questions about otc medicine's

[Vette73]

With ibuprofen that is indeed the case. 800 is the effective dosage, 400 doesn't do much.

Its does for me and most. Many studies have shown that higher doses do nto always = better treatment. Hell one of the worst things drug companies worry about now is placebo's. They have shown to work almost as well as some drugs themselves.

Now if you are obese then you may need a higher dose, but for most regular people that is not the case. Like I said before I took just 1 ibuprofen after my motorcycle accident.

<--- Use to work in Pharm

 

[tcsenter]

You sure? I know asprian can eat away at your stomach but Ibuprofen is known to cause heart issus.

The entire class of NSAIDs are fairly rough on the stomach. Aspirin is part of that class.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Maybe eits has a few adjustments he can do on you...

Just kidding, just kidding. Did the doc prescribe you any good painkillers? If you're having trouble with pain control, you can call the doctor up and let him know and he might be able to write you for a few... As far as the cold goes, you should alternate between Tylenol and ibuprofen at their recommended doses and stay well hydrated.

nah she didnt give me pain killers, said I would do ok with ibuprofen. and I had just developed the cold recently. been drinking a shit load of water, all ive done is piss my pants.

 

[eits]

Maybe eits has a few adjustments he can do on you...

Just kidding, just kidding. Did the doc prescribe you any good painkillers? If you're having trouble with pain control, you can call the doctor up and let him know and he might be able to write you for a few... As far as the cold goes, you should alternate between Tylenol and ibuprofen at their recommended doses and stay well hydrated.

lol

in all honesty, if he lived locally, i'd certainly like to check him out to see if there was something i could do to help.

it's just cruddy seeing young people needing so much medicine for pain. have you tried other things, op? yoga? diet? exercise?

 

[BoomerD]

lol

in all honesty, if he lived locally, i'd certainly like to check him out to see if there was something i could do to help.

it's just cruddy seeing young people needing so much medicine for pain. have you tried other things, op? yoga? diet? exercise?

Come on eits...yoga, diet, and exercise aren't going to help with the pain of a broken ankle...

 

[moshquerade]

all i'm going to add is be careful of long term higher than rec dosages of ibuprofen. gastritis can strike, and that ain't pretty.

 

[eits]

nah she didnt give me pain killers, said I would do ok with ibuprofen. and I had just developed the cold recently. been drinking a shit load of water, all ive done is piss my pants.

?? wtf are you taking ibuprofen for if you're getting over a cold?

nsaids thin the blood and decrease tissue healing.

 

[eits]

Come on eits...yoga, diet, and exercise aren't going to help with the pain of a broken ankle...

sorry, i've been skimming this thread. missed where he said he had a broken ankle.

diet definitely will, though.

 

[BoomerD]

sorry, i've been skimming this thread. missed where he said he had a broken ankle.

diet definitely will, though.

Maybe if the main food group included vicodan...

YES, proper diet and exercise will help during rehabilitation...but unless he's eating fast food for every meal, diet isn't going to do much for the pain of a broken ankle.

 

[Mo0o]

?? wtf are you taking ibuprofen for if you're getting over a cold?

nsaids thin the blood and decrease tissue healing.

Not really. Aspirin might thin the blood in teh sense that decreases platelet function but unless he's acutely bleeding, it wont make a difference. NSAIDs are good for inflammation and temperature control without significant impact on long term healing, its not like he's taking prednison here. A alternating regimen of Tylenol and NSAIDs will help bring down his temp and help address any myalgias he might have that are related to his URI.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

?? wtf are you taking ibuprofen for if you're getting over a cold?

nsaids thin the blood and decrease tissue healing.

because i also have a broken ankle?

lol

in all honesty, if he lived locally, i'd certainly like to check him out to see if there was something i could do to help.

it's just cruddy seeing young people needing so much medicine for pain. have you tried other things, op? yoga? diet? exercise?

no yoga, my diet is pretty balanced, and i exercise every day. i re-injured my ankle from this summer when i sprained it on 4th of july. now i have little stress fractures on the bone(i cant think of what the name of them is, but they heal faster than a full on fracture). I think the cold is just back to school germs, no fever but gnarly congestion.

 

[alkemyst]

If you have a broken ankle and your doctor recommended a dosage I'd stick with it. OTC's are generally much cheaper if you can use them if you don't have health insurance. Something like ibuprofen would be probably cheapest OTC then even on the best plans.

 

[eits]

Not really. Aspirin might thin the blood in teh sense that decreases platelet function but unless he's acutely bleeding, it wont make a difference. NSAIDs are good for inflammation and temperature control without significant impact on long term healing, its not like he's taking prednison here. A alternating regimen of Tylenol and NSAIDs will help bring down his temp and help address any myalgias he might have that are related to his URI.

the more recent studies i've read about sports injuries and taking nsaids during rehab shows that it takes longer partly because the nsaids thin the blood, thereby robbing the tissues of what nutrients they need for healing to some degree, partly because the patients had a false sense of health of the injured area due to lack of pain, and partly because inflammation is a GOOD thing when there's an injury and if you get rid of the inflammation that should be in the area, you rob the tissue of its natural ability to heal itself through the inflammatory process.

