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question about UNEMPLOYMENT Benefits

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RushNBoi

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I work(ed) at a collection agency, and today they sent me into the office and told me that I am fired, because on Saturday someone was monitoring calls and I wasnt leaving messages on peoples answering machines. My boss told me not to even think about filing for unemployment and they will fight it.

Is that illegal to do, I was fired from the company and its not like I stole anything to get fired for it.

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Originally posted by: RushNBoi
I work(ed) at a collection agency, and today they sent me into the office and told me that I am fired, because on Saturday someone was monitoring calls and I wasnt leaving messages on peoples answering machines. My boss told me not to even think about filing for unemployment and they will fight it.

Is that illegal to do, I was fired from the company and its not like I stole anything to get fired for it.

Post your opinions
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I believe if you are fired you cannot claim enemployement. Only if you were "laid off".
 
i work for a company called NCO Financials that handles Fleet Visa/MC. We handle accounts that are 3 months delinquent. We are supposed to call ppl everyday and try to get them to pay or get onto a payment plan. If no-one pickes up phone your supposed to leave a message.
 
how long were you working for that company? im not sure if its the same in every state but in CA your unemployment benefits are determined from your previous last 4 full quarters, excluding your most recent full quarter. So if you just got laid off your benefit would be determined from your employment history from April 2002 through March of 2003.
 
Originally posted by: RushNBoi
i work for a company called NCO Financials that handles Fleet Visa/MC. We handle accounts that are 3 months delinquent. We are supposed to call ppl everyday and try to get them to pay or get onto a payment plan. If no-one pickes up phone your supposed to leave a message.
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why didnt you leave a message? it doesnt sound like it would be hard.
 
You can file for unemployment benefits, however, your claim may be denied because your employment was terminated for job performance/production reasons.
I strongly recommend that you file as you just might win. For example, if this was the first time that you had been reprimanded for not leaving messages, then they should not have fired you as standard employment guidelines require a 3 step process for termination for regular production issues (1. verbal warning 2. written warning 3. termination). So, if this was your first warning, then you will probably win (if you present your case properly). If this was not your first warning, and this had been an ongoing issue, then you will probably lose. Either way, your boss was in the wrong for telling you not to file. It is your right to file.
So go down to the employment office, file your claim (be careful how you fill it out -- get some good advice from a counselor there if you need it), and good luck. Be warned though, if your previous employer does dispute the claim, it could much longer to receive your benefits, possibly 2-3 months.
Either way, file. You have absolutely nothing to lose.
why didnt you leave a message? it doesnt sound like it would be hard.
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Heh... that part does make you wonder, doesn't it? The boss probably told him not to file because he knows he's a slacker loser who can't even do the simplest basics of his job.
btw, the collection agency has to leave messages to document their contact attempts. By not leaving messages, you were screwing up their government compliance and their contracts with the creditors they represent.
 
Involuntary termination is a criteria for collecting unemployment, but it varies, as each case is settled on an individual basis.

Check the Department of Labor and Workforce Development for your state; it should have information on how and when you can file for unemployment.

Note that if you were fired for "negligence" or "non-execution of job duties" your claim might be denied. You might want to prepare yourself for a fight or start job hunting NOW.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I always thought if you involuntarily left your job, ie got fired, laid off, you were entitled to unemployment.

Try here.
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If you are laid off. Yes. If you were fired, it's questionable. In most cases, you won't get unemployment benefit if you were fired for a good reason.
 
first off i posted this asking for advice and not to get dissed. Vic you dont know me so how can you talk sh!t about me saying im a slacker loser. I have been working there for 7 months and for the past few weeks was looking for a new job anyway. It doesnt sound hard leaving messages on answering machines but try doing that one after the other non-stop for over 200+ calls and saying the same thing over and over, it gets really boring. I am the type of person who needs something new and not just do repetitious things
 
Originally posted by: RushNBoi
first off i posted this asking for advice and not to get dissed. Vic you dont know me so how can you talk sh!t about me saying im a slacker loser. I have been working there for 7 months and for the past few weeks was looking for a new job anyway. It doesnt sound hard leaving messages on answering machines but try doing that one after the other non-stop for over 200+ calls and saying the same thing over and over, it gets really boring. I am the type of person who needs something new and not just do repetitious things
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Sounds like Vic was pretty much spot on.

You were paid to do a job in a particular way, you were blatantly ignoring the standards they set for your performance.

BTW, 7 months is nothing.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: RushNBoi
first off i posted this asking for advice and not to get dissed. Vic you dont know me so how can you talk sh!t about me saying im a slacker loser. I have been working there for 7 months and for the past few weeks was looking for a new job anyway. It doesnt sound hard leaving messages on answering machines but try doing that one after the other non-stop for over 200+ calls and saying the same thing over and over, it gets really boring. I am the type of person who needs something new and not just do repetitious things
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You should read the top part of my previous post. It was full of good advice. You're welcome for it.

A job is a job. If you don't like the job, quit. If you won't do the job and wait until you get fired, don't go crying with you don't get unemployment benefits. Either way, file and see if you don't get lucky. But don't expect me to feel sorry for you because you wouldn't do your job. I'm sure it was better than shoveling sh!t and people make a living doing that too.
 
BTW, one more thing...

Before you go tearing into members you might want to take a breather & watch how the forum operates.

Newbies so often fry themselves over stupid stuff, if you want to hang around for a while you'd best learn a few things.

Viper GTS
 
When are these cats gonna learn not to come to ATOT and admit that you:

a) committed a crime
b) got fired for doing something stupid
c) read above

????????????????????????????????

Each and everytime someone comes here to post about their day they robbed a house or they accidentally took home two Radeon 9800 pros etc they get flamed. I guess the newbies will never learn the internet.
 
Don't know if this is true or not, but I had heard that if the company does dispute your claim and win, then the reason you were fired will be on your record. This will effect you when companies you apply for do a back ground check on you. I heard that at my job, but they could be saying that to scare people from filing for unemployment.
 
Originally posted by: josphII
how long were you working for that company? im not sure if its the same in every state but in CA your unemployment benefits are determined from your previous last 4 full quarters, excluding your most recent full quarter. So if you just got laid off your benefit would be determined from your employment history from April 2002 through March of 2003.
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And it will not be available to him if they contest the claim and win the State Referee's decision.
Been there, done that. Lions 1 Christians 0 ......
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Originally posted by: Ludacris
Don't know if this is true or not, but I had heard that if the company does dispute your claim and win, then the reason you were fired will be on your record. This will effect you when companies you apply for do a back ground check on you. I heard that at my job, but they could be saying that to scare people from filing for unemployment.
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Not true. I'm not even sure where to begin but that is total BS.
The only real risk of losing an unemployment claim is that you may have been awarded temporary benefits while your claim was in the process of being decided, and that those benefits would then have to repaid if your claim was eventually denied. Otherwise, there is NO risk in filing for unemployment benefits, regardless of the reason for termination (unless you voluntarily quit, and then filing would just be a stupid waste of time).

So... unless you quit of your own accord, ALWAYS file, never let anyone tell you otherwise -- 'nuff said.
 
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