Quick legal question...?

[guapo337]

Can things against the government that one writes as answers on a standardized test be used against that person as the basis of an investigation/prosecution/expelling?

 

[guapo337]

legal reasoning please

 

[Mill]

Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

 

[GasX]

I don't think you could write something inteligible enough to be found treasonous...

 

[guapo337]

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

 

[guapo337]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
I don't think you could write something inteligible enough to be found treasonous...

Makes sense because it wasnt me.

 

[GroundZero]

Your ass is going to be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay.
Where you are going to be tag-teamed by Tom Ridge and John Asscroft.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

Because typically you aren't going to take an expulsion to the USSC that's why. Freedom of speech LIMITED as well. Certain things are not protected.

 

[guapo337]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

Because typically you aren't going to take an expulsion to the USSC that's why. Freedom of speech LIMITED as well. Certain things are not protected.

LIMITED? what isn't protected?

 

[tennisflip]

If something is said against the gov you they could probably envoke the patriot act.

 

[Zombie]

Welcome to CAMP X-RAY

 

[cambre]

There a 5 big ones that I know of:

Obscenity
Advocacy of violence or illegal action
Fighting words
Commercial Speech
Defamation

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

Because typically you aren't going to take an expulsion to the USSC that's why. Freedom of speech LIMITED as well. Certain things are not protected.

Bad mouthing the gov't certainly is protected.

 

[guapo337]

Originally posted by: cambre
There a 5 big ones that I know of:

Obscenity
Advocacy of violence or illegal action
Fighting words
Commercial Speech
Defamation

these are not protected by the 1st amendment? so if one said they didn't like the current administration it can be used against them? or if they say they like guns?

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

They should expel you for not exercising proper grammar.

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: cambre
There a 5 big ones that I know of:

Obscenity
Advocacy of violence or illegal action
Fighting words
Commercial Speech
Defamation

these are not protected by the 1st amendment? so if one said they didn't like the current administration it can be used against them? or if they say they like guns?

Yes, you are absolutely allowed to say you dont like the current administration. However, if you got up in front of the class and said "lets violently overthrow the government", that is not protected. However, if you wrote "I think the government should be violently overthrown" in a test pamphlet, you are likely to be safe, as there was not sufficient audience to act on your remark.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: cambre
There a 5 big ones that I know of:

Obscenity
Advocacy of violence or illegal action
Fighting words
Commercial Speech
Defamation

especially a threat against the prez or VP. secret service WILL investigate these.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: cambre
There a 5 big ones that I know of:

Obscenity
Advocacy of violence or illegal action
Fighting words
Commercial Speech
Defamation

these are not protected by the 1st amendment? so if one said they didn't like the current administration it can be used against them? or if they say they like guns?

Yes, you are absolutely allowed to say you dont like the current administration. However, if you got up in front of the class and said "lets violently overthrow the government", that is not protected. However, if you wrote "I think the government should be violently overthrown" in a test pamphlet, you are likely to be safe, as there was not sufficient audience to act on your remark.

This man has it down pat.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: guapo337

Originally posted by: Mill
Expelling and investigation yes. Prosecution... it depends what you wrote.

I didn't write anything. And why can they expel you for exercising your writes to freedom of speech? The answers im talking about we're totally in the realm of the prompt given.

Because typically you aren't going to take an expulsion to the USSC that's why. Freedom of speech LIMITED as well. Certain things are not protected.

Bad mouthing the gov't certainly is protected.

Well "things against the government" is a little broad don't you think? Be hard to know if it was protected or not.