 

[Mo0o]

the more recent studies i've read about sports injuries and taking nsaids during rehab shows that it takes longer partly because the nsaids thin the blood, thereby robbing the tissues of what nutrients they need for healing to some degree, partly because the patients had a false sense of health of the injured area due to lack of pain, and partly because inflammation is a GOOD thing when there's an injury and if you get rid of the inflammation that should be in the area, you rob the tissue of its natural ability to heal itself through the inflammatory process.

I just did a quick search of the literature again. This is the latest review article I found:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19240368

From what I read, a lot of the possible evidence against NSAIDs is all taken from animal models and humans studies have been very inconclusive. The authors conclude that short term NSAID use (especially teh more selective ones) for pain relief related to a fracture/stress fracture shouldn't not have long term effects on ossification and strength.

I havent looked at the body of the article in detail but what do you mean specifically in that it "thins" the blood?

 

[Jeff7]

A post that was not in any way about the apostrophe in the title.

You make gram'mar nazis sad.

 

[BoomerD]

You make gram'mar nazis sad.

Sorree. it am may dai orf...Eye is werking on teh nixt edishun ov mai noo buuk.

 

[Ichinisan]

"medicines" = more than one medicine ("medications" sounds better)
Example:
"My grandmother is on many different medications."

"medicine's" = "medicine is" (improper) or "belonging to the medicine"
Examples:
"The medicine's in the cabinet, dear." (medicine is...)
"The medicine's taste was extremely bitter." (bitter taste is a property belonging to the medicine)

 

[Eos]

Ibuprofen reduces swelling.
Acetaminophen is a fever reducer.

Don't fuck with Acetaminophen.

I'm 6'6", 365 and will take the exact dosage on the bottle for Acetaminophen, but generally add an extra 200mg every four hours of Ibuprofen.

Consult a health care professional.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

If you have a broken ankle and your doctor recommended a dosage I'd stick with it. OTC's are generally much cheaper if you can use them if you don't have health insurance. Something like ibuprofen would be probably cheapest OTC then even on the best plans.

Well, considering 800mg ibuprofen is on most $4/$10 generic plans.....

At any Kroger store you can get 60 for $4 or 180 for $10. Probably equivelant quantities on every other $4/$10 generic plan, too.

 

[alkemyst]

"medicines" = more than one medicine ("medications" sounds better)
Example:
"My grandmother is on many different medications."

"medicine's" = "medicine is" (improper) or "belonging to the medicine"
Examples:
"The medicine's in the cabinet, dear." (medicine is...)
"The medicine's taste was extremely bitter." (bitter taste is a property belonging to the medicine)

Well grammar nazi...he was asking about medicine's "DOSAGE".

Just thought I'd help you a bit, because helpful poster is helpful.

 

[alkemyst]

Well, considering 800mg ibuprofen is on most $4/$10 generic plans.....

At any Kroger store you can get 60 for $4 or 180 for $10. Probably equivelant quantities on every other $4/$10 generic plan, too.

I am not sure what you are talking about...sounds like you are both agreeing and disagreeing with me at the same time.

http://apennycloser.com/2007/09/06/are-prescription-co-pays-ripping-you-off/

On most of the plans I know your co-pay only covers up to a month of medicine. For most plans the minimum co-pay is $15 now around here. You can usually buy more than a months supply of many drugs and double/triple/more them up for less than that.

 

[eits]

I just did a quick search of the literature again. This is the latest review article I found:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19240368

From what I read, a lot of the possible evidence against NSAIDs is all taken from animal models and humans studies have been very inconclusive. The authors conclude that short term NSAID use (especially teh more selective ones) for pain relief related to a fracture/stress fracture shouldn't not have long term effects on ossification and strength.

I havent looked at the body of the article in detail but what do you mean specifically in that it "thins" the blood?

do a google search. you may find more evidence.

i don't think it will slow ossification at all or decrease integrity of the bone. osteoclastic activity is independent of the inflammatory process.

also, ibuprofen is a mild blood thinner. that's why you shouldn't take it with aspirin or other anticoags.

cool fact: you bruise easier when you take ibuprofen.

 

[alkemyst]

like any NSAID.

 

[Ichinisan]

Well grammar nazi...he was asking about medicine's "DOSAGE".

Just thought I'd help you a bit, because helpful poster is helpful.

I G-Nazi'd the thread title.

questions about otc medicine's

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[Mo0o]

do a google search. you may find more evidence.

i don't think it will slow ossification at all or decrease integrity of the bone. osteoclastic activity is independent of the inflammatory process.

also, ibuprofen is a mild blood thinner. that's why you shouldn't take it with aspirin or other anticoags.

cool fact: you bruise easier when you take ibuprofen.

The antiplatelet effects (which is what I'm assuming yo'ure referring to when you say "thin the blood") with ibuprofen isnt nearly as noticeable as it is with aspirin, thats why people with heart disease take baby aspirin and not baby ibuprofen. The main reason you dont want to take aspirin and ibuprofen together is because of the risk of stomach ulcers, which has nothing to do w/ the "blood thinning." Unless I'm mistaking what you're saying and referring to something else why you say "thin the blood"

And I searched through the literature on pubmed and that review covered most of the literature published up until then so I'll trust its integrity.

All i'm saying is, if you have a stress fracture, rest and short term NSAIDs is perfectly fine and will not have any long term effects on healing.