Quick Matrix question...

[Lawrencetan21]

To Trinity ofcourse. She got him in check. Can't go flying around like a maniac without asking the mistress first.

 

[TheAudit]

He called his dealer to see if his new sunglasses came in yet.

 

[bleeb]

The Matrix has Joo!

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: CFster
I've seen a lot of bestsellers that were a complete waste of time.

You're a retard. Please stop posting before you hurt yourself

 

[emb09]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: jobberd

The real reason his powers took a step backward is that there would have been no drama if Neo didn't even have to fight anymore. Invulnerable people make bad heroes.

i agree. this is why steven seagal (sp?) movies suck(ed).

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: jobberd

Originally posted by: CFster
I've seen a lot of bestsellers that were a complete waste of time.

You're a retard. Please stop posting before you hurt yourself

What did he say that deserved such an uncalled for remark?

 

[poopaskoopa]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: jobberd
Answer me this: why the hell is Neo so weak in the second movie? it was obvious from the first that he had completely broken the boundaries of the matrix. he could now move as fast as he wanted to, hit as hard as he wanted to, and read/mess around with the code to his will's content. skip forward to the second movie, and all of a sudden being the one is nothing more than a speed/strength upgrade, along with a few quirks like being able to fly and pull sh*t towards you. based on what was told in the original Matrix, it shouldnt matter how strong the agents are, or how many of them there are. he is not limited by the rules of the system, so he shouldnt have a problem with anything. Yet an agent blocks his punch, he has trouble with the Smiths, and takes his sweet ass time defeating the merovingian's guards. Hell, he even gets cut by a weapon. NONE of that makes sense in context to the first movie. Anyone care to explain?

Woodchuck, you should have known from the beginning that there's no such thing as a "quick" matrix question.

Same problem I had. They simply explained it away by saying the new agents were upgrades. That shouldn't have mattered since Neo could see the code and twist it to his liking. Agent Smith was partially justified, since he could also screw with the code ever since Neo passed through him or whatever.

The real reason his powers took a step backward is that there would have been no drama if Neo didn't even have to fight anymore. Invulnerable people make bad heroes.

Well, I don't think he took a step backward. He did kick everyone's ass without much struggle. The real reason he's not "Da Man", I assume, is that he's not supposed to be "Da Man". The One deal is just an upgrade over others in the matrix, to run the script within the matrix(to weed out the red-pill crowd). Hence all the references to The Ones in the past. So he's just another guy in the matrix, but his character has god & no clipping mode turned on. So he's faster and stronger by design, but he's still bound by rules of the matrix.

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: Growltiger

What did he say that deserved such an uncalled for remark?

It's the fact that he can't grasp simple english, for a start

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa

Well, I don't think he took a step backward. He did kick everyone's ass without much struggle. The real reason he's not "Da Man", I assume, is that he's not supposed to be "Da Man". The One deal is just an upgrade over others in the matrix, to run the script within the matrix(to weed out the red-pill crowd). Hence all the references to The Ones in the past. So he's just another guy in the matrix, but his character has god & no clipping mode turned on. So he's faster and stronger by design, but he's still bound by rules of the matrix.

That's fine and all and would work great on its own, but it completely dismisses everything that was said in the first movie. Quote: "...yet their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be. "

 

[NeoV]

one thing that I think is mis-interpreted is the EMP supposedly set off by Smith aka Bane - why would he do that? Why didn't the sentinel machines kill him too? I think he triggered his own EMP, just like Neo did, to save his ass before the machines got to him....

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: NeoV
one thing that I think is mis-interpreted is the EMP supposedly set off by Smith aka Bane - why would he do that?

He did it because he hates humans, or at least wants the destruction of Zion to occur. Or maybe it's his master plan to get to Neo

Why didn't the sentinel machines kill him too?

That, no one knows yet. Maybe the machines could sense him and spared his life, although considering the damage he's doing inside the Matrix, I doubt they'd be too happy with him. Not to mention the giant machine we see in the revolutions trailer wants neo to stop smith

I think he triggered his own EMP, just like Neo did, to save his ass before the machines got to him....

That's actually pretty interesting, as it would explain why he was in a coma and why the sentinels didn't kill him. However, if that were the case, they'd have seen the sentinels lying right by the wreckage.

 

[jobberd]

bump

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: jobberd

Originally posted by: NeoV
one thing that I think is mis-interpreted is the EMP supposedly set off by Smith aka Bane - why would he do that?

