Question for forum regulars

[Centinel]

Are there ever any actual intelligent debates about politics on this forum? Or is at all just the name calling and total regurgitation of BS from both sides that I have seen so far?

Just curious.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Centinel
Are there ever any actual intelligent debates about politics on this forum? Or is at all just the name calling and total regurgitation of BS from both sides that I have seen so far?

Just curious.

Occasionally but for the most part it's an exercise in one upmanship.

 

[Centinel]

That sucks.

I'm still on the lookout for a good, intelligent political debate forum. Guess i'll have to stick to arguing with my liberal feminazi professor who I think totally rocks. At least she can leave the idiocy and looney theories at the door.

 

[conjur]

There are plenty of good threads sprinkled in the e-thuggery.

 

[Centinel]

Ya, I know there probably are. It's just a matter of having the patience to dig through the filth.

 

[Steeplerot]

welcome to the cesspool called p&n. *waves*
Choose your battles, don't feed the endless trolls, and don't take it all too seriously is my view of it all.
(And the search button is your friend.)
Have you tried http://www.freerepublic.com? They love rush limbaugh stereotypical phrases such as feminazis and other assorted hate speech spewing types such as yourself. (or you could just buddy up to rip and the other bush bootlickers they have plenty to contribute along these lines.)

 

[Czar]

we have like..... maybe..... five of those each year


sad thing is I'm not joking

 

[Red Dawn]

Post here enough and you'll end up on someones list!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Some threads can provoke intelligent thought. The propblem is when some one comes in trying to inject a political bias/justification into the mix.

Usually, it becomes all the evil/bad news in a article/item is a fault of the Repubs/Bush.

then when justiication is requested by a supporter, the opponents all jump in with selective links.
then the Rep supporters will counter with selective links.

It boils down to, that if there is a view point expressed that is not in line with ones political leanings, then the political point must be attacked vs the merits of the item.

Regretfully, the libs are much more agressive because their champion lost, therefore they seem to feel a need to compensate by destroying vs building.

Some libs are pure entertainment, others are a PITA.

There are a few that actually will contribute without resorting to political mud slinging as a justification.

 

[Centinel]

Oh steeplerot, just a fyi.

I voted for Badnarik. I am a Libertarian. I am very critical of Bush's current policies to include the patriot act, medicare prescription plan, and the original decision to invade Iraq.

However, I have a problem with morons criticizing ANY policy decision with inuendo, half-truths, and utter BS.

So, sorry to once again bust up your stereotypical view of the world man.

My apologies.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Centinel
That sucks.

I'm still on the lookout for a good, intelligent political debate forum. Guess i'll have to stick to arguing with my liberal feminazi professor who I think totally rocks. At least she can leave the idiocy and looney theories at the door.

Hmmmm, you say you want "good, intelligent debate", but then you label your professor, whom you also admit "can leave the idiocy and looney theories at the door" with the crude, derogatory, dismissive, Rush Limbaugh popularized neologism "feminazi", a term explicitly crafted to discount her very person, brand her as an extremist loon, and signal to all who read your description that anything and everything she says can be preemptorally dismissed.

Yet you go on later in this thread to exhibit a huge defensive streak against anyone who might stereotype you. Irony much?

As for these forums, to paraphrase Winston Churchill regarding democracy, "ATP&N is the worst political forum on the entire intarweb, except for all the others."

This forum can and does suck. But if and when you find a better one, please let us know.

 

[BBond]

There is a lot of good news posted here if you take the time to read it. You can ignore all the politics if you want to but then it becomes the News forum, not the Politics and News forum.

 

[Centinel]

Hey perk, it was a joke. My professor calls HERSELF a feminazi because she finds it highly amusing. I have a helluva lot of respect for my professors, no matter if their ideology is different than mine or not.

Lighten up...seriously.

 

[judasmachine]

I'd say about 1 in 7 or 8 posts have a little merit, and 1 in 70 or 80 have any real merit.

 

[RealityTime]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Some threads can provoke intelligent thought. The propblem is when some one comes in trying to inject a political bias/justification into the mix.

Usually, it becomes all the evil/bad news in a article/item is a fault of the Repubs/Bush.

then when justiication is requested by a supporter, the opponents all jump in with selective links.
then the Rep supporters will counter with selective links.

It boils down to, that if there is a view point expressed that is not in line with ones political leanings, then the political point must be attacked vs the merits of the item.

Regretfully, the libs are much more agressive because their champion lost, therefore they seem to feel a need to compensate by destroying vs building.

Some libs are pure entertainment, others are a PITA.

There are a few that actually will contribute without resorting to political mud slinging as a justification.

You probably just notice those of the liberal mindset more here, because the vast majority of the world does not support bush or his madness. And this forum is open to the world, and not the usa microcosm you live in. So of course you will really notice the 'liberals' as you call them (read sane against the nutty war folks) As we constitute easily an 80% majority in the world.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Centinel
Are there ever any actual intelligent debates about politics on this forum? Or is at all just the name calling and total regurgitation of BS from both sides that I have seen so far?

