Quick Matrix question...

[MegaloManiaK]

I would assume he called a random number to talk to the agents.

Like in the begining of the movie when they had tapped the phone with trinity and were listening in.

Neo: 480 0234
Old Lady: Hello
Neo: We're stronger, we're going to beat your ass
Old Lady: Wha? Im calling the cops young man
Neo: Don't try to stop us, blah blah blah

Then he flew off because johnny law was going to throw him in the pokey.

 

[Xionide]

I just popped it in to my dvd drive and my thought is that he picked up the phone and figured that the machines where listening since they have a tap on EVERYTHING in the matrix. He was just sending the machines a message. He wasnt talking to anyone in particular.

-Xionide

 

[jobberd]

Its the same people(agents) that tapped the phone conversation between cypher and trinity, only this time neo screws around with their scanning equipment. thats why its shot in the same manner as the beginning of the movie.
now, SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION

 

[silent tone]

Originally posted by: jobberd
anyone? anyone?

Well, I don't think Neo is going to jump inside another avatar again. Just look what happened to agent smith. Neo seemed to have incredible speed during the final scene of matrix I. You could say he still has this speed in Matrix II, the flow of time for the camera is just accelerated so we can watch a fight scene instead of a blur.

It's my understanding that he doesn't have the ability to throw all the physics laws of the virtual world out the window, he just can access commands other humans lack the ability to. So, he can change properties like mass, and transfer potential & kinetic energy into forms that help him punch hard or fly. He certainly doesn't have ~infinite strength.

 

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[ReiAyanami]

he just can access commands other humans lack the ability to. So, he can change properties like mass, and transfer potential & kinetic energy into forms that help him punch hard or fly. He certainly doesn't have ~infinite strength.

so basically he overclocks...


or maybe he's running on linux
he just can access commands other humans lack the ability to.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: istallion
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Oh man, I can promise you that the creators of this movie didn't go half as far as this guy did.

Talk about over analyzing something...

It's just a movie.

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: istallion
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<Keanu> Whoa </Keanu>

That is way too much text for me to even consider reading. Someone has too much time on his hands.

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: istallion

Originally posted by: jobberd
anyone? anyone?

Well, I don't think Neo is going to jump inside another avatar again. Just look what happened to agent smith. Neo seemed to have incredible speed during the final scene of matrix I. You could say he still has this speed in Matrix II, the flow of time for the camera is just accelerated so we can watch a fight scene instead of a blur.

It's my understanding that he doesn't have the ability to throw all the physics laws of the virtual world out the window, he just can access commands other humans lack the ability to. So, he can change properties like mass, and transfer potential & kinetic energy into forms that help him punch hard or fly. He certainly doesn't have ~infinite strength.

Meh, that would seem to make sense. Only that it contradicts everything we learn about the one from the first movie. that's what is supposed to be so amazing about him; the rules don't apply to him. He can do whatever he wants. Which is why he causes 'anomalies in even the most simplistic of equations'. Think of it as a game genie. It doesn't matter how hard the boss is supposed to be, because you can change the settings around to give you every advantage.

As for the website, thanks for the link But it's still just the theory of one person, and the Wachowski brothers have already denied the rumour of Zion simply being a matrix outside of a matrix. Not to mention that he takes the movie too literally. He backs up his argument about bullet time by saying that the Agent couldn't dodge the bullet when Trinity said 'dodge this' because it wasn't in his peripheral vision, when most likely the line was just added for dramatic effect. Still, very interesting link. thanks

CFster and Growltiger I'm sure the man is doing plenty of worthwhile things with his money now that he's rich from writing bestselling novels about movies that he enjoyed. So I wouldn't criticize him if i were you

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Growltiger

Originally posted by: istallion
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<Keanu> Whoa </Keanu>

That is way too much text for me to even consider reading. Someone has too much time on his hands.

i'm sure it will entertain me at work tomorrow

 

[silent tone]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: istallion
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Oh man, I can promise you that the creators of this movie didn't go half as far as this guy did.

Talk about over analyzing something...

It's just a movie.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've read essays paralleling the matrix to Christianity, Hinduism, Gnosticism, psychology, & Greek mythology. I see new interpretations, & details I've missed so often, that it seems the wachowski's put a lot of effort into a consistent story.

 

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Originally posted by: jobberdAs for the website, thanks for the link But it's still just the theory of one person, and the Wachowski brothers have already denied the rumour of Zion simply being a matrix outside of a matrix. Not to mention that he takes the movie too literally. He backs up his argument about bullet time by saying that the Agent couldn't dodge the bullet when Trinity said 'dodge this' because it wasn't in his peripheral vision, when most likely the line was just added for dramatic effect. Still, very interesting link. thanks

CFster and Growltiger I'm sure the man is doing plenty of worthwhile things with his money now that he's rich from writing bestselling novels about movies that he enjoyed. So I wouldn't criticize him if i were you

I also don't agree with the 2 matrix theory, the only compelling evidence is the reference to "simulation & simulacra". I like it for the veracity in the technical descriptions. Both in this one and the article he wrote after Matrix I. It feels like I'm back in my Discrete Structures class, listening to Dr. Kearny teach set theory & combinatorics.

