quick shower head question

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
What about your sink?

Does the shower have a mixing valve or discrete valves?

Careless fitting could've left something in the pipe that fouled up your mixing valve.

The underlined part is the problem. Those mixing valves have individual set-screws for hot/cold inputs (inlets?) If one is set too low, no matter how much you bias the handle towards hot/cold, you won't get much water from that side. Being that all the piping/valving is new, the culprit kinda jumps out.

Also, newer mixing valves have hot water safety cutoff valves that monitor the temp to prevent scalding. If the threshold (setscrew again) is set too low, same thing happens.

ps
The bimbo in the office is TYPICAL of what you have to deal with when living in an apartment complex. Unfortunately. Been there. Done that. Still doing that. Hating every fucking minute of it.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Now all that's left is a visit from Odin in this thread to complete the train of trolls

I guess you'd consider your landlord a troll too then. You said this though, sounds like you put off even wanted to attempt to swap it...which if you did you wouldn't need this thread.

Originally posted by: dabuddha
She keeps insisting that it's our problem since it's our own shower head and they can't do anything about it while we use that shower head

If you are a renter it's better to go along with what the landlord suggests unless it's a violation to your lease.

Are you kidding me? You're chastising the OP for changing THE SHOWER HEAD? "Better to go along w/what the landlord suggests." Have you ever rented an apartment? 99% of apartment complexes these days don't even want you to HANG A PICTURE b/c it creates nail holes that they have to patch/paint. They want the quickest turnover possible with minimum expense to them.

Making an apartment feel like "your home" involves many things. For me, changing the shower head is the first thing. Apartments always put that tiny, concentrator-head on there that increases the pressure coming out to 150PSI at a single tiny stream. It also has the benefit (for them) of reducing water consumption to 2 gallons/minute.

AS opposed to the WaterPik 12-setting VarioMassage, 180-degree spread, multi-pulsor shower head that I like to use.

Water consumption, aside from the "Greenie Factor" is a non-issue. If the OP is paying for water, how much he uses is his business. If the complex is paying for it, that's why they are getting paid RENT. It's called "The Cost Of Doing Business."

 

[BoomerD]

I can't see how the shower head could possibly affect hot water flow without affecting cold water flow. Sounds to me like the lady is the same moron who answers the phone for our city's water department. Complain about low water pressure and you always get the same canned reply:"Your screens in the faucets are plugged. Clean them out and all will be fine." While I'm sure that's the cause in many cases, you can never get the lady to move past that scripted answer. You finally have to bitch and demand a department supervisor who usually agrees to send someone out.

Could very well be a bad/malfunctioning proportioning valve, from any of several causes.

Once you get your water back on, try removing the shower head completely and see what you get...odds are, it'll be just the same as before.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I can't see how the shower head could possibly affect hot water flow without affecting cold water flow. Sounds to me like the lady is the same moron who answers the phone for our city's water department. Complain about low water pressure and you always get the same canned reply:"Your screens in the faucets are plugged. Clean them out and all will be fine." While I'm sure that's the cause in many cases, you can never get the lady to move past that scripted answer. You finally have to bitch and demand a department supervisor who usually agrees to send someone out.

Could very well be a bad/malfunctioning proportioning valve, from any of several causes.

Once you get your water back on, try removing the shower head completely and see what you get...odds are, it'll be just the same as before.

The deal is when you are renting multiple places you are dealing with 90% of the complains are 'their' problem.

washer and dryer don't work right....because they tried to fit the clothes of 20 people in them....

a/c is not cooling....because they are leaving their windows open.

phone jacks aren't working...because they are trying to use broken phones.

It's too complicated to trust what a tenant has put in in most situations, especially on the lower end.

The request to change back to their showerhead first takes out any variables that the tenant may not be disclosing.

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I can't see how the shower head could possibly affect hot water flow without affecting cold water flow. Sounds to me like the lady is the same moron who answers the phone for our city's water department. Complain about low water pressure and you always get the same canned reply:"Your screens in the faucets are plugged. Clean them out and all will be fine." While I'm sure that's the cause in many cases, you can never get the lady to move past that scripted answer. You finally have to bitch and demand a department supervisor who usually agrees to send someone out.

Could very well be a bad/malfunctioning proportioning valve, from any of several causes.

Once you get your water back on, try removing the shower head completely and see what you get...odds are, it'll be just the same as before.

The deal is when you are renting multiple places you are dealing with 90% of the complains are 'their' problem.

washer and dryer don't work right....because they tried to fit the clothes of 20 people in them....

a/c is not cooling....because they are leaving their windows open.

phone jacks aren't working...because they are trying to use broken phones.

It's too complicated to trust what a tenant has put in in most situations, especially on the lower end.

The request to change back to their showerhead first takes out any variables that the tenant may not be disclosing.

Agree with most of that, but how on earth would a clogged shower head cause the OP's problems? I understand you're a "customer is always wrong" kind of guy, but really? Some common sense would lead you to believe there is no effing way that claim had any merit.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

I still really want head in the shower right about now....

Then again I would be fine with just head out of the shower....

