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apoppin

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Originally posted by: chazdraves
I was going to list 1280x960 in the choices, but some games (*cough* Doom3 *cough*) don't support 960 by default, though I'm sure you could tweak a .cfg file or something to make it work...

In response to apoppin's post - I actually have the Samsung 997DF. I like it most of the time, but I find it occassionally lets out a very obnoxious, very high-pitched squeal... (am I the only one that hears it?). That and the fact that the upper left corner seems just a sheer hint "yellow-er" than the rest of the screen... I can't notice in games, but it really shows up on a white document...

As we continue this, would someone care to explain the whole refresh rate vs. frame rate thing? I've never had anyone elaborate that to me, and it sounds interesting... something to do with multiples? Anyhow, thanks for responding! Please keep 'em coming!

- Chaz
i thought you had the newer version of my monitor. ;)

If you have "issues" with your monitor - the "squeal" and yellowed discoloration for part of the screen - it's best to RMA . . . they should be "perfect".


As top the the "whole refresh rate vs. frame rate thing" . . .. the higher your resolution, the more "work" your videocard needs to do . . . . add AA+AF to a 16x12 resolution and you need the latest and greatest video cards (i.e 6800GT and faster) . . . . simply drop the resolution to 10x7 and zero AA/AF and a 9800p will give acceptable FPS in ANY new game. ;)


 

McArra

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Originally posted by: chazdraves
First of all... LCD for gaming? Icky poo.. Sorry...

As far as 120Hz goes... can you even tell the difference past like 85? 72 isn't very noticeable, let alone 120Hz... Maybe it just doesn't bother me to the extent of some...

Oh yeah, and I don't think I could play Doom3 at 1024... it's almost like a disgrace to the game... (and the OC'ed 6800GT...).

Keep it coming, if yah would. I obviously have much to learn yet.

- Chaz

LCDs aren't bad for gaming, at least the ones I have had, (Hyundai Q17 and now BenQ 767-12). No ghosting at all in the last one (and very very little in the first) and very good black colour. I wouldn't return to a CRT by any means.
 

VIAN

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As we continue this, would someone care to explain the whole refresh rate vs. frame rate thing? I've never had anyone elaborate that to me, and it sounds interesting... something to do with multiples?

Refresh rate is how many times the screen refreshes. Thus no matter how hight your fps is, you won't be able to see past the refresh rate. For ex. 60Hz refresh and 90fps. Thos extra 30fps are pretty much wasted because you aren't seeing them, just 60.

Vsync On, locks the fps to the refresh rate. Meaning that your graphics card will not render more than more than the refresh rate and it will show the frame as the refresh of the monitor is happening, then it waits for the next refresh to do the same. This gets rid of tearing in the picture with Vsync Off, but not only is your framerate capped, but it now only displays multiples of your refresh rate. If your graphics card can't draw 60fps, the next number will be 60 / 2 = 30fps. If it can't do that, then it will divide by 3 and so on. So if you're not seeing 60, your seeing 30.

High refresh rates are cool with Vsync On such as 120Hz because you are able to see 60fps, 40fps, and 30fps. Acceptable and each one isn't too distanced from each other, giving you more consistant motion, less noticeable slowdown.

High refresh rates however hurt the resolution that you can display. Like I can only have 120Hz with 1024x768 or below. Higher than that I can only get 100Hz up to 1280x1024. Then it's 85Hz at 1600x1200.

I've read LCDs are less prone to tearing because they display the picture all at once unlike CRTs. In that case Vsync might be better of being off, and now you can advantage of the extra fps. LCDs are also capable of displaying a higher resolution flicker-free picture, as I consider flicker-free 100Hz. Meaning you don't even have to worry about refresh rates, which is good.
 

chazdraves

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Thank you for elaborating on that for me... That was rather as I assumed, but I'm glad to know for sure... Kinda makes an 85Hz refresh rate seem a bit silly... No even multiples anyhow...

- Chaz