Question for the Christians

[JeffreyLebowski]

I'd ask where all the virgins are?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: MBrownSecondly if Muhammad was up there, then God would be Allah, and contrary to belief, Allah isn't just the word God in another language, its a whole different god, because according to Muslims, Allah has the right to lie, which is a sin, if he needs to, but God can absolutely not be in the presence of evil and sin so therefore he cannot lie because he is Holy.

I don't suppose you happen to have any verses to quote supporting your statements?

 

[manowar821]

Haha... Except for the few funny posts, I'm left here wondering why you guys are being jerk-offs about this. I was hoping for some interesting conversations. Instead there is flaming?
LOL INTERNET

Seriously for a moment, stop getting so wound up. Leftyman was just asking a question.

Sorry, leftyman, I'm an atheist, I'm just backing you up because I was hoping for some cool answers, too.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: leftyman
And why do you feel the need to ridicule me and my question? Please educate me.

I can't give you an honest answer to this question. It is just too ridiculous for me to even comprehend. I don't take scripture so literally that I believe that I will be standing on a could before Jesus (or Mohammed, for that matter) when I die. Personally, your question insults my beliefs and shows just what you think about those that choose to incorporate Christianity into their lives.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: leftyman
And why do you feel the need to ridicule me and my question? Please educate me.

I can't give you an honest answer to this question. It is just too ridiculous for me to even comprehend. I don't take scripture so literally that I believe that I will be standing on a could before Jesus (or Mohammed, for that matter) when I die. Personally, your question insults my beliefs and shows just what you think about those that choose to incorporate Christianity into their lives.

I posed a "what if" question. I am sorry if you feel insulted, that wasnt the intent.

I like to consider myself openminded, sometimes I feel others share that same trait.

my question wasnt written to ridicule, demean or insult anyone or their beliefs.

 

[Ramma2]

Well I'm dead already, not like they can kill me. Guess I head back to earth and haunt people for a while.

 

[BigJ]

I'd say "whoops." Accept whatever I had to, and pass on through the pearly gates.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: leftyman
I posed a "what if" question. I am sorry if you feel insulted, that wasnt the intent.
I like to consider myself openminded, sometimes I feel others share that same trait.
my question wasnt written to ridicule, demean or insult anyone or their beliefs.

The message is the same from whatever God you worship to. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?

God is love. The more loving you are, the greater the chances you went up at the Pearly Gates. God isn't there to say "na na na boo boo." Love is the same regardless if its Islam, Christianity, Buddish, Atheism, etc. Babies that die can go to Heaven, even if they had no concept of religion, because they lack selfishness. Christianity and the scriptures are there to teach us and move us down a certain path to be more in tune with God...

Going to church or atleast trying to learn a bit about religion would help you understand simple concepts such as this.

 

[moshquerade]

i'd like my twizzler now please.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

Then the Christians are "saved" anyway. Read the fsckin' Quran and good luck with your next troll.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: leftyman
I posed a "what if" question. I am sorry if you feel insulted, that wasnt the intent.
I like to consider myself openminded, sometimes I feel others share that same trait.
my question wasnt written to ridicule, demean or insult anyone or their beliefs.

The message is the same from whatever God you worship to. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?

God is love. The more loving you are, the greater the chances you went up at the Pearly Gates. God isn't there to say "na na na boo boo." Love is the same regardless if its Islam, Christianity, Buddish, Atheism, etc. Babies that die can go to Heaven, even if they had no concept of religion, because they lack selfishness. Christianity and the scriptures are there to teach us and move us down a certain path to be more in tune with God...

Going to church or atleast trying to learn a bit about religion would help you understand simple concepts such as this.

Correct me if Im wrong, but I thought you had to accept Jesus Christ as your savior in order to enter heaven, according to Christianity.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

Then the Christians are "saved" anyway. Read the fsckin' Quran and good luck with your next troll.

I find your intolerance quite unbecoming and incompatable with pretty much any religion

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

Then the Christians are "saved" anyway. Read the fsckin' Quran and good luck with your next troll.

