shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
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I dont care. They make shit and charge too much.
Nothing special about them except they dont haggle. That combined with the steep prices is a sure way to not get customers.
I went to go for a test drive at my local Saturn about 6 months ago. The salesman was so unimpressive I didnt even turn the engine on. Just looked around and walked away. Even he knew it wasnt worth talking up.
The Nissan and Toyota dealers were much better. They knew every little thing about their cars and the vehicles themselves were a much better deal for the money.
Nothing special about them except they dont haggle. That combined with the steep prices is a sure way to not get customers.
I went to go for a test drive at my local Saturn about 6 months ago. The salesman was so unimpressive I didnt even turn the engine on. Just looked around and walked away. Even he knew it wasnt worth talking up.
The Nissan and Toyota dealers were much better. They knew every little thing about their cars and the vehicles themselves were a much better deal for the money.
Head gasket was a different problem.
The engine just naturally consumed oil from the seals and design. Not bad though, my SL2 eats a quart every month or 2, and she still gets ~35 mpg. Paid $1100 for it and she already earned her cost in gas saved from driving my PT every day.
eplebnista
Lifer
- Dec 3, 2001
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DivideBYZero
Lifer
- May 18, 2001
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FuzzyDunlop
Diamond Member
- Jan 30, 2008
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I love my Ion 2 Quad-Coupe.
Sigh, Saturn made some of the best GM vehicles. I think their recent move to try and seem more premium and adding ~3500 to all the small car price tags was a major factor in cutting their sales recently.
The Ion for example was built on the same platform as the Cobalt/Cavalier but with some improvements /interior changes and styling (like the quad coupe with its v-pillar mods) that people liked. So what do they do? Cut the Ion, introduce the Astra/Aura to try and raise Saturns "Image".
Sigh, Saturn made some of the best GM vehicles. I think their recent move to try and seem more premium and adding ~3500 to all the small car price tags was a major factor in cutting their sales recently.
The Ion for example was built on the same platform as the Cobalt/Cavalier but with some improvements /interior changes and styling (like the quad coupe with its v-pillar mods) that people liked. So what do they do? Cut the Ion, introduce the Astra/Aura to try and raise Saturns "Image".
Freejack2
Diamond Member
- Dec 31, 2000
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My family was a Honda family for a long time but then Saturn came along and they won me over. Had a 95 SL1, 98 SC2, and the last was an 01 SL2. In 2001 I took a Honda Civic for a test drive and the Saturn SL2. The Saturn was equal or better in everything. That DOHC engine was only 124hp but that thing had torque. I drove the 01 SL2 for almost 8 years until I got into an accident in an ice storm in January.
Mind you once the car got over about 130,000 miles it started to have problems and having to replace the transmission didn't leave me thrilled. On the other hand I had an 89 civic and that thing was horrible. Every time I turned around it needed to be repaired.
Still even after the problems I had with it I would have gone back to Saturn and bought another Saturn. Only one problem, there was no fucking Saturn anymore. It was now rebadged Opels. No independent company with cars made in Spring Hill, TN. It was just a GM division selling their rebadged european cars. No thank you.
I don't think GM realized that Saturns success was because people saw it as a company mostly independent from GM. A company that made cars that were as reliable as a Honda or a Toyota and didn't have the reliability stigmatism that GM made cars had. In short GM killed Saturn years ago.
Mind you once the car got over about 130,000 miles it started to have problems and having to replace the transmission didn't leave me thrilled. On the other hand I had an 89 civic and that thing was horrible. Every time I turned around it needed to be repaired.
Still even after the problems I had with it I would have gone back to Saturn and bought another Saturn. Only one problem, there was no fucking Saturn anymore. It was now rebadged Opels. No independent company with cars made in Spring Hill, TN. It was just a GM division selling their rebadged european cars. No thank you.
I don't think GM realized that Saturns success was because people saw it as a company mostly independent from GM. A company that made cars that were as reliable as a Honda or a Toyota and didn't have the reliability stigmatism that GM made cars had. In short GM killed Saturn years ago.
Pish, I know of no catalytic converter problems with the S-series cars. Perhaps the cat fails when I cross 300k, yep shame on saturn for making that unreliable a car.
Exactly, I love my reliable, American made Saturn. What is this BS where they rebadge their Euro models and try to claim Saturn is cutting edge?
I just like a decent car at a decent price.
Bibble
Golden Member
- Feb 20, 2006
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I drove a 2000 Saturn LS1 from spring 2005 through this past summer. I traded it in with 185k miles on it and the only problem it had was that the cruise control was broken. Of course, it did not have anti-lock breaks or any fancy side airbags but it did it's job well, and even survived me slipping off the road last December. I lovingly called it my Saturn POS.
waffleironhead
Diamond Member
- Aug 10, 2005
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This was not intentionally designed that way. Show me any car that does not consume oil as the engine reaches higher miles. When the 1.9L reaches highers miles,(150k or so) it starts to consume some oil. In my case, after an oil change I can drive for about 2000 miles with no oil burn, then after around that point I am adding about 1/4 quart every gas fill up. So I can either continue to add some more each fill up or just do an oil change. Very livable circumstance imo. I'm sitting at 180k with no signs of slowing down. In my opinion the 1.9L motor was great, and reliable.
FelixDeCat
Lifer
- Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
They made mechanically good cars, but their styling was terrible until the last few years. The Sky is on my "want to own someday" list
On a side note, that commercial they were running where that guy said "We make cars people want to buy!" made the company sound like a whiny loser. If you are---why aren't people buying them?
Why on earth (haha, planets, pun, get it
) would you want a Sky? Have you seen how inexpensive you can get a nice used Honda S2000 for? The Sky is marginal at best as far as it being a roadster.
waffleironhead
Diamond Member
- Aug 10, 2005
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