quick question: what are the three supercars that Ford is rolling out this year?

[andylawcc]

GT40: 5.4L supercharged mid-engine rear drive

Shelby Mustang Cobra: same S/C 5.4L, front engine, rear drive.

now, I can't remember that last one, it has the same engine from the GT40 plus the same mid-engine chassis.... what the hell is that model???

 

[MasterAndCommander]

This one? (Ford Shelby GR1) I think it's only a concept car:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2005-Ford-Shelby-GR1-Concept-Aluminum-Body.htm

 

[DougK62]

The Ford GT is the only thing you could classify as a "supercar".

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: DougK62
The Ford GT is the only thing you could classify as a "supercar".

I was just thinking the Shelby probably doesn't qualify.

 

[gscone]

Exactly. Any Ford product is not deserving of "supercar status".

(Let the flames begin)...Yawn..

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: gscone
Exactly. Any Ford product is not deserving of "supercar status".

(Let the flames begin)...Yawn..

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won another Grand-AM race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

That's 2 out of 3 for the year...and came in 2nd and 3rd in the one they didn't win.

 

[gscone]

[/quote]

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:[/quote]

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's? Perhaps they did not even qualify.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:[/quote]

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?



[/quote]

I dunno about no rustang at Leman's...just that my live-axle rear from the stone age kicks butt.

IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's

 

[gscone]

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?



[/quote]


IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's [/quote]


Our conversation will just end up going back and forth, then lead us to sH7t on each other.....

BTW- i'd take the Ferrari over any "supercar" Ford anyday of the week...LOL!

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?

IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's [/quote]


Our conversation will just end up going back and forth, then lead us to sH7t on each other.....

BTW- i'd take the Ferrari over any "supercar" Ford anyday of the week...LOL![/quote]


Me too if your paying for it :thumbsup:

I can't dis Ferrari (I'm half-Italian )....just have a Ford budget :laugh:

 

[gscone]

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?

IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's

Our conversation will just end up going back and forth, then lead us to sH7t on each other.....

BTW- i'd take the Ferrari over any "supercar" Ford anyday of the week...LOL![/quote]


Me too if your paying for it :thumbsup:

I can't dis Ferrari (I'm half-Italian )....just have a Ford budget :laugh:[/quote]

BTW- You never answered my question on how them Rustang's performed at Lemans..

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DougK62
The Ford GT is the only thing you could classify as a "supercar".

I was just thinking the Shelby probably doesn't qualify.

Aye. A true Supercar exudes a sense of aerodynamic fvckability that only few precious vehicles atain, the GT40 and the GT being included, and the Shelby well, not.

The Shelby would indeed provide me with a great time on the race track, but make no mistake, the Ford GT is the one that would require an entire roll of Bounty for cleanup afterwords....

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?

IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's

Our conversation will just end up going back and forth, then lead us to sH7t on each other.....

BTW- i'd take the Ferrari over any "supercar" Ford anyday of the week...LOL!

Me too if your paying for it :thumbsup:

I can't dis Ferrari (I'm half-Italian )....just have a Ford budget :laugh:[/quote]

BTW- You never answered my question on how them Rustang's performed at Lemans..



[/quote]



They are undefeated.....'cause they probably never raced there :laugh:

Have they? The Ford GT40 is the only car I ever heard about going to LeMan's The only other American one I know of is the Saleen S7.

 

[gscone]

[/quote]



They are undefeated.....'cause they probably never raced there :laugh:

Have they? The Ford GT40 is the only car I ever heard about going to LeMan's The only other one I know of is the Saleen S7.[/quote]


The GT40 was an amazing car for its time.

The Saleen S7 is not a Rustang. Get your facts straight...:disgust:

 

[StageLeft]

The concept car above is stunning.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: gscone

They are undefeated.....'cause they probably never raced there :laugh:

Have they? The Ford GT40 is the only car I ever heard about going to LeMan's The only other one I know of is the Saleen S7.[/quote]


The GT40 was an amazing car for its time.

The Saleen S7 is not a Rustang. Get your facts straight...:disgust:
[/quote]


I meant 'American' car you import-lovin whore.

