Yea!! Fvck grammar proper who use they stupid me talk how want I they see they dumb in end say I!! Fools be they?Isay?!!?!?!yES it is TRUE I SAY CAPS aRe to BE USED randomly fOR IAM THE CREATOR of puNCtuation LaW. What is the point of proper grammar and punctuation?
Originally posted by: mugs
Delays the closing of the sentence? Do you read character by character?
Ha.. no, I just find the natural flow of writing is better kept when the period is kept in a stable spot and not sometimes floating outside the end of a sentence. It is very important for a sentence to close immediately when reading, and I feel that punctuation after the quote leaves a gap, however tiny, in the closing of a sentence. Even the tiniest gap has a bad effect and that is why I agree with the current rules.
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
- 48,920
- 46
- 91
Originally posted by: Tuktuk
Originally posted by: mugs
Delays the closing of the sentence? Do you read character by character?
Ha.. no, I just find the natural flow of writing is better kept when the period is kept in a stable spot and not sometimes floating outside the end of a sentence. It is very important for a sentence to close immediately when reading, and I feel that punctuation after the quote leaves a gap, however tiny, in the closing of a sentence. Even the tiniest gap has a bad effect and that is why I agree with the current rules.
I think you're a little anal.
FWIW, my reasoning for thinking it's more logical to put it outside the quotes is because the quotes make whatever is inside the quotes a single entity, and unless that entity is a complete sentence it shouldn't have a period at the end. Not to mention that putting the punctuation inside the quotes can change what you're quoting, i.e.: My password is "banana." But my password is "banana" without the period.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Tuktuk
Originally posted by: mugs
Delays the closing of the sentence? Do you read character by character?
Ha.. no, I just find the natural flow of writing is better kept when the period is kept in a stable spot and not sometimes floating outside the end of a sentence. It is very important for a sentence to close immediately when reading, and I feel that punctuation after the quote leaves a gap, however tiny, in the closing of a sentence. Even the tiniest gap has a bad effect and that is why I agree with the current rules.
I think you're a little anal.
FWIW, my reasoning for thinking it's more logical to put it outside the quotes is because the quotes make whatever is inside the quotes a single entity, and unless that entity is a complete sentence it shouldn't have a period at the end. Not to mention that putting the punctuation inside the quotes can change what you're quoting, i.e.: My password is "banana." But my password is "banana" without the period.
You can generally make mild changes to quoted material without having to indicate that you've done so (such as changing the first letter of a quoted phrase from capital to lowercase and vice-versa, changing ending punctuation, etc.)
If you'd written the sentence you originally used as an example (i.e., my password is "banana."), it would be assumed that your password was "banana" and that the period was ending the sentence. If your password also included a period, the correct way to write the sentence would be "my password is 'banana..'"
Generally, the punctuation is included inside the parenthesis (in the US). There are some exceptions, such as if you're going to cite a source at the end of the quotation (i.e., "Pretend I'm saying something worthy of a citation" (Marks & Smith, 1995).)
Periods and commas are always included inside the quotation marks (except, as stated, when followed by a citation). Colons and semi-colons are placed outside the quotation marks. Question marks and exclamation points are placed inside the quotation marks when a part of the originally-quoted material, and outside the quotation marks if applying to the sentence as a whole.
If you need more info, go here
Finally, and this is just something I'm anal about now because my Freshman English teacher drilled it into my brain, the proper term is quotation. The word quote is a verb, and should only be used as such.
- Dec 5, 2000
- 43,804
- 46
- 91
Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Tuktuk
Originally posted by: mugs
Delays the closing of the sentence? Do you read character by character?
Ha.. no, I just find the natural flow of writing is better kept when the period is kept in a stable spot and not sometimes floating outside the end of a sentence. It is very important for a sentence to close immediately when reading, and I feel that punctuation after the quote leaves a gap, however tiny, in the closing of a sentence. Even the tiniest gap has a bad effect and that is why I agree with the current rules.
I think you're a little anal.
FWIW, my reasoning for thinking it's more logical to put it outside the quotes is because the quotes make whatever is inside the quotes a single entity, and unless that entity is a complete sentence it shouldn't have a period at the end. Not to mention that putting the punctuation inside the quotes can change what you're quoting, i.e.: My password is "banana." But my password is "banana" without the period.
You can generally make mild changes to quoted material without having to indicate that you've done so (such as changing the first letter of a quoted phrase from capital to lowercase and vice-versa, changing ending punctuation, etc.)
If you'd written the sentence you originally used as an example (i.e., my password is "banana."), it would be assumed that your password was "banana" and that the period was ending the sentence. If your password also included a period, the correct way to write the sentence would be "my password is 'banana..'"
Generally, the punctuation is included inside the parenthesis (in the US). There are some exceptions, such as if you're going to cite a source at the end of the quotation (i.e., "Pretend I'm saying something worthy of a citation" (Marks & Smith, 1995).)
Periods and commas are always included inside the quotation marks (except, as stated, when followed by a citation). Colons and semi-colons are placed outside the quotation marks. Question marks and exclamation points are placed inside the quotation marks when a part of the originally-quoted material, and outside the quotation marks if applying to the sentence as a whole.
If you need more info, go here
Finally, and this is just something I'm anal about now because my Freshman English teacher drilled it into my brain, the proper term is quotation. The word quote is a verb, and should only be used as such.
WTF are you talking about (see bolded part)???? thats completely retarded. I would take it that "banana.." was your password if i read that. In that case, it should say My password is "banana".
It looks like it depends on what and how the words in the quotes are used.
meltdown75
Lifer
- Nov 17, 2004
- 37,548
- 7
- 81
Sh!t SonOriginally posted by: RichUK
Tut tut, yet another example of Americans butchering the English language.
The full stop (or period) in this case ends the entire sentence; therefore the full stop is placed outside of the quotations.
RichUK
Lifer
- Feb 14, 2005
- 10,341
- 678
- 126
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Sh!t SonOriginally posted by: RichUK
Tut tut, yet another example of Americans butchering the English language.
The full stop (or period) in this case ends the entire sentence; therefore the full stop is placed outside of the quotations.
Why hello thar Melty. Howzit?
It goes inside the quotes otherwise you will confuse the complier. I really don't see how anyone could be confused on this.
Aikouka
Lifer
- Nov 27, 2001
- 30,383
- 912
- 126
Originally posted by: RichUK
Tut tut, yet another example of Americans butchering the English language.
The full stop (or period) in this case ends the entire sentence; therefore the full stop is placed outside of the quotations.
Because you actually pronounce the end-quote, huh?
Oh and punctuation typically goes outside of parenthesis if the parenthesis are used in a sentence.
Semi-colons and colons don't go inside quotes.
If I don't see a period after the quote, then I'll think the next word after the end quote is continuing the thought.
Period after end of sentence please, not end quote :roll:
RichUK
Lifer
- Feb 14, 2005
- 10,341
- 678
- 126
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: RichUK
Tut tut, yet another example of Americans butchering the English language.
The full stop (or period) in this case ends the entire sentence; therefore the full stop is placed outside of the quotations.
Because you actually pronounce the end-quote, huh?
Oh and punctuation typically goes outside of parenthesis if the parenthesis are used in a sentence.
Semi-colons and colons don't go inside quotes.
So what?s your point?
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 24K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter