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Quiet 80mm fan that pushes 28cfm or more

lamga

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I have an AthlonXP 1700+ with the retail AMD HSF (a CoolerMaster something or the other with a Delta 28cfm/38dBA). I would like to get a nice 80mm fan that will pump more than 28cfm but stay in the low 30 dBA range.

I've tried Panaflo L1As, but they weren't strong enough. I just recently tried a Thermaltake 37cfm that claims to be 30dBA, but is definitely lying, because it's louder than the Delta.

So, from personal experiences, what can you guys recommend? I'm considering the Sunon 30cfm/28dBA, but am not sure how accurate the specs are. I've heard good things about Panaflo H1As, but they are over $20 in Canada, so I'm looking for cheaper alternatives. Any help is welcome.
 
Which thermaltake fan did you try? I'm using a Thermaltake TT 8025A-2B 80mm fan and it's rated at 37cfm and 30dba. I have it on my Ax-7 now and it's real quiet. Nothing near as loud as any delta. Does the job just fine on the ax7.
 
A great fan, often overlooked, is the Nidec BETASL D08T-12PG. The new models have been improved and are still rated at the same 30 dBA at 35 cfm, but sound quieter to my ears. I just put a replacement in my PC P&C Silencer 400 power supply and it is quieter than the original, which started squeaking. I figured just bad luck, I have read servers use Nidec fans because they last longer.
 
Yes those Thermaltake/Everflow fans are very questionable on there specs, there pretty bad fans in my opinion, very high failure rate, tend to vibrate more then they should. I used to sell these its pretty much a luck of the draw if you get a good one or not.

That sunon fan you have specs are correct, id recommend Panaflo H1a or M1a, they work great on heatsinks there own blade design pushes the air at higher pressure. Sanyo Denki F speed and H speed are great too, SD are generaly lower pitched since they use oversized motors/bearings.

Nidecs are good too, you do find em in alot of servers, in commercial equipment like copy machines, plasma screens, Cisco Routers/Switches..alota stuff, they have a lifespan 3-4 times the amount of Panaflo

GiZzO's Fan Database Page
 
blade, I have the exact same Tt fan you have. You must have been lucky, or maybe you have something louder drowning out the noise? I have one L1a in the front, L1A in the back, a Enermax 350w, a Maxtor D740, so everything except the CPU fan is loud.

Gizzo, how much quieter are the H1As? (I can't find M1As or Nidecs here in Canada. 🙁 ) Are they twice as good as the Sunon? 'Cause here, a Sunon is $10 and a Panaflo is $21.
 


<< Gizzo, how much quieter are the H1As? >>



Actually the L1's [Low] are the quiet ones due to lower airflow. The H1's[High] put out more sound and airflow.
Are you sure you have the L1's? I have mine hooked to a PCMods baybus and I cant hear a difference between 12 volt , 9 volt and off.
 
The H1a's are about as loud as the Sunon you currently have the noise thats emited from the Panaflo H1a sounds like moving air, you don't really hear the motor. Is why alot of ppl love this fan cause the noise that comes out is exceptable not a higher pitched motor or bearing whine.

Take a look at my fan page, it might help you alot on finding out what fits you best.
GiZzO's Fan Database Page
 
Keep in mind that the noise from the motor and the noise from case airflow are two entirely different things. The dBA ratings on fans account for only the noise of the fan itself (i.e. the motor), and not the noise of airflow through the case. That's why you can measure the noise of a PC with a 40dB fan (even if its the only fan in the case)...and the actual noise level is much much higher. The case, case material, and case airflow design all impact the level of noise you hear as the result of airflow.

Be sure to use rubber grommets on all fans. The noise from a fan motor can resonate through your case, increasing perceived noise level by a signficant amount beyond that rated for the fan alone; this can be particularly bad/noticeable with aluminum cases. Rubber grommets serve to reduce/eliminate this issue. This applies to the heatsink as well; I found that using a L1A 80mm fan on an AX7 heatsink without the rubber grommets produced at least twice as much noise (to my ears) as the same fan mounted with the included rubber grommets. I use rubber grommets with the fan in my power supply, my case fans, and the fan on my heatsink.

