Question regarding bag checking at stores...

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
See my edit

Oh and I don't mean checking your purse or pockets, I mean checking the receipt against what is in your bag/cart.

That's about the same as checking my pockets. They have no right to look into _my_ personal property.

I disagree, you want to do business there, they can check your receipt on the way out.

If they want my business, they can empty their pockets on my way in.

No, they have absolutely no rights to look into _my_ things, just like the police do not under normal circumstances.

 

[EyeMWing]

They can call the cops if they want. I'll even stick around and wait. But I'll be DAMNED if I'm showing them anything. And if they physically touch me, may god save their souls, I WILL defend myself against their assaults. Nobody's ever given me any flak over it yet.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
See my edit

Oh and I don't mean checking your purse or pockets, I mean checking the receipt against what is in your bag/cart.

That's about the same as checking my pockets. They have no right to look into _my_ personal property.

I disagree, you want to do business there, they can check your receipt on the way out.

If they want my business, they can empty their pockets on my way in.

No, they have absolutely no rights to look into _my_ things, just like the police do not under normal circumstances.

In my opinion, walking down the street and having the police search you has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

 

[edro]

What happens if you are leaving Best Buy, and the alarm goes off? Do they have the right to stop you? What if they say, "Please step back here." and you keep walking? Can they physically grab you? What if they grab you, and you turn around swinging and hit the yellow shirted security guy because he grabbed you?

If anything would make me hit someone, it would be trying to be detained.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
While I agree it is a stupid business practice, I also believe that the store should have every right to do that if they choose to. Law should not govern how someone runs their business. If they piss off customers, it should reflect on their bottom line anyway.

Law shouldn't govern how someone runs thier business?!? LMAO. I'm sorry, but you seem very ignorant to the thousands, if not millions of laws on the books that affect how a company runs a business.

Besides, didn't the company already check me when I went through the check-out, generally located right in front of the exits?

Sorry I am not a democrat.

Neither am I. And this crap is utterly unacceptable. You're the reason they liken conservatism to nazism.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Simply put, I don't think there should be a law in favor of the business, nor do I think there should be one against the business. The consumer has the choice to shop there or not, so don't blame anyone else.

And I do get Skoorb's point about being a monopoly.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
See my edit

Oh and I don't mean checking your purse or pockets, I mean checking the receipt against what is in your bag/cart.

That's about the same as checking my pockets. They have no right to look into _my_ personal property.

I disagree, you want to do business there, they can check your receipt on the way out.

If they want my business, they can empty their pockets on my way in.

No, they have absolutely no rights to look into _my_ things, just like the police do not under normal circumstances.

In my opinion, walking down the street and having the police search you has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

It's the same thing. The store employee wants to search me, and they do not have the right.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: edro13
What happens if you are leaving Best Buy, and the alarm goes off? Do they have the right to stop you? What if they say, "Please step back here." and you keep walking? Can they physically grab you? What if they grab you, and you turn around swinging and hit the yellow shirted security guy because he grabbed you?

If anything would make me hit someone, it would be trying to be detained.

Technically, if you've done nothing wrong, you don't have to stop. At all. Period. But I'd be much more understanding if the alarm goes off (which it periodically does, because their moron cashiers NEVER disable the security tags)

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: edro13
What happens if you are leaving Best Buy, and the alarm goes off? Do they have the right to stop you? What if they say, "Please step back here." and you keep walking? Can they physically grab you? What if they grab you, and you turn around swinging and hit the yellow shirted security guy because he grabbed you?

If anything would make me hit someone, it would be trying to be detained.

No they aren't allowed to detain you. If they think you've stolen something, they can call security/police, they can follow you, they can take pictures of you and your car, but they're on very shaky ground if they try to physically stop you.

(I knew someone who worked in a computer store that experienced a lot of theft, and he had to follow people through the mall once a week or so until the police caught up and could apprehend the person).

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: edro13
What happens if you are leaving Best Buy, and the alarm goes off? Do they have the right to stop you? What if they say, "Please step back here." and you keep walking? Can they physically grab you? What if they grab you, and you turn around swinging and hit the yellow shirted security guy because he grabbed you?

If anything would make me hit someone, it would be trying to be detained.

In that case I'd be willing to let them "rewipe" my purchases.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
See my edit

Oh and I don't mean checking your purse or pockets, I mean checking the receipt against what is in your bag/cart.

That's about the same as checking my pockets. They have no right to look into _my_ personal property.

I disagree, you want to do business there, they can check your receipt on the way out.

If they want my business, they can empty their pockets on my way in.

No, they have absolutely no rights to look into _my_ things, just like the police do not under normal circumstances.

