creatine does help you recover quicker, but is also helps the body produce more ATP that is stored until it can be used. If not used it is broken down pretty quickly, hence the reason for a pre-workout dose...it also ensures that your muscles are filled with the maximum amount before going into the workout which because of the creatine can help them increase muscle twitch during and inbetween sets. There are other reasons also, and depending on what you are looking for some people do not do the pre-workout dose while others swear by its helpfulness (including me). But anyway anywhere you will read almost everyone recomends are pre-workout dose.
creatine does help you recover quicker, but is also helps the body produce more ATP that is stored until it can be used. If not used it is broken down pretty quickly, hence the reason for a pre-workout dose...it also ensures that your muscles are filled with the maximum amount before going into the workout which because of the creatine can help them increase muscle twitch during and inbetween sets. There are other reasons also, and depending on what you are looking for some people do not do the pre-workout dose while others swear by its helpfulness (including me). But anyway anywhere you will read almost everyone recomends are pre-workout dose.
im not trolling at all...... what i said was quite ON TOPIC and if i told a group project group that i ha a relative die doesn't really impact anything else that i may say.... no, i did not fake a relatives death.... get overyourself partner....i would defenitly NOT encourage someone to take supplement advice from someone who misleads people into thinking they need to damage their bodies in the long run to see results.... I have done instense weight lifting, and trained w/ a body builder for 2 years......
EDIT...and get your facts at least right a-hole, about what i did.....i had already done the whole project, so please stop making crap up you uber-elite online forum poster
lol I am sure you have, you already admitted your a kid, I am sure you have trained with a pro body builder mmmhmmm. Man the irony in what you just said is funny because its so obvious your lying. stop crapping up my thread because I am just providing info on supplements, not telling them to go take them as you so childishly suggested... You sir need to read the whole thread before jumping to conclusions
im 22 years old, jag off. I trained w/ a body builder for 2 years...NEVER said he was PRO...but he did body building shows, so again, what i said was right.. i read the whole thread, stop being offended because someone brings your "data" criticism
EDIT...and you say i so childly suggested that you siad everyone should takke this..i never did such a thing... I said you neglectfully put out such a unique and catered supplement regiment when most ppl will never NEED to do anything close...get your facts straight
Im gonna stay quiet in this thread except for what supplements I feel are worth a damn.
Whey Protein
Caseinate Protein
Creatine Ethyl Ester
Multivitamin
Glutamine
I try to keep it simple.
Some good resources I have found are:
www.Proteinfactory.com
www.Allthewhey.com
www.Ezpricematch.com (I find the cheapest online retailer and they will beat that price)
I will edit when I think of any more.
Whey Protein
Caseinate Protein
Creatine Ethyl Ester
Multivitamin
Glutamine
I try to keep it simple.
Some good resources I have found are:
www.Proteinfactory.com
www.Allthewhey.com
www.Ezpricematch.com (I find the cheapest online retailer and they will beat that price)
I will edit when I think of any more.
Son of a noob, I'm currently only taking whey powder supplements and Centrum vitamins atm. My weightlifter friends in my class tell me not to do Creatine yet at this age (15 yrs old), wait until you are like 18 or around there.
What do you say about this?
EDIT: Whey Powder is the only supplement I've tried so far.
What do you say about this?
EDIT: Whey Powder is the only supplement I've tried so far.
continue with the whey :thumbsup:
your friends are right, while there is no proof that creatine does any damage to a body that young, it is due to a lack of studies. Also because you are not fully developed you will not really see as much of a benefit with creatine because you have less muscle surface area in which the creatine is absorbed through. Just eat healthy and keep working hard!
If you really do want to try creatine I would wait until a year or so of lifting and then read up a lot about it, talk with your parents and even consult your physician
Creatine has no effect on the HTPA so I doubt it will cause much trouble. Its not a neccesity though.
correct, good info!
Where did you get your personal trainer certification from? I am just curious because I have always thought of getting mine
Is it really beneficial to cycle ECA stacks? And if so, is 5 days (mon-fri) on, 2 days (sat sun) off ok?
The ACSM which has a golden reputation. Ive been debating on becoming a certified strength and conditioning coach which is done through the NSCA, but you need a health related B.S. which I will have next semester.
I forgot to mention, I love it when people tell me that creatine will shrink my balls and/or penis. LOL
Well stuides have proven that ECA stacking does cause thermogenisis and definately speeds up your matabolism, but I would never take them. It really depends on your goals. What are they?
And you must take those two days off when stacking because your body needs time to recover from the effects.
Originally posted by: Koing
You didn't powerclean that. That was a full clean if you squated below parallel with the catch. If you didn't squat below parallel it was a powerclean
I'm not in to supplements.