 

[gscone]

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

They are undefeated.....'cause they probably never raced there :laugh:

Have they? The Ford GT40 is the only car I ever heard about going to LeMan's The only other one I know of is the Saleen S7.

The GT40 was an amazing car for its time.

The Saleen S7 is not a Rustang. Get your facts straight...:disgust:
[/quote]


I meant 'American' car you import-lovin whore.[/quote]


The only person being whored in this thread is you. Get your facts straight...LMAO!!!

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

They are undefeated.....'cause they probably never raced there :laugh:

Have they? The Ford GT40 is the only car I ever heard about going to LeMan's The only other one I know of is the Saleen S7.

The GT40 was an amazing car for its time.

The Saleen S7 is not a Rustang. Get your facts straight...:disgust:

I meant 'American' car you import-lovin whore.[/quote]


The only person being whored in this thread is you. Get your facts straight...LMAO!!!
[/quote]

Well, if you are speaking about American cars, I believe the Chevy Corvette has some minor accomplishments at LeMans to speak of

 

[DougK62]

Get your fvcking quotes straight, dumbasses.

 

[gscone]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Get your fvcking quotes straight, dumbasses.

Thanks for contributing....next....

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: gscone

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's?

IIRC...the Ford Cobra's whipped Ferrari's asses back in the late 60's [/quote]


Our conversation will just end up going back and forth, then lead us to sH7t on each other.....

BTW- i'd take the Ferrari over any "supercar" Ford anyday of the week...LOL![/quote]

hmmm...id actually take a Ford GT over a Ferrari 360m. but the Ferrari 430...who can ever turn down that sexy beast!!

 

[Horus]

Originally posted by: gscone

yup........



did I mention that the '05 stang won Grand-Am another race this past weekend and handed the IRS-based BMW's and Porsche's their asses again? :thumbsup:[/quote]

And how does the Rustang fair at the 24 hour of LeMan's? Perhaps they did not even qualify. [/quote]

Probably got their asses handed to them by Jap cars...along with the Euros.

I seriously don't get the love affair that everyone on this forum has with Eurotrashmobiles...I mean, BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz have HORRIBLE reliability!

Goes back all the way to world war two...the germans made flashy, big tanks, but they sucked the big bucket against the behemoth, crudely constructed beasts of the Russians or the smaller, less armored, yet way, way more versatile and reliable American tanks.

Ferdinand Porsche? He designed the Panther and Tiger tanks. In a quote from Kelly's Heroes, "It's a piece of junk!" His cars still are pieces of junk up to this day.

Just because a car is FAST, doesn't mean it's not reliable. Look at Skylines, RX7 and RX8s, Supras, NSX...brutally fast cars that will ACTUALLY KEEP WORKING after a few months on the road.

I don't know if you saw that episode of TopGear where Clarkson bought the used Porsche for 2000 bucks. It was like ten years old, and it died after 20 minutes on the road. Whereas people drive RX-7's from 1993 and before, which are sometimes TWIN turboed, putting quite a bit of stress on the engine, and they still drive reliably!

 

[andylawcc]

dude, I asked a relatively straightforward question and this is what I got? One real reply, one reply about the real reply, the rest are anti-domestic/euro/american flame fest?

hey, this is ATOT alright


anyway, so the Shelby Mustang has NOTHING to do with that Shelby concept? (mechanically speaking)

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
GT40: 5.4L supercharged mid-engine rear drive

Shelby Mustang Cobra: same S/C 5.4L, front engine, rear drive.

now, I can't remember that last one, it has the same engine from the GT40 plus the same mid-engine chassis.... what the hell is that model???

Ok first off - it's not called the GT40. It's the Ford GT.

Second - the Shelby Mustang Cobra has a 5.4L engine, but it's not the same engine. The GT has a brand new all aluminum 5.4 block. The Shelby has a cast iron 5.4 originally found in the 2000 Mustang Cobra R, which it shares some parts (GT heads, few others I seem to have forgotten) with the GT.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
anyway, so the Shelby Mustang has NOTHING to do with that Shelby concept? (mechanically speaking)

Correct. The GR-1 is a different platform. There was a V10 in the Shelby concept from the Detroit auto show in 2004 (that nobody seemed to like). I'm not sure if that same V10 will go into the GR-1.