Question about the Celeron on Intel's 815 motherboards

[JackHawksmoor]

I'm giving up on my Athlon 1Ghz on Asus A7V. I think I'm going to replace it with an Intel board based on their 815 chipset, and probably a 733mhz Celeron. So question about that. I know the Celeron is stuck with a 66mhz FSB, but can you still run the memory at 133mhz? Or is it stuck at 66mhz too?

Also, do the OEM processors come with a fan/heatsink, or only the boxed retail processors? Necx's site is very unclear as to whether their processors are OEM or retail.

Also, is there much of an advantage to going with a Pentium 3 over the Celeron? I've found a boxed Celeron 733 for $100 from a reputable (I think) place, while the P3's at 800+ are more like $250+. The current Celeron's just have half the cache, and the crippled FSB, but otherwise are identical, right (they have SSE, etc.)?

Oh, that question goes for the P3 also-can you run a 100mhz FSB version while clocking the memory at 133mhz?

 

[Broadkipa]

I can help you with one of your questions that is the memory speed.
I have a Abit SE6e motherboard which uses the 815e chipset and I am running a celeron 566MHz on the 66Mhz FSB, but the 133Mhz 128 Meg Dimm is running at 100MHz. with this board you cant run memory at 133Mhz on a 66MHz FSB.I would think the Asus would be the same.I am using 133MHz memory so that when I upgrade to a faster CPU and Faster FSB I wont have to buy more memory.

 

[JackHawksmoor]

Huh. Okay, well I already own PC-133 RAM, and I'd like to get the most performance out of it, so I guess that means I should stick with a Pentium 3.

Can anyone answer the OEM/Retail question?

 

[Slapstick]

With OEM processors you have to buy the heatsink and fan seperate, on retail they include a heatsink and fan. I believe Necx only sells retail processors.

To answer another of your question thes Celeron Processors, besides running on a 66 FSB and only having 1/2 the cache also have a higher cache latency than the PIII's making them perform somewhat slower than a PIII at the same speed.

 

[office boy]

WOW a trade from a 1ghz T-bird to a 733 Celeron...

You want to sell your Tbird?

 

[JackHawksmoor]

Thanks Slapstick! If NECx's stuff's all retail, maybe I'll just grab this from them. They've got Intel's own 815 board for $120ish + $250ish for an 866mhz P3. I know you can do better price wise, but supposedly NECx is reputable.

 

[office boy]

<<They've got Intel's own 815 board for $120ish >>
Have fun overclocking

 

[JackHawksmoor]

I have absolutly zero interest in overclocking.

 

[LXi]

MicroStar 815E Pro will best suit you.

 

[office boy]

Hope you enjoy that celeron performance then

BTW what are you doing with your A7V and Tbird?

 

[JackHawksmoor]

Eh, I'm sticking with Intel, and a P3 so I can get the most performance out of my RAM.

The motherboard/processor? I'll probably have fun smashing them up.

 

[LXi]

I hope you enjoy that Celeron 800 price tag too, yea it finally has 100MHz front side bus, but it cost more than a Tbird 1.1GHz. That is hillarious, I laughed for like an hour.

 

[JackHawksmoor]

Again LXi, it is NOT hilarious if the AMD choice IS NOT 100% STABLE! Who cares if they're given out for free, if the Intel chipsets and CPUs work while the AMD/VIA ones are flaky?

 

[office boy]

JackHawksmoor, Let me smash them...
I'll even give you some $$'s
help take the sting off that intel system
I'm serious, email me.

 

[LXi]

Im sorry, just because you're unable of getting it to work right doesnt translate to flakiness on VIA's part.