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LiuKangBakinPie

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People have unions? I thought that went out with pensions back in the 80's - except for automakers and some factory work.

how do you guys get yearly pay raises then? We government jobs union is very important because you cant toy toy. But the unions can so they make sure you get a yearly salary raise and provide you with free lawyers expertise with the labor law
 

bobdole369

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how do you guys get yearly pay raises then? We government jobs union is very important because you cant toy toy. But the unions can so they make sure you get a yearly salary raise and provide you with free lawyers expertise with the labor law

We don't. Work it out with your boss. Everyone is treated separately and individually. Nothing is guaranteed. Do a good job, and if the company has a good year, you might get a raise. Not guaranteed - My wife hasn't seen one since the $0.50 raise 2 years back. Decent possibility of taking pay cuts next year for her though.

There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING in Florida as far as labor law. Only a minimum wage > federal minimum. Thats it. Period.
 

Jaepheth

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anyways we are getting OT here so im just gonna call me lawyer and call the ira etc etc and see where this puts me. If they didnt care about putting me off for a couple of weeks and me having no work, well i guess i dont care about how this business operate and just report any illegal activfity there.

I know you're upset, but that's no reason to get your terrorist friends involved. Okay?
 

Stuxnet

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Does it seem to anyone else that the posters accusing him of being racist seem to be more bigoted?

I can easily see the 2nd reply in response to the 1st disparaging his job, but the 3rd and 4th show explicit racism.

My response wasn't racist at all. I called him uneducated because he made an idiotic and uneducated comment.

I don't blame his boss... I'm PICKY about my employees, too. I'd keep my HANDS off people who spoke like that, too, and FILE him in the bad employee folder. Maybe when he gets a little more POLISH he'll be a better worker.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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We don't. Work it out with your boss. Everyone is treated separately and individually. Nothing is guaranteed. Do a good job, and if the company has a good year, you might get a raise. Not guaranteed - My wife hasn't seen one since the $0.50 raise 2 years back. Decent possibility of taking pay cuts next year for her though.

There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING in Florida as far as labor law. Only a minimum wage > federal minimum. Thats it. Period.

We have labor laws. Even the domestic worker can have a union and believe me they do have one. They love toy toying here and striking. Everyone has the right to strike except essential services. It states so in the constitution. But what happens they start damaging property then they get shot in the face with rubber normally. Theres lots of videos on you-tube how they going and getting the shit shot out of them

I know you're upset, but that's no reason to get your terrorist friends involved. Okay?

not much of the IRA left these days lol
 

bobdole369

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We have labor laws. Even the domestic worker can have a union and believe me they do have one. They love toy toying here and striking. Everyone has the right to strike except essential services. It states so in the constitution. But what happens they start damaging property then they get shot in the face with rubber normally. Theres lots of videos on you-tube how they going and getting the shit shot out of them

Ah but here in the great state of Florida - America's Wang, the entirety of our labor laws (in other states these define things employers must do like - statutory requirements for meal breaks, standards of recordkeeping, the ability for employees to examine their own records, requirements to pay back earned vacation time, the need to notify a worker if their wage changes, etc. etc. etc) consists of a slightly greater than federal minimum wage - and a dept that handles discrimination. The outsourced provider of unemployment compensation has a few lines in the statutes too. That's it. We have nothing here in Florida, and even if we did, there is no department to enforce those laws. We have no dept of Labor. We are bound by the federal FLSA, and any federal labor laws that apply.

in short - Florida is an employers dream environment. They can and do go completely wild here.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Does it seem to anyone else that the posters accusing him of being racist seem to be more bigoted?

I can easily see the 2nd reply in response to the 1st disparaging his job, but the 3rd and 4th show explicit racism.

It was a critical reinterpretation of the meaning of what was said.

I had a professor once say "Asians are good at math and that's not a racist thing to say; they make good accountants"

... which is ridiculous because if Asians are good at math then, by implication everyone else is not inherently good at math! That any stereotypical thing is said about a particular race implies that those not in that race fail to live up to that stereotype as well.

In this case the racist comment was the propensity of white people to stand up for themselves in a law suit.... this, by implication means that those who fail the bigoted criteria also do not reflect the stereotype of being the savvy sort that would sue over major injury.

I did, though, use evocative wording as means of delineating the nature and depth of the negativity of the original comment.


yea... so WTF is toy toying?
 

Jaepheth

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Actually...