I find your intolerance quite unbecoming and incompatable with pretty much any religion

I don't belong to any religion, I wasn't being intolerant, and your OP was an obvious flamebait troll based on ignorance. Your denial of that doesn't change anything, and I'm not the first in this thread to point that out. The Quran specifically states that the followers of Jesus have a place in Heaven. So I answered your question.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Correct me if Im wrong, but I thought you had to accept Jesus Christ as your savior in order to enter heaven, according to Christianity.

It doesn't state in the bible what it takes to get into heaven. Alot of people argue this as there is a verse in the bible that says:

Matthew 10:22 (New International Version)

22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved

That makes you think that if you believe in Jesus you will be saved no matter what. Which I don't believe is true, because there is another saying that says:

James 2:26 (New International Version)

26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

So, from Matthew (thats the book about Jesus), I'm guessing Jesus is referring to himself as God, and God is Love. In the end people will become more and more selfish, and stop loving one another (that is another topic in itself) And as said in James, just doing nothing and just believing in God is not enough, which sorta makes that "Just believe in Jesus as your savior is the only requirement" the wrong answer.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Leftyman was just asking a question.

Sorry, leftyman, I'm an atheist, I'm just backing you up because I was hoping for some cool answers, too.

no, leftyman along with that other dude have been trolling this subject for a week or so
this thread is an attempt to be subtle enough to not get locked and yet still attack religious people

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

Then the Christians are "saved" anyway. Read the fsckin' Quran and good luck with your next troll.

I find your intolerance quite unbecoming and incompatable with pretty much any religion

I don't belong to any religion, I wasn't being intolerant, and your OP was an obvious flamebait troll based on ignorance. Your denial of that doesn't change anything, and I'm not the first in this thread to point that out. The Quran specifically states that the followers of Jesus have a place in Heaven. So I answered your question.

I dont know who you think you are to presume to know my intelligence or lack thereof however this wasnt intended as a troll thread as I stated before.
If you feel the need to basically call me a liar then there really isnt a need for you to post in this thread.
And for one of such inteligence that you obviously are, if you actually took the time to read and also comprehend my post then you would see that I wasnt asking what the Koran stated about Christians entering Heaven, I was asking how a Christian would feel if his belief in God was not what he envisioned.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: manowar821
Leftyman was just asking a question.

Sorry, leftyman, I'm an atheist, I'm just backing you up because I was hoping for some cool answers, too.

no, leftyman along with that other dude have been trolling this subject for a week or so
this thread is an attempt to be subtle enough to not get locked and yet still attack religious people

No this is simply a question that I am asking..actually I am shocked at how this question has pissed people off. But it was an honest question that I was thinking about yesterday while walking my dog.

 

[Fraggable]

Well I imagine I'd be thrown into some form of Hades. I can't imagine I'd be able to do anything about it at that point now would I?

But it won't happen. I'm quite confident of that.

 

[KnickNut3]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

If allah is God then Jesus isnt, then Jesus wouldnt be meeting anyone at the pearly gates...
If Jesus is God then he will be sittign on the throne to the right of his father.

Either way he wont be meeting anyone at the pearly gates.

I think Muslims believe that the prophet Jesus (as Isa) does meet you at the (Islamic) pearly gates. So this would actually be logical if Islam was the "right" religion.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

Then the Christians are "saved" anyway. Read the fsckin' Quran and good luck with your next troll.

I find your intolerance quite unbecoming and incompatable with pretty much any religion

I don't belong to any religion, I wasn't being intolerant, and your OP was an obvious flamebait troll based on ignorance. Your denial of that doesn't change anything, and I'm not the first in this thread to point that out. The Quran specifically states that the followers of Jesus have a place in Heaven. So I answered your question.

I dont know who you think you are to presume to know my intelligence or lack thereof however this wasnt a intended as a troll thread as I stated before
If you feel the need to basically call me a liar then there really isnt a need for you to post in this thread.
And for one of such inteligence that you obviously are, if you actually took the time to read and also comprehend my post then you would see that I wasnt asking what the Koran stated about Christians entering Heaven, I was asking how a Christian would feel if his belief in God was not what he envisioned.

