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Question about Verizon FiOS

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Schfifty Five

Lifer
So recently bought a house and will be moving in soon. The previous owners had Verizon FiOS as there is equipment installed on the side of the house and in the garage.

Currently, I'm using TWC in my apartment. I got a letter in the mail from Verizon welcoming me to my new home and that they were offering a special. Something like $54/mo for 2 yrs for 25/25 internet, custom TV, and phone. Not too shabby, probably would be like $75-80 after equipment rental fees and taxes.

I have never had FiOS before, so I have a couple of questions:

1. Do I need to use their wireless router?
2. I own my own cable modem. Is that not needed if I go with FiOS?
3. I might try and leverage this deal with TWC. Any advice on what to say to get a better deal? Is talking w/ a retentions rep the best way to go?

Thanks all.
 
1. No
2. They have their own equipment so your cable modem is not needed.
3. Never dealt with TWC so no idea but I love my FIOS.

The fiber comes into a box on the outside of your house that connects via a coax or ethernet cable to their router that has 4 ethernet ports and wireless built in. You can shut off the wireless if desired.
 
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I don't think you "need" to use their router, but I bought the Quantum router and it's actually pretty good (note that you have the option of paying like $9/month for it or buying it outright for $199)

I've had pretty mixed results with using my own modem/router, tbh. seems like any time I had a technical issue with Comcast, the first thing they blamed was me using a router the tech wasn't familiar with.
 
Linflas said:
1. No
2. They have their own equipment so your cable modem is not needed.
3. Never dealt with TWC so no idea but I love my FIOS.

The fiber comes into a box on the outside of your house that connects via a coax or ethernet cable to their router that has 4 ethernet ports and wireless built in. You can shut off the wireless if desired.
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loki8481 said:
I don't think you "need" to use their router, but I bought the Quantum router and it's actually pretty good (note that you have the option of paying like $9/month for it or buying it outright for $199)

I've had pretty mixed results with using my own modem/router, tbh. seems like any time I had a technical issue with Comcast, the first thing they blamed was me using a router the tech wasn't familiar with.
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Thanks for the replies. I too saw the option to pay $9.99/mo to rent their router, or pay $199 to own one. Seems ridiculous as I already own my own modem and router.
 
Linflas said:
Not sure what the "Quantum router" gets you over the standard one I have that cost me nothing.
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Are they giving out the Wireless N routers as standard? Back then, they were giving out the Wireless G and would not give out the wireless N so I had to purchased my own.
 
Mandatory to use their router and you can disable the wifi as its slow as a turtle.
I then bought the latest APPLE router. yeah I know its a pretty penny but 100% worth it!

Now my home wifi is super fast. Everything feels slow when directly plugged into the verizon router. #strange
 
inachu said:
Mandatory to use their router and you can disable the wifi as its slow as a turtle.
I then bought the latest APPLE router. yeah I know its a pretty penny but 100% worth it!

Now my home wifi is super fast. Everything feels slow when directly plugged into the verizon router. #strange
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if you're comparing the stock/default Verizon router to the AirPort, you're comparing wireless G or N (VZ, depending on how old the router is) to AC (APL)

if you're getting better speeds on wireless than hard-wired machines plugged directly into the router... then I'd think there's probably something wrong with the router, cables, or the computer's NIC.
 
loki8481 said:
if you're comparing the stock/default Verizon router to the AirPort, you're comparing wireless G or N (VZ, depending on how old the router is) to AC (APL)

if you're getting better speeds on wireless than hard-wired machines plugged directly into the router... then I'd think there's probably something wrong with the router, cables, or the computer's NIC.
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Nah its just the verizon hardware sucks. The wired 10/100 is dog slow but the internal cpu of the verizon router handles the apple router data just fine.

If you can not enter your verizon router then call them up and ask for someone there to reset the password remotely.

I disable the wifi and the built in firewall as I use the stuff that is in the Apple router instead.
 
inachu said:
Nah its just the verizon hardware sucks. The wired 10/100 is dog slow but the internal cpu of the verizon router handles the apple router data just fine.

If you can not enter your verizon router then call them up and ask for someone there to reset the password remotely.

I disable the wifi and the built in firewall as I use the stuff that is in the Apple router instead.
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sounds like you might have a particularly old/shitty router... even the low end Verizon models today are all 100/1000 wired
 
Cal166 said:
Are they giving out the Wireless N routers as standard? Back then, they were giving out the Wireless G and would not give out the wireless N so I had to purchased my own.
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As far as I know. I had one of the G ones and when guy came to install my mothers 2 years ago I asked what I needed to do to get N one for myself and he just handed me one off the truck. I still have the old G one sitting in my computer room.
 
My parents have a low-speed N one - faster than wireless G, but not really full N. On the other hand, they don't transfer anything intranetwork, so it's not a big deal.

You will likely need to use the routing function on the router they provide. The cable boxes use the router for pulling down tv programming information and VOD.
 
Having come from the deep, dark hole of what is TWC... I can tell you FiOS is amazing. I'm on the two year plan right now and have had to deal with their customer service once or twice and it was a breeze. I'm currently renting out their router and have had no issues. I wouldn't even bother trying to bring TWC down, it's not worth your time and effort. They'll just transfer you 85 times and make you wait on hold forever. Just go with FiOS - you won't look back.
 
i disabled everything about the verizon router except to get and give an ip.

everything runs off my nighthawk that is wired to it.
 
Turn off wireless on Verizon's router, it's awful. I use a Ubiquiti Unifi for wifi and have not had a single issue with range or reliability like I've with either with the Actiontek router's wireless or other routers in the past. I thought about getting one of the more expensive ac routers like the Nighthawk - I waited a long time for the price to come down, and it hasn't by much - but for $70 the Unifi is excellent. You can even get 3 of them for the same price as a Nighthawk.

And yes, FiOS is excellent. I pay for Quantum (75/75 plan) and get consistent 85mbps down, ~80mbps up. I don't think I've ever experienced downtime, either. If you live in an Optimum Online (Cablevision) area, though, they are pretty good for a cable company. Had them for years with no issues.
 
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inachu said:
Mandatory to use their router and you can disable the wifi as its slow as a turtle.
I then bought the latest APPLE router. yeah I know its a pretty penny but 100% worth it!

Now my home wifi is super fast. Everything feels slow when directly plugged into the verizon router. #strange
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I got the regular FIOS (I think it's N) router and the wifi would barely reach past half my house. A few months ago I bought the Archer C7 router which is AC ($90) to act as an access point (connected via CAT6 to the FIOS router) and now I have 50/50 wireless throughout. Beautiful thing. If you just want to keep it simple, go for buying the Quantum router. But you want that or any AC router at a minimum.
 
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