He did it because he hates humans, or at least wants the destruction of Zion to occur. Or maybe it's his master plan to get to Neo

Why didn't the sentinel machines kill him too?

That, no one knows yet. Maybe the machines could sense him and spared his life, although considering the damage he's doing inside the Matrix, I doubt they'd be too happy with him. Not to mention the giant machine we see in the revolutions trailer wants neo to stop smith

I think he triggered his own EMP, just like Neo did, to save his ass before the machines got to him....

That's actually pretty interesting, as it would explain why he was in a coma and why the sentinels didn't kill him. However, if that were the case, they'd have seen the sentinels lying right by the wreckage.

Very interesting indeed.

 

[UCSDHappyAsian]

ewll.. i dont think whom Neo is talkin to has anything important to do with the film.... its there cause the producer wanted us to know that NEO is still recruiting members and fighting strong in the Matrix.......

2nd film gets a little too messy... i think...
i love matrix... but i think starwar is doin a better job on the story line....
matrix gets a little too crazy and it squezzed too much info at us at once......

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
ewll.. i dont think whom Neo is talkin to has anything important to do with the film.... its there cause the producer wanted us to know that NEO is still recruiting members and fighting strong in the Matrix.......

2nd film gets a little too messy... i think...
i love matrix... but i think starwar is doin a better job on the story line....
matrix gets a little too crazy and it squezzed too much info at us at once......

yeah, the first one had a pretty nice balance of story/action and such, this one i got confused!

 

[CFster]

It's the fact that he can't grasp simple english, for a start

Is that the best you can come up with? Care to elaborate? I said that I've "seen" a lot of books on the bestseller's list that are a complete waste of time. Meaning, I'm not stupid enough to read them. The fact is, simply being on the bestseller's list does not make it a literary masterpeice. And, because something is popular, doesn't necessarily make it "good".

Somebody said, "people are stupid, a person is smart". This is proved every week when wrestling is on TV and it has the highest ratings for it's time slot.

The Matrix is a children's action flick, plain and simple. You people are overanalyzing it, and the guy who wrote that piece of crap book is out to make a buck, because he knows there are plenty of kids out there who will buy it.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: CFster

It's the fact that he can't grasp simple english, for a start

Is that the best you can come up with? Care to elaborate? I said that I've "seen" a lot of books on the bestseller's list that are a complete waste of time. Meaning, I'm not stupid enough to read them. The fact is, simply being on the bestseller's list does not make it a literary masterpeice. And, because something is popular, doesn't necessarily make it "good".

Somebody said, "people are stupid, a person is smart". This is proved every week when wrestling is on TV and it has the highest ratings for it's time slot.

The Matrix is a children's action flick, plain and simple. You people are overanalyzing it, and the guy who wrote that piece of crap book is out to make a buck, because he knows there are plenty of kids out there who will buy it.

I'll agree with your first paragraph that simply being on a bestseller's list does not make a book a literary masterpiece, and something being popular doesn't make it good. But who are you, one person, to judge what is good and what is bad? You judge based solely on your opinions, which makes your judgement flawed from the get-go.

Your second paragraph is ignorant. Your saying is proved because people watch wrestling? Yes, there are undoubtfully some stupid-ass people out there who watch wrestling, but I think the stereotype on wrestling fans is way out of hand. And before you ask, no, I do not watch wrestling, and can't sit through 5 minutes without getting bored.

In your third paragraph, I'll agree that people overanalyze these movies, but that's the beauty of it. When was the last movie you remember that sparked so much discussion without anger and hatred? It's healthy for the fans and critics alike, and it's a good thing.

 

[Mingon]

On a different topic(ish) who's completed the matrix game? If you havent its worth finishing it as niobe just to see persephone (sp) kissing niobe - (as well as ghost, and neo in the matrix 2)

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: CFster


Is that the best you can come up with? Care to elaborate? I said that I've "seen" a lot of books on the bestseller's list that are a complete waste of time. Meaning, I'm not stupid enough to read them. The fact is, simply being on the bestseller's list does not make it a literary masterpeice. And, because something is popular, doesn't necessarily make it "good".

Somebody said, "people are stupid, a person is smart". This is proved every week when wrestling is on TV and it has the highest ratings for it's time slot.

The Matrix is a children's action flick, plain and simple. You people are overanalyzing it, and the guy who wrote that piece of crap book is out to make a buck, because he knows there are plenty of kids out there who will buy it.