Just curious.

Occasionally but for the most part it's an exercise in one upmanship.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Centinel
Hey perk, it was a joke. My professor calls HERSELF a feminazi because she finds it highly amusing. I have a helluva lot of respect for my professors, no matter if their ideology is different than mine or not.

Lighten up...seriously.

Sure show your prof. what you said about her in a public forum using her idealogy as a "icebreaker".
I am sure you thought you'd score some bigot points with the "guys" She'd love being the tool of your joke. But then if you have to take personal responsibility for your words we should just "lighten up" though.
Your sounding more and more like a stereotypical rush listener.

 

[Centinel]

*shakes head*

My god....are you really that out of touch with reality?

Ya man...you have me totally figured out Steeplerot. I'm impressed with your remarkable powers of clairvoiancy that you can read what is going on in my mind.

:roll:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: RealityTime

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Some threads can provoke intelligent thought. The propblem is when some one comes in trying to inject a political bias/justification into the mix.

Usually, it becomes all the evil/bad news in a article/item is a fault of the Repubs/Bush.

then when justiication is requested by a supporter, the opponents all jump in with selective links.
then the Rep supporters will counter with selective links.

It boils down to, that if there is a view point expressed that is not in line with ones political leanings, then the political point must be attacked vs the merits of the item.

Regretfully, the libs are much more agressive because their champion lost, therefore they seem to feel a need to compensate by destroying vs building.

Some libs are pure entertainment, others are a PITA.

There are a few that actually will contribute without resorting to political mud slinging as a justification.

You probably just notice those of the liberal mindset more here, because the vast majority of the world does not support bush or his madness. And this forum is open to the world, and not the usa microcosm you live in. So of course you will really notice the 'liberals' as you call them (read sane against the nutty war folks) As we constitute easily an 80% majority in the world.

I have no problem with the liberal mindset.
It is interesting that although you state the majority of the world does not support bush or his madness, and they have no problem denouncing the US, they are also very willing to line up at the trough of foreign aid with their hands out.

It seems that it is correct to denounce the US until it affects their pocketbooks or safety.

 

[Steeplerot]

You insulted a woman and then copped out with a rush line."lighten up"
It is you who should be asking yourself this.

 

[Centinel]

I insulted a woman?

How is it an insult if she does not take offense to it?

...and copped out with the rush line? Excuse me?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
welcome to the cesspool called p&n. *waves*
Choose your battles, don't feed the endless trolls, and don't take it all too seriously is my view of it all.
(And the search button is your friend.)
Have you tried http://www.freerepublic.com? They love rush limbaugh stereotypical phrases such as feminazis and other assorted hate speech spewing types such as yourself. (or you could just buddy up to rip and the other bush bootlickers they have plenty to contribute along these lines.)

You can have political discussion in this forum as long as you follow these unwritten rules:

1) Don't personally attack liberal posters, specifically or as a group. You will be banned.
2) Don't ever ever call out a liberal poster in a different thread. You will be banned.
3) Don't ever call any liberal poster you don't agree with a T**LL. You will be banned.
4) Don't disagree with the extremely liberal moderators that post here. They will find a reason to vacation/ban you. If you figure out who they are, don't mention them by name. They will ban you.
5) Do not cause threads to go off-topic in a non-liberal direction. This will result in a ban.
6) If for some rare reason you are a liberal and get perm-banned (it's only happened once in the history of ATP&N AFAIK), just evade the ban. They'll let you back in.


I'm sure I missed a few, but those are good rules to live by to allow you some intelligent political discussion. Just don't expect to see any different viewpoints.

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The fact that you are still here disproves your premise.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[Steeplerot]

waaah the neocons are so opressed!

 

[yllus]

Welcome to the forums Centinel. As you probably can tell it's pointless to actually try and change a person's mind. Just scan people's posts, and if they use either the term neocon or liberal in a derogatory fashion you can pretty much ascertain that nothing constructive will come out of them. Still a lot of fun to be had though.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Centinel
Hey perk, it was a joke. My professor calls HERSELF a feminazi because she finds it highly amusing. I have a helluva lot of respect for my professors, no matter if their ideology is different than mine or not.

Lighten up...seriously.

Hey, I'm not going as far as above in labeling you, but it is hard to take your plea for enlightened, rational debate so seriously when you use a crude derogatory name to label your professor. I don't care if she appropriates this slander term for herself, it is not for you to so label her to us, and then expect to be taken seriously.

Need further explanation on this point? Fine. Two young black kids call each other "n!gger". You come on this forum, and refer to them as "two little n!ggers". See the differnece?

Want reasoned debate? Then:

Tighten up . . . seriously.