The author must have some street cred to get published on Kurzweil's site.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: istallion

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: istallion
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Oh man, I can promise you that the creators of this movie didn't go half as far as this guy did.

Talk about over analyzing something...

It's just a movie.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've read essays paralleling the matrix to Christianity, Hinduism, Gnosticism, psychology, & Greek mythology. I see new interpretations, & details I've missed so often, that it seems the wachowski's put a lot of effort into a consistent story.

The moment we start comparing Neo to Jesus is when I stop watching. That scene when he comes off the elevator and all the Zion folk are there waiting with food and gifts is when I said to myself, "oh, come on...".

Then again, maybe it just has something to do with who the actor is.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: istallion
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Oh man, I can promise you that the creators of this movie didn't go half as far as this guy did.

Talk about over analyzing something...

It's just a movie.

That guy has a PhD in overanalysis! :Q

 

[CFster]

CFster and Growltiger I'm sure the man is doing plenty of worthwhile things with his money now that he's rich from writing bestselling novels about movies that he enjoyed. So I wouldn't criticize him if i were you

Uh huh. He isn't writing literary criticism here, he's writing a book report about a kung fu movie. The fact that his books are popular doesn't mean they're good - don't make that mistake. There's a big freekin difference.

Let's step back and take a look shall we?

 

[silent tone]

Yeah, there were several Jesus references in the first film. Keanu in any love/romance scene with trinity makes me hit the fast-forward button.

 

[MegaloManiaK]

Originally posted by: istallion
Yeah, there were several Jesus references in the first film. Keanu in any love/romance scene with trinity makes me hit the fast-forward button.

Im not trying to be a punk here, but name one reference to jesus in any of the films. It must be to only jesus and cannot be paralleled to any other figure relig or not.

People coming to neo asking for him to do stuff for them may be a religeous reference but there is nothing about it that is particular to jesus.

I really hate it when people interpret things as being "jesus" and get all pissed about it when it could just as easily be any figure people belive can help them.

 

he was gettin some phone nookie - can you hear me now

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: MegaloManiaK


Im not trying to be a punk here, but name one reference to jesus in any of the films. It must be to only jesus and cannot be paralleled to any other figure relig or not.

People coming to neo asking for him to do stuff for them may be a religeous reference but there is nothing about it that is particular to jesus.

I really hate it when people interpret things as being "jesus" and get all pissed about it when it could just as easily be any figure people belive can help them.

Um...it goes along with a lot of the other overt religious symbolism and themes in the movie. And yes, you're being a punk

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: CFster
Uh huh. He isn't writing literary criticism here, he's writing a book report about a kung fu movie. The fact that his books are popular doesn't mean they're good - don't make that mistake. There's a big freekin difference.

Let's step back and take a look shall we?

I never said they were necessarily good or bad, only that it obviously wasn't a waste of time for him to write all that, since I'm sure it netted him a lot of money. Theres a big freakin' difference, no? Second of all, just because a story is told in video instead of in a book, or just because the video also caters to the taste of action-enthusiasts, does NOT necessarily make it shallow in any sense. All you snobs who instantly say 'omg youre thinking too much its just a movie!!11' are just plain annoying

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: CFster
Uh huh. He isn't writing literary criticism here, he's writing a book report about a kung fu movie. The fact that his books are popular doesn't mean they're good - don't make that mistake. There's a big freekin difference.

Let's step back and take a look shall we?

I never said they were necessarily good or bad, only that it obviously wasn't a waste of time for him to write all that, since I'm sure it netted him a lot of money. Theres a big freakin' difference, no? Second of all, just because a story is told in video instead of in a book, or just because the video also caters to the taste of action-enthusiasts, does NOT necessarily make it shallow in any sense. All you snobs who instantly say 'omg youre thinking too much its just a movie!!11' are just plain annoying

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: m2kewl
NEO!! I AM YOUR FAAAADDDDDAAAAAARRRR!

I nearly p|ssed on myself when I read this...ROTFLMFAO! :Q:Q

Buwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaah!

Thanks m2kewl...that was awsome!

Originally posted by: jntdesign
he was gettin some phone nookie - can you hear me now

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ROTFLMAO again!

 

[Growltiger]

Originally posted by: jobberd

All you snobs who instantly say 'omg youre thinking too much its just a movie!!11' are just plain annoying

I think double posts are annoying

 

[jobberd]

Originally posted by: Growltiger

Originally posted by: jobberd

All you snobs who instantly say 'omg youre thinking too much its just a movie!!11' are just plain annoying

I think double posts are annoying

Congratulations, you've managed to ignore the argument while saving face! AND you ended with a witty retort, too! I don't think there's anything left for you to accomplish in this thread, you might as well leave

 

[CFster]

I never said they were necessarily good or bad, only that it obviously wasn't a waste of time for him to write all that, since I'm sure it netted him a lot of money. Theres a big freakin' difference, no? Second of all, just because a story is told in video instead of in a book, or just because the video also caters to the taste of action-enthusiasts, does NOT necessarily make it shallow in any sense. All you snobs who instantly say 'omg youre thinking too much its just a movie!!11' are just plain annoying

I've seen a lot of bestsellers that were a complete waste of time.