Question on freedom of Speech?

[Eomer of Aldburg]

I have a question on regarding The American Freedom of speech. Can you legally say I have thoughts of killing people and you? Or does that count as a threat, although it isn't saying your going to but only stating your thoughts? Can one write violent witting about hurting others anonymously with no name in involved on who it is? Is anyone like a lawyer and can tell me when and how far Freedom of Speech can cover you?

 

[sisq0kidd]

 

[Corporate Thug]

It all depends on the context. AFAIK, the specificity is what distinguishes a threat from speech.

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

For example, Im 17 and was switched on a new anti-depressant that screwed up my head and during that day I texted My ex that i was having suicidal and homicidal thoughts of killing people and her. Would that be considered a threat? I got in some trouble with my high school administrators and police and I swear they think I'm the next kid to shoot up a school. After my new medicine I'm back to good old stable self except she still loves me and knows it wasn't my fault but that crappy medicine which has a chance to do that to teenagers. problem is her mother, school police, Vice-principal, and her counselor don't want her to talk with me ever. My psychologist thinks I'm stable and a great guy with only a few troubles due to my crappy childhood.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
For example, Im 17 and was switched on a new anti-depressant that screwed up my head and during that day I texted My ex that i was having suicidal and homicidal thoughts of killing people and her. Would that be considered a threat? I got in some trouble with my high school administrators and police and I swear they think I'm the next kid to shoot up a school. After my new medicine I'm back to good old stable self except she still loves me and knows it wasn't my fault but that crappy medicine which has a chance to do that to teenagers. problem is her mother, school police, Vice-principal, and her counselor don't want her to talk with me ever. My psychologist thinks I'm stable and a great guy with only a few troubles due to my crappy childhood.

Probably a threat. It might have been a different scenario if you were talking to a psychologist or another mental health professional.

here is a good read:

http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/free%20speech%20guidelines.htm

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

Thanks for the link man! Although Not sure about those damn adults controlling our situation! I love her and she loves me, what input should they have!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
Thanks for the link man! Although Not sure about those damn adults controlling our situation! I love her and she loves me, what input should they have!

apologize profusely to ALL parties involved, explain the change in medication and hope that they all understand man.

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

Thanks thats what I was planning on doing. An intervention where everyone comes together so everyone can settle this once and for all.

 

[winr]

:thumbsup:

best wishes :sun:

stay cool

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

Originally posted by: winr
:thumbsup:

best wishes :sun:

stay cool

I love anandtech, You guys are like my support and are more of a family than mine! I really do appreciate everyone that responded. I really do love this girl, shes my perfect one <3 or atleast I sure think so.

 

[Mill]

This, honestly, has nothing to do with freedom of speech. You can say what you want, but there are consequences as you found out.

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

your right, was a bit nervous typing my whole story since its a mess....

 

[NanoStuff]

I think if you're criticizing the government, you've taken it too far and you should be arrested. Otherwise, you should say whatever you want.

 

[Ricemarine]

Someone link to that myspace story about the girl who was questioned by secret service agents...

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

lol, it was nothing to do with the government. And yes I did see that link where the girl was questioned by secret service agents due to her threats to the president

 

[angminas]

I wish you good health and such, and I will pray for you, but it seems to me that you aren't stable, or with only a few troubles. You need to take this seriously. And as for adults having input, a lot of them know a hell of a lot more than you about a hell of a lot of different things. You're cursing people much older and (mostly at least) wiser than you, implying they're all ignorant, making light of very scary threats, acting like you're perfectly fine as long as you get the right kind of drugs, and just generally living in a fantasy land.

I know what it's like to have a crappy childhood (though that phrase covers a lot of territory), and it doesn't just go away by the time you're 17 from a magic pill. If I saw you with this kind of attitude after you fantasized about killing my daughter, I'd tell you to stay away too, and I wouldn't be all that nice about it, and I'd be completely in the right. It's very difficult to tell when people mean stuff like that and when they don't, but those who do very often have given ample (in hindsight) warning, very similar to what you did. People are only right to react to it, and you are only wrong to trivialize it.

You seem to have some deep-rooted problems that the pills are only MASKING, not fixing. They're giving you an opportunity to work on the problems, but they're not making the problems go away. You're not ready to be a husband or a father, though I note that your "everything's fine" attitude may be more due to the happy pills than some serious indication of who you are deep inside. It's impossible to tell over a computer, and I'm no shrink anyway. But you need to look very hard at that issue, and maybe look at getting a different doctor. One who won't tell you you're fine, but help you get better.

If you really love her, you won't blow off threatening to kill her, and you won't so quickly decide that you know more than "damn adults" who have very many more years of experience than you do, and a good percentage of whom probably have your and her best interests at heart. You will do whatever is necessary to make sure you seek out wisdom and become the best man you can be, and then become better than that, and so on throughout your life. VERY few people are ready at 17 to commit to someone, and being abused or neglected is just going to put you behind the pace. You may not be able to gain instant wisdom, but you can at least remember that nobody at your age is as smart as they think they are. Usually, not by a very long way.

Maybe you feel 100% sure that what you did should not be called threatening, but nobody else can be sure, because they can't get in your head (and your head's messed up anyway). They have the right and the responsibility to take this VERY seriously and act accordingly, and so do you.

And yes, I do have a lot of specific real-life experience very relevant to your situation.