You're in Florida; your employer tells you you're out so in desperation you go to your friends in the government and IRA...

... maybe you could pitch that to a network as the premise for new a show.

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Humpy

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It was a critical reinterpretation of the meaning of what was said.

I had a professor once say "Asians are good at math and that's not a racist thing to say; they make good accountants"

... which is ridiculous because if Asians are good at math then, by implication everyone else is not inherently good at math! That any stereotypical thing is said about a particular race implies that those not in that race fail to live up to that stereotype as well.

In this case the racist comment was the propensity of white people to stand up for themselves in a law suit.... this, by implication means that those who fail the bigoted criteria also do not reflect the stereotype of being the savvy sort that would sue over major injury.

Saying "Asians are good at math" means nothing other than exactly that; two or more Asians are good at math. It doesn't necessarily include all Asians or exclude any other group and makes no claims about any math skills that exist or do not exist elsewhere. If one wants to find an implied meaning, they can, but it's subjective and illogical.

If I said "I have seven toes!" many would assume that implied I was deformed or had suffered an accident but they would be mistaken. All it means is that I indeed have some toes and they equal or are greater than seven in number. The toes could even be from some other persons feet.

If someone went to a pencil store and asked for 100 pencils the proprietor could answer back "I have 100 pencils!". She doesn't necessarily mean that she has only 100 pencils. She probably has thousands but she has at least 100.

Context is important but one shouldn't change the original intent of what was said because they believe there is an implication included.
 
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kyrax12

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I know this is OT but you really have to be good at math to be an accountant?

Last time I checked there weren't pre-calculus level problems in accounting.
 

Jaepheth

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I know this is OT but you really have to be good at math to be an accountant?

Last time I checked there weren't pre-calculus level problems in accounting.

There's a common misconception among the populace that math == arithmetic.
 

AlienCraft

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I'm betting that the op is a chick. or a trap. But with a name like Q. T. Nguyen, the odds are better than even.
 

PowerEngineer

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...I get paid $650 a week ... I get paid $350 check and 300 cash.

LOL! Nothing suspicious about that! :rolleyes:

And unless I've misread the thread, the OP is working as a manicurist without the license that is required by North Carolina and many other states.

Seems to me that legal scrutiny is the last thing that either you or your boss should be seeking.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Ah but here in the great state of Florida - America's Wang, the entirety of our labor laws (in other states these define things employers must do like - statutory requirements for meal breaks, standards of recordkeeping, the ability for employees to examine their own records, requirements to pay back earned vacation time, the need to notify a worker if their wage changes, etc. etc. etc) consists of a slightly greater than federal minimum wage - and a dept that handles discrimination. The outsourced provider of unemployment compensation has a few lines in the statutes too. That's it. We have nothing here in Florida, and even if we did, there is no department to enforce those laws. We have no dept of Labor. We are bound by the federal FLSA, and any federal labor laws that apply.

in short - Florida is an employers dream environment. They can and do go completely wild here.
Interesting now I know that thx. Who say you dont learn something new on the net everday.

But the different states each with its own laws. If one set of law covering both wouldnt it be better as to state to state? Surely it must cause some confusion especially someone traveling from state to state?
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Everyone knows all unions suck, except for Police and Fire. They are heroes. It should be the f'n Heroes Union. :colbert:

The fire department is the only department here where you dont see problems. You dont hear them moan. You dont see them catch kak on nada. When you see them in the news they busy fighting mountain fires and cutting cars open at accidents etc etc. I have huge respect for them.

Thing is in our constitution it says everyone has the right to strike. But you have to go through the correct procedure to make it legal. Thats where unions come in. As well as when your fired
 

bobdole369

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Interesting now I know that thx. Who say you dont learn something new on the net everday.

But the different states each with its own laws. If one set of law covering both wouldnt it be better as to state to state? Surely it must cause some confusion especially someone traveling from state to state?

The price we pay for not having to pay state income tax :p There IS a federal level set of rules, but not all companies need comply, and the rules they set are fairly tame. Typically state laws will only enhance the protections offered by the federal level, they rarely directly conflict.

Indeed it does cause some issues:
We had a fellow migrate from Soviet Michigan (lol picked that up in this thread) and Pennsylvania (where he went to college) - and his adjustment to a free-for-all was quite amusing. He was expecting a union, guaranteed raises, paid break times, completely subsidized healthcare, stock options, etc. He wasn't told any of this by our company he just expected it - as it was how things were in his manufacturing job in PA.