I may have to settle for just sex though

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: marketsons1985

Agree with most of that, but how on earth would a clogged shower head cause the OP's problems? I understand you're a "customer is always wrong" kind of guy, but really? Some common sense would lead you to believe there is no effing way that claim had any merit.

The OP should call them back and tell them the plumber installed drunk nipples in his shower. :laugh:

 

[TestedAcorn]

Yes, it makes so much sense for ONLY hot water to get clogged, but not cold water.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I can't see how the shower head could possibly affect hot water flow without affecting cold water flow. Sounds to me like the lady is the same moron who answers the phone for our city's water department. Complain about low water pressure and you always get the same canned reply:"Your screens in the faucets are plugged. Clean them out and all will be fine." While I'm sure that's the cause in many cases, you can never get the lady to move past that scripted answer. You finally have to bitch and demand a department supervisor who usually agrees to send someone out.

Could very well be a bad/malfunctioning proportioning valve, from any of several causes.

Once you get your water back on, try removing the shower head completely and see what you get...odds are, it'll be just the same as before.

The deal is when you are renting multiple places you are dealing with 90% of the complains are 'their' problem.

washer and dryer don't work right....because they tried to fit the clothes of 20 people in them....

a/c is not cooling....because they are leaving their windows open.

phone jacks aren't working...because they are trying to use broken phones.

It's too complicated to trust what a tenant has put in in most situations, especially on the lower end.

The request to change back to their showerhead first takes out any variables that the tenant may not be disclosing.

Troll post is full of troll.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Agree with most of that, but how on earth would a clogged shower head cause the OP's problems? I understand you're a "customer is always wrong" kind of guy, but really? Some common sense would lead you to believe there is no effing way that claim had any merit.

Never said he was wrong about it...I said the best way for the least time and effort in a fucking rental situation is to do what the landlord would like to see as long as it's not a violation of the lease/laws.

In this case a simple showerhead change would have solved a ton of drama.

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Agree with most of that, but how on earth would a clogged shower head cause the OP's problems? I understand you're a "customer is always wrong" kind of guy, but really? Some common sense would lead you to believe there is no effing way that claim had any merit.

Never said he was wrong about it...I said the best way for the least time and effort in a fucking rental situation is to do what the landlord would like to see as long as it's not a violation of the lease/laws.

In this case a simple showerhead change would have solved a ton of drama.

Scenario: Power is out in apartment

Alkemyst's solution: Call landlord. Landlord says "change your rugs. It's something to do with your rugs." Listen to landlord and completely redo rugs.
:shocked:

Riiiiight. Just listen to the landlord even when it makes no sense.

 

[elmer92413]

The easiest solution to all this, dealing with people who tell you to something stupid? Just tell them you already did it, play along. Works for all tech/help/whatever calls. It's true that they get all kinds of stupid people calling, but it's also true that they pretty much follow the same script. And when you just play along things go much smoother. I do this all the time when I have to call Comcast or ATT or Dell or whoever. They go through the basic stuff (restarting the PC, router, modem, ect) and I wouldn't be calling if it was that simple! So I just go ya, yep doing that or already did that. I worked at for an IT dept that had all Dell stuff with the Gold Service thing. Whenever we had a laptop that we knew was dead, we called up and gave them a specific error code. They always sent out a new one right away and didn't make us go through all their "tech support." Saved us a lot of time not having to do things we already did before we called.

 

[dabuddha]

As expected, original shower head didn't fix crap Can't wait till they open up at 10AM so I can bitch out those morons. I can give tons of examples of how incompetent these guys are but I'll just give one for now.

Back in August, we had an issue where our washing machine would make this horribly loud rattling noise whenever it'd run. It took almost 5 phone calls and a week before those morons sent someone out. Without even checking it out, they told my wife, it's our fault because we don't empty out our pockets. Of course my wife got pissed because she always does check the pockets and regardless of that, it still doesn't solve the washing machine sounding like a machine gun problem. So they swap out the washing machine with another one and the new one makes the exact same noise. So they blame us again and show us a rusty bra underwire they claim they pulled out of the first machine. My wife's bras don't even have underwires which we told them. Well it turns out the problem was the plastic "tray" they have sitting underneath the washing machine. A piece of it was broken and bent upwards which was why both washing machines were making the noise.

Instead of trying to logically think of what the problem could be, they blamed us initially. Took them over 3 weeks to get it figured out and trust me, if they had actually listened to that noise, theres no way it could have been made by loose change or an bra wire

If anyone cares, I've got a nice long 4 pager post at www.aptratings.com

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: marketsons1985

Scenario: Power is out in apartment

Alkemyst's solution: Call landlord. Landlord says "change your rugs. It's something to do with your rugs." Listen to landlord and completely redo rugs.
:shocked:

Riiiiight. Just listen to the landlord even when it makes no sense.

uh no.

It's more like your welfare blender keeps tripping fuses yet you instead because your mom bought with from a salvation army just three days ago, it can't be the blender.

Re-wire my apartment.

Think about it...I would say management offices get calls everyday on stupid stuff in any $1000/bedroom or less place due to these dregs just wanting handouts and some drama in their lives since they can't afford more than basic cable unless they are stealing it.

