caring or whatever. People still cared despite reports of armed gangs, rapes, looting, etc. in New Orleans. The only "backlash" would be against whoever is in charge of security in the Astrodome.

Have you even gone to the Astrodome in the past week? I will tell you right now that because of the increase in crime, the security has jumped within the past few days. There isn't a apartment complex or neighboring area that isn't covered by security and police. All the entrances are covered 24-7 by police now. The City of Houston is already asking FEMA if they will be reimbersed for the increased security.

 

[astrosfan90]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

Phew. Until I saw this post I thought I was the only one who actually read that.

According to my local morning newspaper, there are 100 uniformed police officers literally patrolling the Astrodome day and night to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening. And give the fact that this is a load of BS and none of this has actually happened, I'd say they're doing a good job.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

QFT This whole situation just proves how judgemental people really are.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: astrosfan90

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

Phew. Until I saw this post I thought I was the only one who actually read that.

Same here.

Originally posted by: Skiguy411

Originally posted by: Rogue
Where are the rappers massive donations of funds for these people? They foster and support their lifestyle. I'd like to see them ante up millions of dollars to help these people live a better life than they had before. It's a chance to start over as much as it is a tragedy of losing everything.

:beer:

Might want to do a quick search on what Master P, No Limit and Cash Money are doing.

 

[Hammer]

when i first read the title i thought it meant "rope at the astrodome". rape isn't a banned word.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Spoooon
False

One e-mail circulating refers to someone being raped inside the Astrodome.

Harris County spokesman Gloria Roemer said the Command Center has not received any reports of sexual assaults at the dome.

False

Another common e-mail says that carjackings, lootings and vandalism have occurred in the Astrodome area.

The Houston Police Department said it has not received more than the usual calls from that area.

Possibly True

Another e-mail warns that convicts were included with the Superdome evacuees.

Roemer said the Command Center was told 100 prisoners might be among those evacuated.

The Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office said it heard that inmates from the New Orleans city jail were the ones released, which would mean they were serving time on misdemeanor and not felony charges.


source

come on, don't you know poor black people always rape and loot everything, this story is just more liberal media wash against Bush. just check out Foxnews and the republican web site, they know :roll:

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: astrosfan90

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

Phew. Until I saw this post I thought I was the only one who actually read that.

According to my local morning newspaper, there are 100 uniformed police officers literally patrolling the Astrodome day and night to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening. And give the fact that this is a load of BS and none of this has actually happened, I'd say they're doing a good job.

until i hear for certain, i'm going to assume that these are nothing more than rumours. my girlfriend and i were working at the astrodome and reliant arena over the weekend. my girlfriend is a clinical pharmacist, and worked in the clinic.

i can attest that there is a huge police presence at the site, as well as hundreds of volunteers. families brought their children to volunteer, and it felt like a pretty controlled environment.

as stated earlier, all major news sites (click2houston (channel 2), khou (channel 11), an ktrh (channel 13), and the houston chronicle) are all reporting that the rumours of rapes adn assaults are nothing more than rumours.

i know a lot of people at the baylor college of medicine, and i will check with them to verify. classes are small, and everyone knows each other - something like this would sperad like wildfire. i'll report back if i find out.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene

Originally posted by: astrosfan90

Originally posted by: Slick5150

I like how everyone just ignores the fact that the OP's original statement was false (according to news reports, as someone pointed out above) and just labels all of these people as scum.

Sure, there may be some bad people in there, but most of them are just people who have lost everything and have nowhere else to go.

Phew. Until I saw this post I thought I was the only one who actually read that.

According to my local morning newspaper, there are 100 uniformed police officers literally patrolling the Astrodome day and night to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening. And give the fact that this is a load of BS and none of this has actually happened, I'd say they're doing a good job.

until i hear for certain, i'm going to assume that these are nothing more than rumours. my girlfriend and i were working at the astrodome and reliant arena over the weekend. my girlfriend is a clinical pharmacist, and worked in the clinic.

i can attest that there is a huge police presence at the site, as well as hundreds of volunteers. families brought their children to volunteer, and it felt like a pretty controlled environment.

as stated earlier, all major news sites (click2houston (channel 2), khou (channel 11), an ktrh (channel 13), and the houston chronicle) are all reporting that the rumours of rapes adn assaults are nothing more than rumours.

i know a lot of people at the baylor college of medicine, and i will check with them to verify. classes are small, and everyone knows each other - something like this would sperad like wildfire. i'll report back if i find out.

...got quiet in here all of a sudden...
:roll: