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Tremulant

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Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
I like Jacobs, physical style and I also like Bradshaw's slasher style too. Ward was a good compromise of both styles. I am really torn between the three. I would like to see the Giants go with a split backs formation once in a while with 2 RBs instead of an RB and FB. All three have really good potential.

I could see Jacobs blocking for Bradshaw in a split backs formation. I think it'd work pretty well, actually.
 

slayer202

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Keep doing what they are doing. splitting time between 2 backs has worked for a bunch of teams
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: da loser
it'll just be rbbc like the steelers had with bettis and parker. thunder and lightning

that was not rbbc... thats a 1-2 punch... which most teams now have.

rbbc is when you have 4 backs and all of them suck and you cant decide which to play...
like SF & miam.

Er, I dunno about Miami - when healthy, Ronnie Brown is most certainly the feature back.
 

oddyager

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Hmm, honestly, I don't think so. He did average I think the third best overall yards per game rushing this season when he could play so he can run. Bradshaw has been a blessing but I think it makes sense to have Jacobs be the feature back and have him wear down the D then bring in Bradshaw.
 

oboeguy

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Has anyone seen Bradshaw carry the ball the whole game? I caught the season in bits and pieces so I can't say. I get the impression that Jacobs pounds the defense into submission, then Bradshaw comes in and blows past them. Awesome combo, in the right order, too.

Anyhow, Jacobs is MUCH quicker than people think. The guy is really nimble. Watch his feet in a tight spot and you'll see. And once he has a head of steam going... whoosh! Both guys are very exciting to watch.
 

BHeemsoth

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Originally posted by: oddyager
Hmm, honestly, I don't think so. He did average I think the third best overall yards per game rushing this season when he could play so he can run. Bradshaw has been a blessing but I think it makes sense to have Jacobs be the feature back and have him wear down the D then bring in Bradshaw.

Many people don't realize that part of the reason for Bradshaw's success is the fact that Jacobs is generally in there for the first half or so wearing down the defense before Bradshaw gets a significant amount of carries. I think the Giants have discovered something in Bradshaw, but he should remain part of a two or three back system.
 

jjones

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I can see them splitting duties and depending upon whose defense your playing against, featuring one back over another in a particular game. Teams have been very successful with the one-two punch from a pair of quality running backs.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: cw42
Everyone has forgotten about Derrick Ward, he did a pretty good job while Jacobs was out earlier in the season.

He's been forgotten because he's not needed unless Jacobs is down.

I'm wondering what will happen to Reuben Droughns. Haven't seen him in awhile, and he seems redundant with Hedgecock and a huge Jacobs to take the short yardage. He played during the regular season but seems to have been abandoned in the post-season. His last two regular season games combined were -6 yards running.

Maybe they'll keep him as a receiving back (7 rec for 49 yards), but his role seems to be declining.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: AndrewR

I'm wondering what will happen to Reuben Droughns. Haven't seen him in awhile, and he seems redundant with Hedgecock and a huge Jacobs to take the short yardage. He played during the regular season but seems to have been abandoned in the post-season. His last two regular season games combined were -6 yards running.

Maybe they'll keep him as a receiving back (7 rec for 49 yards), but his role seems to be declining.

Aside from one nice run I can remember and a few short yardage conversions, he's been largely ineffective this season. He mostly plays on special teams now. I'm not sure of his contract status, but I don't see him having a big role on the team next season.
 

Carbo

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Originally posted by: rpbri2886
I do love watching Bradshaw play. He was such a steal in the 7th round. Thank god he stole those Playstations!

As a matter of fact, the entire draft was great. Think about all the contributors that came out of the draft this year.

Ross
Smith
Bradshaw
Johnson
DeOssie (ST)
Boss

Then, don't forget about the great waiver wire acquisition that Reese made...Domenik Hixon.
Don't forget to mention Madison Hedgecock. The guy is a 265lb sledgehammer.

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Carbo
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
I do love watching Bradshaw play. He was such a steal in the 7th round. Thank god he stole those Playstations!

As a matter of fact, the entire draft was great. Think about all the contributors that came out of the draft this year.

Ross
Smith
Bradshaw
Johnson
DeOssie (ST)
Boss

Then, don't forget about the great waiver wire acquisition that Reese made...Domenik Hixon.
Don't forget to mention Madison Hedgecock. The guy is a 265lb sledgehammer.
Why the Rams cut him before the season is anyone's guess. The guy has played great football.
 

Carbo

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Carbo
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
I do love watching Bradshaw play. He was such a steal in the 7th round. Thank god he stole those Playstations!

As a matter of fact, the entire draft was great. Think about all the contributors that came out of the draft this year.

Ross
Smith
Bradshaw
Johnson
DeOssie (ST)
Boss

Then, don't forget about the great waiver wire acquisition that Reese made...Domenik Hixon.
Don't forget to mention Madison Hedgecock. The guy is a 265lb sledgehammer.
Why the Rams cut him before the season is anyone's guess. The guy has played great football.
That's why the Rams are the Rams.
Back to your original question, TP. Bradshaw should be the featured back next season. He clearly is a better, all around RB than Jacobs. BJ is more a situational back and, in my opinion. I also think he's a bit overrated. He puts the ball on the ground a bit too much for my comfort. And his yards per carry are dropping as the season has worn on. I think in the post season he is down to about 3.5 yards per.
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Well, I don't keep up on the Giants, but if what you say is true, then yeah I could see it. Then again, it might be smarter to use Jacob to bruise the defense up for most of the game and then drop the other one in to change pace.

What I'll be curious about is the Cowboys, I don't see how Marion Barber (did I spell it correctly?) isn't their main back. Of course I don't really keep up on the Cowboys much either, so maybe I'm missing something.

From a lifelong Cowboys fan, I can tell you Barber is a tough interior runner that is probably the hardest back in football to tackle. There was a statistic where he had broken more tackles this year than all but a handfull of backs, and he didn't start a game until the playoffs.

The knock on Barber, as was noted by Bill Parcells when he drafted him from Minnesota, is that he lacks break away speed. This has been evident to Cowboys fans for awhile, and was evident on the run he had in the first half of the Giants game where he couldn't out run the LB or safety chasing him. Also, he takes a lot of hits so you risk injury if you use him full time.

That is why the Cowboys have held on to Julius Jones for so long because he complements Barber so well. He has breakaway speed and does well on catches out of the backfield. But Jones has digresses this season to the point that nobody expects the Cowboys to resign him. So while Barber will be the starter, it is widely expected that the Cowboys will sign a FA to share the load, or draft a RB with one of their 2 first round picks.
 

BHeemsoth

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: AndrewR

I'm wondering what will happen to Reuben Droughns. Haven't seen him in awhile, and he seems redundant with Hedgecock and a huge Jacobs to take the short yardage. He played during the regular season but seems to have been abandoned in the post-season. His last two regular season games combined were -6 yards running.

Maybe they'll keep him as a receiving back (7 rec for 49 yards), but his role seems to be declining.

Aside from one nice run I can remember and a few short yardage conversions, he's been largely ineffective this season. He mostly plays on special teams now. I'm not sure of his contract status, but I don't see him having a big role on the team next season.

Yeah, he had that nice run down to the 1 yard line in the Eagle game. Unfortunately the Giants couldn't put it in for a TD from there.

His contract is actually somewhat affordable, but I wouldn't mind seeking other options...

In describing Reuben Droughns to the media, Giants RBs coach Jerald Ingram pointed out several characteristics of a third-down back.

He was a solid addition to the team I suppose, made better by the fact that they only gave up that bum Tim Carter to get him.