Quick question about schooling

[Lonyo]

Here in the UK, most people do music lessons and drama lessons at school, and they have to do IT as well.
AFAIK, these are necessary (at least, they were in my school). I don't know if the US is the same.
Now, drama and music are both recreational things, which are in many ways not useful, unless you plan on linking them to future career ideas, but surely the same could be said of computer games?
Why in schools do we not learn about games and gaming (omputer or otherwise), as surely this is similar to sports, drama and music lessons?
If we do all the other stuff, why the hell not?

Cliffs: Why not learn games (computer/board) in schools?
We learn music/drama/sports etc.

I'm not crazy

 

[kami333]

I learned how to play Oregon Trail at school, does that count?

 

[Schadenfreude]

Music and drama is so that you'd have a better understanding/appreciation of the arts, and the culture surrounding it. Granted, GTA:San Andreas is fun, but I don't quite think that it has the same effect.

 

[BigJ]

Quite simply because I believe you get more of a benefit from music/drama/sports then you would computer or board games.

EDIT: I'll elaborate. Music and Drama help one gain an appreciation for art and culture, with Drama also helping to develop social skills, imagination, and other skills (improv., dance, and creativity was emphasized in the drama class I took in HS).

Sports help to develop physical aptitude, social skills, reflexes, etc.

Video games may help develop reaction time and quick thinking, but is not nearly as valuable a learning and growing tool as the three you listed. Also I fail to see how sports could not equal or surpass video games in areas developing hand-eye coordination, reaction time, quick thinking, etc. There's such a variety of sports that do a number of things for a person.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Oh, and one more thing - I'm guessing you don't learn about current music in your music class, nor one of the high-concept abstract (read: weird) theatre pieces in drama class either?

 

[Kipper]

Doom 3 != Shakespeare

I'm appalled you made the equivocation.

 

[GasX]

Alas poor Freeman, I knew him, Horatio...

 

[Babbles]

I think most kids these days play enough video games at home, I highly doubt they need to do so at school as well.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: Babbles
I think most kids these days play enough video games at home, I highly doubt they need to do so at school as well.

Methinks the man just wants some justtification for his addiction to videogames . . ..

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Jehovah

Originally posted by: Babbles
I think most kids these days play enough video games at home, I highly doubt they need to do so at school as well.

Methinks the man just wants some justtification for his addiction to videogames . . ..

And as far as discussing video games in class, that's what a 100 or 200 level college Popular Culture class is for. HS is not meant to be fun!

 

[GasX]

It used to be students studies the classics like Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.

Then schools started condensing culture into a single field trip to something like Broadway's - Donkey Show.

Then schools gave up and turned a blind eye when kids walked the halls talking about Donkey Punching their English teacher.

In the future, when things come full circle, they'll be teaching Donkey Kong as a classic

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Here in the UK, most people do music lessons and drama lessons at school, and they have to do IT as well.
AFAIK, these are necessary (at least, they were in my school). I don't know if the US is the same.
Now, drama and music are both recreational things, which are in many ways not useful, unless you plan on linking them to future career ideas, but surely the same could be said of computer games?
Why in schools do we not learn about games and gaming (omputer or otherwise), as surely this is similar to sports, drama and music lessons?
If we do all the other stuff, why the hell not?

Cliffs: Why not learn games (computer/board) in schools?
We learn music/drama/sports etc.

I'm not crazy

Others can benefit from good music, art, acting you can produce, but not from getting owned by you in a game since you're a schooled pro heh.

EDIT: Also, obviously kids are going to play games anyhow. They're not likely to pursue music/drama on their own.

 

[Monkey muppet]

Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

In my HS you were allowed to take electives that would certify you to be a lifeguard (and in doing so, CPR certification).

IMHO morality should not be taught in HS. Logical thinking is taught in mathematics classes and english classes (to an extent).

 

[Monkey muppet]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

In my HS you were allowed to take electives that would certify you to be a lifeguard (and in doing so, CPR certification).

IMHO morality should not be taught in HS. Logical thinking is taught in mathematics classes and english classes (to an extent).

I was beening very generic and talking about schooling from 4-18yrs.

If you can teach morality to a child then would they not grow up to be a better person??

