Questions about 3GHZ Prescott...

Lyfer

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What are the benefits of prescott? Is it faster/cooler than the regular 3.0C? Or should I just get an A64 3000 instead?



BTW How well does the 3GHZ prescott overclock?
 

myocardia

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Actually, the 3.0E (Prescott) is slower and hotter than the P4C's.
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If you are considering buying a chip, the 3.0C is hitting the highest speeds of all of the P4's.:D I want one myself!
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
AMD chips suck. wait until Intel unlocks the 64 bit capabilities in prescott.

Don't mind the trolls. I'm sure there'll be many of them showing up in this thread on both sides of the debate. I'd say stick with the P4-Cs if you're going with Intel but the Athlon64s are definitely worth looking into :)
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
AMD chips suck. wait until Intel unlocks the 64 bit capabilities in prescott.

Don't mind the trolls. I'm sure there'll be many of them showing up in this thread on both sides of the debate. I'd say stick with the P4-Cs if you're going with Intel but the Athlon64s are definitely worth looking into :)

I agree on all front including the many trolls that are popping up!!!

 

Soulkeeper

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i think intel is gonna do something to their prescotts next month so if you can hold off on the purchase till then that might be good
also as far as performance is concerned for all intents and purposes they are close enough to where you wouldn't really notice the difference between prescott and northwood

the only compelling feature i see in prescott is the hope that programs might be able to benefit from sse3 as programmers begin to optimize their code for this

the cpu should overclock atleast as good as the northwood and in most cases better (assuming you have really good cooling)
I am kinda dissapointed by the fact that the prescott runs hotter, heat was one of the main things i was hoping the prescott would help with
kinda a shame intel couldn't reduce heat despite the fact that they shrunk to .09u and lowered the voltage
I wonder how much die space this rumored to be disabled 64-bit stuff is taking up

only get a prescott if you can forget you just blew an extra 10 or 20 bucks for basically the same deal (and accept the stuff mentioned above)
 

SneakyStuff

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unlock 64 bit capabilities? WHO CARES?! that chip is supposed to be hotter than the sun! :D

(EDIT) And in response to the original question GET THE 3000+!!!! Prescotts are supposidly terrible for oc'ing because they run quite hot to begin with, and if you read reviews, people said they had a tough time keeping them stable.
 

jdogg707

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I would wait for the Precott's to mature with the Socket 775 and another revision or two. If you are looking for a solution in there here and now, grab an Athlon 64.
 

Fragtastik

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I have a 2.8E pressie. In windows everything feels faster and smother compared to my older C chip. Also in benchmarks (if you care) I outperform the C chips clocked 4 clock. Alot of people believe what they read. What is true however is that they do run hoter but doesnt really matter cause they are stable. Intel is releasing the new steppings, 20th was supposed to be the date so lets sit back and see.

My 2.8E is @ 3.650 fully stable in case you were wondering on air =)
 

slag

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i'm torn. ARRGH.. should i go ahead and get a 2.8E or wait awhile..


decisions, decisions..

 

ObsoletePC

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I would wait till we see what happens with the LGA775 setup, and the new stepping, see what that brings to the plate.
I personally am waiting to see which new chipsets support the IA32e CPU's, perhaps the 925X? Another aspect would be whether the 925X also supports the upcoming Tejas processor early next year?
 

Geomagick

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Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
unlock 64 bit capabilities? WHO CARES?! that chip is supposed to be hotter than the sun! :D

(EDIT) And in response to the original question GET THE 3000+!!!! Prescotts are supposidly terrible for oc'ing because they run quite hot to begin with, and if you read reviews, people said they had a tough time keeping them stable.

Even if the Prescott's are poor overclockers the Athlon 64 isn't exactly great either, although that's probably more motherboard limited because of the lack of a good AGP/PCI lock.

Then again Fragtastik seems to have a pretty nice overclock.

What cooler are you using for this?
 

slag

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Originally posted by: ObsoletePC
I would wait till we see what happens with the LGA775 setup, and the new stepping, see what that brings to the plate.
I personally am waiting to see which new chipsets support the IA32e CPU's, perhaps the 925X? Another aspect would be whether the 925X also supports the upcoming Tejas processor early next year?

I'm going to use my p4p800 motherboard, so a different package wont do me any good. I will need a socket 478 processor.
 

Big Lar

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Slag.... I think your much better off waiting for the new stepping to go Prescott.
 

Falloutboy

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I have a feeling though that even with 64bit enabled the chip is not going to be any faster than it is now execpt in 64bit stuff. the reason the Athlon 64 performs so well isn't the 64bit its that its a very efficent chip. so don't expect the prescott to become the A64 killer.

The real test will be when some actual 64bir applications start poping up to test with.
Speaking of has anyone tested the 64bit version of UT2004 yet I've seen it on unreal.com but no one has run benchmarks yet from what I've seen
 

jswjimmy

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
AMD chips suck. wait until Intel unlocks the 64 bit capabilities in prescott.

ummm ya right intel even sayed ther is no 64 bit capabilities in the prescott. your thinking of the Intel Itanium 2 Processor.