Question front case fan on SLK3000B

[YeJX]

I am trying to seek a case for the PC I will build (X2 3800+ MSI K8N Neo4-F, 250G HD, 6800GS or 6600GT 2G D-channel memory) I was thinking about SONATA II But lots people tell me the power might not enough. Then I think consider a Antec SLK3000B + seasonic 500W(coz P180 is too expensive and too big I think).
However, I read an article Saying that the front case fan is bad. If it is true then SLK only has that one rear fan.
Is that still enough?
If so, then what silent case I should choose for the seasonic 500W?

 

[YeJX]

Any suggestion?

 

[450R]

The AMD guide they quote says "in some extreme conditions" the front intake fans were recirculating hot air. Sounds like total crap, or rare occurences at the most. If it was such an issue, you'd think at least some of the case manufacturers would factor that into their designs.

Get the SLK3000B and run with and without the intake fan. Use whatever works better.

 

[YeJX]

Is there any silent case with side fan?

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: YeJX
I am trying to seek a case for the PC I will build (X2 3800+ MSI K8N Neo4-F, 250G HD, 6800GS or 6600GT 2G D-channel memory) I was thinking about SONATA II But lots people tell me the power might not enough. Then I think consider a Antec SLK3000B + seasonic 500W(coz P180 is too expensive and too big I think).
However, I read an article Saying that the front case fan is bad. If it is true then SLK only has that one rear fan.
Is that still enough?
If so, then what silent case I should choose for the seasonic 500W?

I'm running the SLK3700 BQE. Only the rear 120mm case fan is installed. I have never used a front intake fan and my case stays nice and cool. That's with an overclocked CPU too. One 120mm exhaust fan in the rear is all you'll need.

The dual rail 450 Watt SmartPower that is included with the Sonata II is more than enough for the components you've chosen. If that's the only reason you're avoiding the Sonata then you might want to reconsider.

 

[YeJX]

That is really a dilema for me now. Then why some people say not enough? Or they never believe Antec

 

[Icepick]

The 450 Watt SmartPower has enough juice to power your PC. It even has dual 12V rails. One with 15A and the other with 17A. If you don't believe me that 450Watts will be enough to power your system then take a look at this power calculator.
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp

The overclocked PC in my signature came out to 262 Watts.

 

[BlackHound]

in this madshrimps review of a sonata II
the reviewer tested with rear exhaust fan only, front and rear fans, internal cowling etc
and determined that
the optimum cooling situation was with the rear exhaust on medium
no internal cowling and no front fan
even for overclocking

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=5&artpage=1429&articID=351

ps: i hope 450 watt smartpower is ok because i have a similar system to you and i am very interested in sonata II (from what i have read i am sure it is)

 

[YeJX]

Originally posted by: BlackHound
in this madshrimps review of a sonata II
the reviewer tested with rear exhaust fan only, front and rear fans, internal cowling etc
and determined that
the optimum cooling situation was with the rear exhaust on medium
no internal cowling and no front fan
even for overclocking

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=5&artpage=1429&articID=351

ps: i hope 450 watt smartpower is ok because i have a similar system to you and i am very interested in sonata II (from what i have read i am sure it is)

So blackhound, what is your system and what PSU and case you are using

 

[ribbon13]

SLK3000B and Seasonic S12 is a great combination. It's good to have an intake fan to increase static pressure in the case (less dust collection). Be sure to buy it from provantage for an awesome price. (ditto for the S12) I used this for an intake on SLK3000s

 

[YeJX]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
SLK3000B and Seasonic S12 is a great combination. It's good to have an intake fan to increase static pressure in the case (less dust collection). Be sure to buy it from provantage for an awesome price. (ditto for the S12) I used this for an intake on SLK3000s

Yes, I would select from either SLK3000B+Seasonic S12(430W or 500W) or SONATA II. Now I am still confusing on the Wattage evaluation(you might see my last post here

 

[BlackHound]

my system is
asus a8n-e
x2 3800
250g wd sataII
2 x 512 corsair
innovision 6800gs (just about to order)
no case / psu yet (looking for understated elegance, quiet, good cooling)

i am considering similar options to you as far as sourcing a case goes:
antec tx1050b (500 watt smartpower 2.0)
antec sonata II (450 watt smartpower 2.0)
antec slk 3000b + truepower / seasonic psu
arctic cooling silentium (seasonic 350 watt)

i have spent longer on case / psu than any other item
simply because there are so many options
and each one has something to recommend it
something that i don't like
and someone to speak for and against it...