In my opinion, walking down the street and having the police search you has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

It's the same thing. The store employee wants to search me, and they do not have the right.

Well I disagree still, I still believe this has nothing to do with being searched, it is checking a receipt against what is in your bag. Bag as in PLASTIC BAG FROM THE STORE.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Simply put, I don't think there should be a law in favor of the business, nor do I think there should be one against the business. The consumer has the choice to shop there or not, so don't blame anyone else.

And I do get Skoorb's point about being a monopoly.

It isn't against the business, it's for the person. It's all about personal privacy.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
See my edit

Oh and I don't mean checking your purse or pockets, I mean checking the receipt against what is in your bag/cart.

That's about the same as checking my pockets. They have no right to look into _my_ personal property.

I disagree, you want to do business there, they can check your receipt on the way out.

If they want my business, they can empty their pockets on my way in.

No, they have absolutely no rights to look into _my_ things, just like the police do not under normal circumstances.

In my opinion, walking down the street and having the police search you has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

It's the same thing. The store employee wants to search me, and they do not have the right.

Well I disagree still, I still believe this has nothing to do with being searched, it is checking a receipt against what is in your bag. Bag as in PLASTIC BAG FROM THE STORE.

In MY PLASTIC BAG. It's the same thing.

 

[shuan24]

plastic bag from the store is still yours after you've paid for it. Do you take your bags home, empty the contents, then return the empty bag? NO. Its yours, you've paid for it, and they have no right looking in it, store policy or not.

 

[Jack Ryan]

I still think there are two seperate issues here, but I understand your points of view.

 

[iamwiz82]

When I worked in retail, we were not allowed to detain someone against their will even if the alarm went off. People still stopped for it, usually.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
I still think there are two seperate issues here, but I understand your points of view.

Either way it is someone wanting to look into something they have absolutely no right to.

And Wal*Mart will only be a monopoly if morons continue to shop there.

 

[DougK62]

So what's the consensus on un-bagged items?

 

[shuan24]

sooo... basically me carrying a 24-pack of two-ply tp not in a bag does not mean that I have to stop for them?

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
While I agree it is a stupid business practice, I also believe that the store should have every right to do that if they choose to. Law should not govern how someone runs their business. If they piss off customers, it should reflect on their bottom line anyway.

Law shouldn't govern how someone runs thier business?!? LMAO. I'm sorry, but you seem very ignorant to the thousands, if not millions of laws on the books that affect how a company runs a business.

Besides, didn't the company already check me when I went through the check-out, generally located right in front of the exits?

Sorry I am not a democrat.

Great, I'm white. What does that have to do with anything?

There ARE laws on the books that affect how a busniess is run. What you think should happen, what can happen, and does happen different things.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Ok, before I leave work, just to sum it up, I also WOULD NOT STOP for them either, so don't get me wrong. But if a company chose to implement a policy where you HAD to get your bag checked upon leaving, I would not cry for the law to fix it, I would just shop somewhere else.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: KMDupont64

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
While I agree it is a stupid business practice, I also believe that the store should have every right to do that if they choose to. Law should not govern how someone runs their business. If they piss off customers, it should reflect on their bottom line anyway.

Law shouldn't govern how someone runs thier business?!? LMAO. I'm sorry, but you seem very ignorant to the thousands, if not millions of laws on the books that affect how a company runs a business.

Besides, didn't the company already check me when I went through the check-out, generally located right in front of the exits?

Sorry I am not a democrat.

Great, I'm white. What does that have to do with anything?

There ARE laws on the books that affect how a busniess is run. What you think should happen, what can happen, and does happen different things.

No crap, just because a law is there, doesn't make it right.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Ok, before I leave work, just to sum it up, I also WOULD NOT STOP for them either, so don't get me wrong. But if a company chose to implement a policy where you HAD to get your bag checked upon leaving, I would not cry for the law to fix it, I would just shop somewhere else.

I wouldn't shop there, but if I didn't have a choice (or didn't know about the policy) they would have to call the cops.

Clubs like sam's club are different, IMO.

 

[iamwiz82]

I especially love it when the security monkey watches me go through the checkout yet still insists on checking.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KMDupont64
Ok, before I leave work, just to sum it up, I also WOULD NOT STOP for them either, so don't get me wrong. But if a company chose to implement a policy where you HAD to get your bag checked upon leaving, I would not cry for the law to fix it, I would just shop somewhere else.

I wouldn't shop there, but if I didn't have a choice (or didn't know about the policy) they would have to call the cops.

Clubs like sam's club are different, IMO.

I am interested in why you think those clubs are different.