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: marketsons1985

Scenario: Power is out in apartment

Alkemyst's solution: Call landlord. Landlord says "change your rugs. It's something to do with your rugs." Listen to landlord and completely redo rugs.
:shocked:

Riiiiight. Just listen to the landlord even when it makes no sense.

uh no.

It's more like your welfare blender keeps tripping fuses yet you instead because your mom bought with from a salvation army just three days ago, it can't be the blender.

Re-wire my apartment.

Think about it...I would say management offices get calls everyday on stupid stuff in any $1000/bedroom or less place due to these dregs just wanting handouts and some drama in their lives since they can't afford more than basic cable unless they are stealing it.

Except that example makes sense. OP's management does not.

Again, I know you hate on the "dregs" but logic has to play a role somewhere.

You < teh logic.

 

[alkemyst]

the logic is most renting in a cheaper dwelling are retards. Why waste time reinventing the wheel each time?

If the tenant can't get off their ass enough to put back the original showerhead so that you can send your other retard the maintenance man over to verify....then the problem must be not that important.

So logically I wouldn't have to worry further.

 

[Juked07]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
the logic is most renting in a cheaper dwelling are retards. Why waste time reinventing the wheel each time?

If the tenant can't get off their ass enough to put back the original showerhead so that you can send your other retard the maintenance man over to verify....then the problem must be not that important.

So logically I wouldn't have to worry further.

It sounds like you're saying that because in the majority of cases, the tenants are at fault, the landlord's response is logical, and the one that you would take. The effect of taking this route would be that in a large number of cases, you have to spend less effort in dealing with problems that are not really problems. In a smaller number of situations, however, the "blame the tenant" route is far less efficient, because there is an actual problem which needs to be dealt with within the landlord's responsibility.

The OP has demonstrated that in his specific case, the landlord's route was a poor solution to a complaint which is clearly an actual problem. This puts his case in the minority of cases from your/the landlord's standpoint.

There's no real contradiction here, you either choose not to understand that you're not comparing apples to apples, or you just seem to like attempting to put people down on the internet.

 

[alkemyst]

It's exactly what I am saying. People here only have a different view because they may know the OP from his posts here or due to the effect of most here just seem to go along with anything posted no matter how absurd.

If anything it was me being attempted to be put down because I simply did not wholeheartedly again and comiserate with the OP.

if the OP was smart he'd have took the time to just replace the damn showerhead, had them look at it and them leverage his cooperation into a better position for support and possibly money off rent due to inconvenience. R&R of a showerhead just to show as an example should take less than 2 minutes. Far less time that it took to post that original complaint.

Instead he was acting hostile and uncooperative as if he owned the place.

I have rented in the past, and it's amazing the attitude these people have on what they are entitled too.

 

[dabuddha]

Update in the OP

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Update in the OP

I think the problem lies in the OP is getting too much head in the shower and making all of the hot water go away.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Update in the OP

I think the problem lies in the OP is getting too much head in the shower and making all of the hot water go away.

:beer::beer:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dabuddha
EDIT (10/07/2008): Well, I called them up to chew her out and she still tried to say it was our shower head that messed up the hot water ( ). So I told her to have it fixed by this afternoon or they will be putting us up in a hotel. My wife says 2 people came out (one from the construction crew that's doing the plumbing work and the other from "maintenance"). I wasn't too clear what the wife said (will find out more tonight) but she said they found some metal something or another stuck in the pipe that's supplying the hot water to the shower.

So they've fixed the hot water problem but the geniuses installed the shower control upside down lol. So I'm going to have to call them again to get them to fix it (which will prolly take a week or so)

Thanks again all (non moronic trolls) for the info/tips!

damn you still didn't replace the showerhead up to this...

I am sure you made them jump, lolz; you have been how many days without proper water? ahahah you showed them

 

[Turin39789]

alkemyst, you're my new favorite troll

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: dabuddha
EDIT (10/07/2008): Well, I called them up to chew her out and she still tried to say it was our shower head that messed up the hot water ( ). So I told her to have it fixed by this afternoon or they will be putting us up in a hotel. My wife says 2 people came out (one from the construction crew that's doing the plumbing work and the other from "maintenance"). I wasn't too clear what the wife said (will find out more tonight) but she said they found some metal something or another stuck in the pipe that's supplying the hot water to the shower.

So they've fixed the hot water problem but the geniuses installed the shower control upside down lol. So I'm going to have to call them again to get them to fix it (which will prolly take a week or so)

Thanks again all (non moronic trolls) for the info/tips!

damn you still didn't replace the showerhead up to this...

I am sure you made them jump, lolz; you have been how many days without proper water? ahahah you showed them

Apparently reading skillz > you too!

Originally posted by: dabuddha
EDIT: Tried the shower out last night with the original shower head and of course, still no hot water. Can't wait till those retards open up at 10AM

yoo are smrt alky.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

messing with the pipes could have sent debris to your shower valve, where the hot and cold mix before going out of the shower head. that debris could be causing low flow through that valve

i am not a plumber, but looked into this stuff when i was having flow issues at my kitchen sink