Koing
yup i remember our PM convo
but, nope its a power clean now, my legs are completely parallel, I retested after revamping it a bit. It turned out the reason i was breaking parallel on my cleans is I was locking out my elbows to early to compensate for a wrist injury I had a while ago. I fixed it and am now doing true powercleans. Thank you for bringing that to my attention though
I can't possibly imagine doing any of my workouts before work which is from 9am-6pm. I have to fit this into my schedule which would be right after work. And I don't plan on doing this in the gym, I have a treadmill @ home as well as a bench and weights so there's no one to look after me but I should be ok, I'm quite careful and I know how to handle/use the equipment. Basically to get to the point, I don't have the time I used to have as a teen these days so my workouts will have to be limited therefor I should do the ones I enjoy. I also know to alter the intensity of my workouts to "fool" my muscle into an more efficient burn mode since from my research I read that you don't want to stick to a regular routine because your muscles would get used to it and you end up not getting much gain out of your workouts.
What I have in mind is 5 small meals/day(as opposed to 2 large meals that I'm doing now) of equal calories. I can start with a small breakfast and OJ(For Vit C) and a multivitamin(with zinc?). Then have a midmorning snack, lunch, midday snack. Then after work whenever I get home, I then take another multivitaman or whatever and get on my workouts until 8(which can range from 1-2 hours depending on if I had to work overtime) then it's dinner. The rest of the night is pretty much it as I have other things to do. I can't just swear off my computer entirely.
This is the best I can do under my current time limitations. I'm not looking for a six pack or to look great, I just want to be healthy(specifically more alert and energetic) and get at least a mildly decent tone out of it. And yea, I don't see myself doing much crunches, I've tried the ab roller thing and I even hated that. Again, I'm not after a 6 pack, just wanna trim the waistline to about 30(Currently 32-34).This is what I have in mind after work during the week: I would run on mon, wed, fri(1-2 hours), Tue and Thur I'll spend on weights. My weekends are spent with friends but on the days where we don't do anything, I will go on a run(maybe even outdoors) in the morning and weight training in the afternoon or at night. Also my diet will prob be all messed up on weekends cuz it's not easy eating 5 smaller balanced meals on when you're out doing who knows what. I might even workout on sundays which depends on friday cuz I often go out friday night as well.
Anyway, any more advice would be great. Thanks
I'm always afraid of taking any supplements that aren't approved by the FDA for the simple reason that there is no / little information on 1) long term impact of taking the stuff and 2) unknown drug interactions with what you're taking.
Just my 2cents
PS -- and yes, all "supplements" are drugs.....
Just my 2cents
PS -- and yes, all "supplements" are drugs.....
Actually come to think about it, I would like to actually run in the mornings but I have a problem waking up at 8 as it is but maybe getting into healthy eating and working out might change that. Also if I can perform well at work without being tired from the run and manage to wake up at 7 daily I just might go for a morning run and maybe even throw in an hour after work.
Oh, and what kind of leg workouts would you recommend that I could do from home. I thought jogging would be all the leg workout I need. And I could use a recommendatin on a brand of multivitman, maybe a link to it so I can research on what's in it.
Oh, and what kind of leg workouts would you recommend that I could do from home. I thought jogging would be all the leg workout I need. And I could use a recommendatin on a brand of multivitman, maybe a link to it so I can research on what's in it.
What's your take on ZMA?
I read about it and started taking it some time ago while training. My results were great in the following areas:
* Decreased DOMS leading to subsequently better workouts on the next session
* Better sleep, hence fuller recovery
There was another side benefit that is harder to explain. The research I did said it could help boost testosterone levels. I beleive it did.
Once that bottle was finished, I couldn't find that brand anymore, so I gave up on ZMA altogether. Stupid mistake!
On another training cycle 1 year later, I bought a different brand. This time, I felt NOTHING. No objective nor subjective gains based on the supplementation.
I'll be the first to admit that this could all be in my head, but my results with one brand and my complete lack of effects from another brand make me curious...
I read about it and started taking it some time ago while training. My results were great in the following areas:
* Decreased DOMS leading to subsequently better workouts on the next session
* Better sleep, hence fuller recovery
There was another side benefit that is harder to explain. The research I did said it could help boost testosterone levels. I beleive it did.
Once that bottle was finished, I couldn't find that brand anymore, so I gave up on ZMA altogether. Stupid mistake!
On another training cycle 1 year later, I bought a different brand. This time, I felt NOTHING. No objective nor subjective gains based on the supplementation.
I'll be the first to admit that this could all be in my head, but my results with one brand and my complete lack of effects from another brand make me curious...
I think ZMA is not terribly effective. Although its not very expensive I still feel its pretty ineffective. It is supposedly beneficial for someone coming off a cycle of AAS.
Correct..... but Clomid and HCG are the best for that. Nolvadex is also good when used in conjunction with clomid.
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