Questions about TWAIN, scanners and pci usb cards

ThePrIsMcAURA

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Hi,

I just tried to install a PCI-USB card for this guy on his Celeron 400 AT system, i'm pretty sure that it is a socket 7 motherboard. Well anyhow it didn't have USB ports on it so he needed the card. He is running Win98SE for the USB support.
Ok here's the problem. I install the card and win98 detects it and then asks for the win98se disk to install the appropriate drivers. Goes through that no probs and restarts.

I go to install the USB Canon 650U scanner and it doesn't get detected. I try add new hardware search, nothing comes up. I go to install the software for it and then it says TWAIN has not been installed properly.
I took the scanner and installed it on my computer and it went through no probs everything detected. No twain problems
I tried to install a digital video camera but again it wasn't detected.
At this point I have decided that the USB inputs on the card are faulty.

What else I want to clarify is that the TWAIN drivers come with the scanners software or are part of Win98SE.
I understand that TWAIN is a set of command protocols that enable the transfer of data from one device to the computer.
I got that info from www.twain.org and http://www.tafe.sa.edu.au/institutes/torrens-valley/programs/eit/periph/twain.htm
But they didn't state that TWAIN is in the OS or the scanner software.
Or that win98 didn't detect the hardware in the first place the twain protocol was not activated/installed therefor not being able to select any devices in the selection list to install software to.

I don't think it could be his OS's fault because it worked no probs on my system with win98. So its gotta be just the card.

Please clarify what I posted is correct.
THanks in advance.
 

Workin'

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Do the USB ports show up OK in Device Manager?

A Celeron 400 would use a Slot 1 or Socket 370 board. I would think that any board that would support a Celeron would also have integrated USB, even though it is AT form factor. There are probably header connectors on the mobo for USB, but the cable needed to add USB connectors to the outside world are often an extra-cost option. But you should be able to find some that would work.

If you don't want to mess around with that, go into the BIOS setup and disable the integrated USB, it may be conflicting with the add-on card.
 

ThePrIsMcAURA

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THanks for that reply, yeah it does pop up in the device manager ok and it says that this device is working properly.
When you put the USB device in nothing gets detected as new hardware.

Where in the BIOS is the enable USB intergration?

I can't see any slots or connectors available on the motherboard that would be for USB devices.
I followed everything on the instructions exactly as shown but it wouldn't detect anything.

Any other suggestions
 

Workin'

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The connectors for USB on an AT motherboard usually look like really small IDE connectors, except with only maybe 8 pins or so, I'm not exactly sure. It wouldn't be a slot, it would be about the size of a piece of Trident gum, you know, a little rectangular port.

In the BIOS, there is probably a choice called "integrated peripherals" or somthing similar where you can enable/disable the drive controllers, any on-board sound or video, and maybe built-in USB.

I hate to suggest this, but did you try the USB card in your computer? Don't know if you are brave enough to try it, it might mess up your system software. But, live and learn, right?