Logical thinking - as in common sence, repercussions of actions and the like

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

and apparently they aren't teaching grammer too well in your schools either...

 

[Monkey muppet]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

and apparently they aren't teaching grammer too well in your schools either...

What's with the F'ing grammar police????

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

and apparently they aren't teaching grammer too well in your schools either...

Grammer?
At least he has better spelling than you , even if the grammar sucks

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
and apparently they aren't teaching grammer too well in your schools either...

Oh blessed irony, thy name is purbeast0!

 

[Monkey muppet]

I would like some-one to point out the grammatical mistakes:

I just re-read my post to find only three spelling mistakes; I also ran it through three separate grammar checking programs to find nothing wrong.

I could re-word the third paragraph to roll of the tongue a bit easier; Possibly enter a few commas instead of entering "and".

The forth paragraph: I admit - no punctuation entered at all (however all that was required is one comer and one full stop).

Now will everyone get off their high horse, stop diverting the OP's question and get back on topic

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
I would like some-one to point out the grammatical mistakes:

I just re-read my post to find only three spelling mistakes; I also ran it through three separate grammar checking programs to find nothing wrong.

I could re-word the third paragraph to roll of the tongue a bit easier; Possibly enter a few commas instead of entering "and".

The forth paragraph: I admit - no punctuation entered at all (however all that was required is one comer and one full stop).

Now will everyone get off their high horse, stop diverting the OP's question and get back on topic

One obvious mistake is that your first sentence....is not a sentence!

Just playing Devil's Advocate.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Uk'er here as well

I've noticed that even though Drama, Art, Music etc is taught within schools.

Certain life skills like: First aid, logical thinking, morality, etc; are not taught.

My brother is only 13 and his school has noticed his computer skills and he takes an extended class on HTML coding and Java Scripting (albiet it is a private school).

Where as I got expelled for putting Red Hat 6 on a stand alone because it ran the business analistist software faster than Win95 (the PC never got turned off and no-one would've noticed untill I told the teacher that what I did - I thought I was using the school resources to full affect).

In my HS you were allowed to take electives that would certify you to be a lifeguard (and in doing so, CPR certification).

IMHO morality should not be taught in HS. Logical thinking is taught in mathematics classes and english classes (to an extent).

I was beening very generic and talking about schooling from 4-18yrs.

If you can teach morality to a child then would they not grow up to be a better person??

Logical thinking - as in common sence, repercussions of actions and the like

People who can't learn common sense...well it's called the Darwin Award.

And whose morals should we teach to a child? Mine? Yours? Unless you're talking about very BASIC morals as in not killing an innocent person, raping a person, etc.

 

[Monkey muppet]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
I would like some-one to point out the grammatical mistakes:

I just re-read my post to find only three spelling mistakes; I also ran it through three separate grammar checking programs to find nothing wrong.

I could re-word the third paragraph to roll of the tongue a bit easier; Possibly enter a few commas instead of entering "and".

The forth paragraph: I admit - no punctuation entered at all (however all that was required is one comer and one full stop).

Now will everyone get off their high horse, stop diverting the OP's question and get back on topic

One obvious mistake is that your first sentence....is not a sentence!

Just playing Devil's Advocate.

and playing it well. You almost had me posting a reply......oh...wait a minute

 

[Monkey muppet]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Here in the UK, most people do music lessons and drama lessons at school, and they have to do IT as well.
AFAIK, these are necessary (at least, they were in my school). I don't know if the US is the same.
Now, drama and music are both recreational things, which are in many ways not useful, unless you plan on linking them to future career ideas, but surely the same could be said of computer games?
Why in schools do we not learn about games and gaming (omputer or otherwise), as surely this is similar to sports, drama and music lessons?
If we do all the other stuff, why the hell not?

Cliffs: Why not learn games (computer/board) in schools?
We learn music/drama/sports etc.

I'm not crazy

I'm going to try and steer this topic back into the right general direction.If anyone wants to point out my grammar, spelling, etc. Then they can just go and (edited).

Logical thinking - Cluedo??
Common sence, repercussions, etc - MTG

During lunch time at my old school (when it was crappy outside) my tutor used to get us involved in playing Mensa games - very educational