:roll: And what if your intolerance is not how you envisioned? OH NOES!

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done -- in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Vic

:roll: And what if your intolerance is not how you envisioned? OH NOES!

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done -- in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

So you are asking what if an Atheist (I assume you mean me) dies and finds out there is a God?

depends what kind of God I would guess, and what his rules on admission are..:roll:

Ive always done my best to follow the golden rule, maybe that would be enough, maybe not.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Vic

:roll: And what if your intolerance is not how you envisioned? OH NOES!

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done -- in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

So you are asking what if an Atheist (I assume you mean me) dies and finds out there is a God?

depends what kind of God I would guess, and what his rules on admission are..:roll:

Ive always done my best to follow the golden rule, maybe that would be enough, maybe not.

No, I'm not saying that at all. Remember, I'm not religious. What I'm saying is that your OP reads like this:

Butthead: Beavis, what if, like, all the Christians, like died and went to, like, Heaven and found, like, Buddha there instead?
Beavis: Heh heh yeah that would suck for them.
Butthead: Buddha would like send them all to burn in like hell.
Beavis: Fire fire fire fire!!

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

I am finding it difficult to find words to describe how disgusted I am at your complete lack of understanding about Muslim religion. Just to get thing in order I would consider my self agnostic, most of the time apathetic. That being said, you are the problem with America. You are completely ignorant of other people's cultures and have no idea who Mohammad was or the place he takes in the religion. You however have no problem talking like you know what is going on and using your guesses as to Mohammad's role to try to incite intelligent conversation. I suggest if you ever plan to post anything of use on these forums that you actually research the topic even slightly. If you would you would find how much of an absolute dum bass you are. I am not even going to give you the satisfaction of knowing how ignorant you really are about the religion. Find it out yourself. I figured it was common knowledge. But then again, common knowledge all that common.

Cliff's - Ignorant people should keep mouth shut. Google Mohammad, douche.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

When you die and arrive at the pearly gates <---I mean Heaven, what would you do if you were met there by the Islamic prophet Muhammad and also by Jesus and.....

Jesus tells you that you and all the other Christians were wrong, that he is not the son of God that Christianity is not the correct religion and that Muhammad had it right and if you wanted to enter heaven you had to accept the fact that Islam is the religion of God (Allah) and Muhammad was the real deal.

WWYD? (what would you do?)

and no, this isnt some devils trick or Jesus's way of tricking you into testing your faith so those kind of answers dont count

If allah is God then Jesus isnt, then Jesus wouldnt be meeting anyone at the pearly gates...
If Jesus is God then he will be sittign on the throne to the right of his father.

Either way he wont be meeting anyone at the pearly gates.

god damnit people look something up before you make a claim. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: amddude

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: leftyman
serious question so Im hoping for serious answers...

WWYD? (what would you do?)

If allah is God then Jesus isnt, then Jesus wouldnt be meeting anyone at the pearly gates...
If Jesus is God then he will be sittign on the throne to the right of his father.

Either way he wont be meeting anyone at the pearly gates.

Jesus is there to explain to you that he isnt the son of God.

so WWYD?

If this isn't flamebait, I don't know what is.

why is it flamebait? why would one presume to always think their religion is the correct one?
I want to know how people would feel if there is a God and heaven.

Just not the one they thought would be there.

I'd probably do the same thing that most ATOT Atheist Scientist would do if Jesus showed up at their house and told them that everything they think they know is incorrect and that seeking scientific knowledge is a sin.

you arent going to answer are you..

Is there a point to answering?
Lets think about this... im already dead. my afterlife fate is already decided. For a split second im going to realize that i was wrong my whole life... and then either go to heaven or hell based on what allah thinks of my earthly life.

I support my decision based on...
Revelation 3
15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm?neither hot nor cold?I am about to spit you out of my mouth.


I believe it is better to have an opinion, be strong & steadfast...
Rather than to be weak and questioning at every turn.

I believe what you believe because it is full fledged faith... questioning the faith is a sign of weakness... you may say its blindness... I say its boldness.
Now you answer mine...