A case with two L1A 120mm fans at 5 volts, or four 80mm L1A fans at 7 volts, should be roughly silent when used with rubber grommets, although this will depend in part on your case's material and airflow design. For info on how to 7volt your fans (which I advise for everything except the cpu fan) can be found at www.7volts.com.

> I've tried Panaflo L1As, but they weren't strong enough. I just recently tried a
> Thermaltake 37cfm that claims to be 30dBA, but is definitely lying, because it's louder than the Delta.

Other than Papst, the Panflo is about as good as they come as far as noise/CFM. There are other fans that offer comparable or slightly better performance, but I doubt you would notice the difference. And yes, there are a number of vendors that advertise superior noise levels and airflow to the Panaflos, but they generally don't deliver. Panaflo is relatively conservative (or honest?) in their claims, whereas as few other vendors (like PC Power and Cooling) are not.

If you'd replace your Coolermaster HSF with an Alpha PAL8045, you'd find the 80mm L1A (21dB) to be sufficient to cool your Athlon. The 19dB Papst fan also works well with the PAL8045. Combine that heatsink and fan with a 80mm L1A at 7 volts in your power supply, plus two L1A's at 7 volts in your case (with rubber grommets), and you should find yourself with a very low noise case. Of course, you'll also need to use rubber grommets with your hard drive and replace the active cooling on the Radeon with a large passive heatsink. Should you do all that, you'll probably find the Maxtor D740X to be the main source of noise in your case, which you may decide to replace with a much less noisy Seagate Barracuda IV.
 
28 cfm at low 30 dB(A) with an 80mm? At 30 dB(A), you can find fans that are pushing upwards of 38 cfm+.

The Panaflo H1A is rated at ~32 dB(A) and pushed like 38 cfm of air I think. The Y.S. Tech 80mm fan is rated at ~28 dB and pushes 38 cfm as well.
 
I have a pcpowercooling silencer 80mm fan. I think it was like 27cfm, 20db. (Its actually pretty quite.) Using an alpha8045 on an xp1600+. Temps are around the low 40s idle, mid 40s under load. Temps are ok but I am very satisfied with the noise. Also those thermaltake db ratings are way off (IMO).
 
Thanks for all the great replies!

Yes, I've rubber grommetted all my fans. Like crazy. I am also not fed up enough yet to go buy another HSF. Let's just say that in Canada, this can become a very expensive hobby. I have also have yet to find a Canadian distributor of that YS Tech 38cfm/28dBa fan, or any Papsts (although one catalog for a 40mm Papst listed a $30 CAN price). Gizzo, thanks for your great website, I've been using it since February. But you didn't have the Thermaltake listed there, so I took a chance. 🙁

The CPU fan is mounted on a 60mm to 80mm adapter and is blowing down. The two L1As are running at 12V and are used on the case. These Panaflos are dead quiet. I could 5 volt them, but I figure the case will get too hot and the Enermax PSU will get louder as a result.

I also plan to cut out the stamped fan grills on the case to improve airflow and reduce airflow shearing noise.

But basically, the choice has come down to this: use the Sunon PTB3-6 (30cfm/28dBA) or the Panaflo H1A (38cfm/32dBA)? If they are roughly the same noise, and the Sunon costs 50% less, then Sunon it is.

P.S. One of the Panaflos is simply connected via bare leads to the yellow 12V and black (ground) connectors of a molex. I heard somewhere that an empty 5V(red) rail will cause the yellow rail to run only at 9.5V...is this true? It doesn't make sense, but just curious.
P.P.S. Gizzo, I have three Cisco 2501 routers sitting on my desk at work. If those Nidec fans they're running, then I'm really impressed. I would cut one out, but I'd probably get in trouble. 🙂
 
Panaflo all the way...much much better ratio of cfm/dB(A). Relatively the same amount of noise w/ much less vibration which actually makes it a little quieter too.

30 cfm/28 dB(A)...not that great of a ratio, you can find other fans that put out more cfm with that type of sound.
 
KenAF,

Thanks for that link at 7volts.com
It is exactly the type of thing I was looking for when I came in to read this thread.
 
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