"Hurrrr, what do you mean I don't understand english?"
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CFster and Growltiger I'm sure the man is doing plenty of worthwhile things with his money now that he's rich from writing bestselling novels about movies that he enjoyed. So I wouldn't criticize him if i were you
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Uh huh. He isn't writing literary criticism here, he's writing a book report about a kung fu movie. The fact that his books are popular doesn't mean they're good - don't make that mistake. There's a big freekin difference.

Let's step back and take a look shall we?"

Point out to me where exactly we started talking about the actual quality of his book? Because all I was talking about was that it was not a waste of time for him to write it. So either you're a troll, or you're a retard who can't grasp basic english.

"I never said they were necessarily good or bad, only that it obviously wasn't a waste of time for him to write all that, since I'm sure it netted him a lot of money. Theres a big freakin' difference, no?
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I've seen a lot of bestsellers that were a complete waste of time. "

That's funny, when were we talking about if YOU thought it was a waste of time for YOU? Dumbass

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: jobberd

Originally posted by: CFster


Is that the best you can come up with? Care to elaborate? I said that I've "seen" a lot of books on the bestseller's list that are a complete waste of time. Meaning, I'm not stupid enough to read them. The fact is, simply being on the bestseller's list does not make it a literary masterpeice. And, because something is popular, doesn't necessarily make it "good".

Somebody said, "people are stupid, a person is smart". This is proved every week when wrestling is on TV and it has the highest ratings for it's time slot.

The Matrix is a children's action flick, plain and simple. You people are overanalyzing it, and the guy who wrote that piece of crap book is out to make a buck, because he knows there are plenty of kids out there who will buy it.

"Hurrrr, what do you mean I don't understand english?"
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CFster and Growltiger I'm sure the man is doing plenty of worthwhile things with his money now that he's rich from writing bestselling novels about movies that he enjoyed. So I wouldn't criticize him if i were you
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Uh huh. He isn't writing literary criticism here, he's writing a book report about a kung fu movie. The fact that his books are popular doesn't mean they're good - don't make that mistake. There's a big freekin difference.

Let's step back and take a look shall we?"

Point out to me where exactly we started talking about the actual quality of his book? Because all I was talking about was that it was not a waste of time for him to write it. So either you're a troll, or you're a retard who can't grasp basic english.

"I never said they were necessarily good or bad, only that it obviously wasn't a waste of time for him to write all that, since I'm sure it netted him a lot of money. Theres a big freakin' difference, no?
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I've seen a lot of bestsellers that were a complete waste of time. "

That's funny, when were we talking about if YOU thought it was a waste of time for YOU? Dumbass

Well, you can certainly step off your high horse any time now. You both differ in opinion, so what's the big deal?

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: Growltiger
Well, you can certainly step off your high horse any time now. You both differ in opinion, so what's the big deal?

Can no one fu*king read on these forums? It's not about differing of opinions, I don't give a sh*t if he thinks the matrix is a child's kung fu movie. The problem here is not being able to logically and chronologically follow an argument without going off into your own world and argue your retarded points that no one was discussing anyways while completely ignoring the discussion at hand.

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: jobberd
Can no one fu*king read on these forums? It's not about differing of opinions, I don't give a sh*t if he thinks the matrix is a child's kung fu movie. The problem here is not being able to logically and chronologically follow an argument without going off into your own world and argue your retarded points that no one was discussing anyways while completely ignoring the discussion at hand.

Oh, well that clears it up

 

[Jew4Life]

I think he was talking to that "kid" in the second movie. "Mr popper" in the animatrix.

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: Growltiger

Oh, well that clears it up

OH SHI YOU USED THE ROLLEYES THAT TOTALLY DESTRYOED MY ARGUEMNT!!!11
STFU, get his cock out of your mouth, and let him defend himself. He doesn't need someone even stupider than he is arguing for him

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: jobberd

Originally posted by: Growltiger

Oh, well that clears it up

OH SHI YOU USED THE ROLLEYES THAT TOTALLY DESTRYOED MY ARGUEMNT!!!11
STFU, get his cock out of your mouth, and let him defend himself. He doesn't need someone even stupider than he is arguing for him

Way to take the high road. Obviously nothing is to be gained by perpetuating this "arguement" (as you claim) any longer, especially when you can't express yourself in a civilized manner. It's unfortunate that a few posts in a thread would elicit such a lowbrow and unneccesary response. Nevertheless, you "win" the "arguement." Go ahead and get the last word in so your life can now be complete and we can all move on. :beer:

I apologize to others for my part in helping shift the topic of this thread.