 

[YeJX]

Originally posted by: BlackHound
my system is
asus a8n-e
x2 3800
250g wd sataII
2 x 512 corsair
innovision 6800gs (just about to order)
no case / psu yet (looking for understated elegance, quiet, good cooling)

i am considering similar options to you as far as sourcing a case goes:
antec tx1050b (500 watt smartpower 2.0)
antec sonata II (450 watt smartpower 2.0)
antec slk 3000b + truepower / seasonic psu
arctic cooling silentium (seasonic 350 watt)

i have spent longer on case / psu than any other item
simply because there are so many options
and each one has something to recommend it
something that i don't like
and someone to speak for and against it...

As far as I understand, if you do not OC, over 400W should be fine.
if OC then u have to go for beyond 500W

 

[BlackHound]

i won't be overclocking
but
looking on the arctic cooling silentium website
they make some really interesting claims for the
custom built seasonic 350 watt psu
and compare it favourably in graphs etc
with antec truepower 550 watts
in terms of its efficiency
and the power it can continuously deliver.
normally you wouldn't think
a 350 watt psu would cut it.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/pc_case2.php?idx=4

 

[YeJX]

Originally posted by: BlackHound
i won't be overclocking
but
looking on the arctic cooling silentium website
they make some really interesting claims for the
custom built seasonic 350 watt psu
and compare it favourably in graphs etc
with antec truepower 550 watts
in terms of its efficiency
and the power it can continuously deliver.
normally you wouldn't think
a 350 watt psu would cut it.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/pc_case2.php?idx=4

I know that seasonic has the better effieciency compare with true power
well you were talking about if it can be enough for your system.
I believe 350W is just at the edge 400W would be safe.
But high efficiency can save you some money from the electricity bill

 

[Jhhnn]

Heh. I'm continuously amazed at the disinformation wrt dust accumulation. Without intake filters, positive vs negative case pressure is immaterial. It becomes a function of environmental cleanliness and total airflow- the dirtier the environment and the more the total airflow, the more dust and lint that will be deposited in the case... the computer acting like a low efficiency air purifier... most of the dust that comes in goes right on through, anyway.

And, yeh, lots of people will tell you that 500W isn't enough- that's because they're accustomed to cheap over-rated psu's whose continuous output is more like 300W, even if they're rated at 500W. The reason manufacturers can get away with it is because you really don't need 500W in the first place.

The one disadvantage to the slk3000 is the small intake area on the front bezel, which will lead to some recirculation if a powerful front fan is used. The way to avoid that is to not use a front fan, or if you really need one, to block off the passages that allow for case air to get back out between the case and plastic bezel... the fact that it has large side openings for airintakes more than makes up for any lack of front vents, anyway...

You'll need to plan on replacing the chipset fan with a zalman unit, and the gpu fan, as well, anyway, if you actually want quiet, along with a suitably low noise hsf on the cpu. It's nearly impossible to kill the high frequency noise from whiney little fans, no matter what case they're in- much better to reduce noise output up front, and then select a case that breathes well so that wimpy low noise case fans can be effective...

 

[YeJX]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Heh. I'm continuously amazed at the disinformation wrt dust accumulation. Without intake filters, positive vs negative case pressure is immaterial. It becomes a function of environmental cleanliness and total airflow- the dirtier the environment and the more the total airflow, the more dust and lint that will be deposited in the case... the computer acting like a low efficiency air purifier... most of the dust that comes in goes right on through, anyway.

And, yeh, lots of people will tell you that 500W isn't enough- that's because they're accustomed to cheap over-rated psu's whose continuous output is more like 300W, even if they're rated at 500W. The reason manufacturers can get away with it is because you really don't need 500W in the first place.

The one disadvantage to the slk3000 is the small intake area on the front bezel, which will lead to some recirculation if a powerful front fan is used. The way to avoid that is to not use a front fan, or if you really need one, to block off the passages that allow for case air to get back out between the case and plastic bezel... the fact that it has large side openings for airintakes more than makes up for any lack of front vents, anyway...

You'll need to plan on replacing the chipset fan with a zalman unit, and the gpu fan, as well, anyway, if you actually want quiet, along with a suitably low noise hsf on the cpu. It's nearly impossible to kill the high frequency noise from whiney little fans, no matter what case they're in- much better to reduce noise output up front, and then select a case that breathes well so that wimpy low noise case fans can be effective...

I believe there is no perfect case. well, why you would suggest the zalman, you think the AMD headset is not ok? If I choose SONATA II, I might add a GPU fan.