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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
No one can tell you "shift at XXXX rpms" - it depends on the car. Like was mentioned - listen to the engine, and stop staring at your bloody tach before you rear-end someone. :p

- M4H

lol :D well it's an AUDI, so it's so quiet inside i can't hear the engine sound :D
 

ElFenix

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its generally illegal to just run around in neutral
 

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since this thread is a car thread, i didnt fell it was necessary to open another one to ask this. for the last 10 days, I am hearing this weird sound coming from the gas pedal or something. it happens when i release my foot from the gas pedal, i dont know how to explain the sound but as i said it's a sound that happens after i release my foot from the gas pedal and it lasts for like 1,5 - 2 seconds. any idea what might cause this? my car is a 1999 audi a4 1.8t with manual transmission.
 
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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
No one can tell you "shift at XXXX rpms" - it depends on the car. Like was mentioned - listen to the engine, and stop staring at your bloody tach before you rear-end someone. :p

- M4H

lol :D well it's an AUDI, so it's so quiet inside i can't hear the engine sound :D

So turn down your radio and listen closer. IMHO, there's no damn car in the world quiet enough to totally mask its own engine noise. And if there is, you'd probably hear a "Crash" when you merge into the side of a passing Dodge whose horn was also muffled. :p

Give it time. After awhile, you'll be able to feel and not so much hear where you've got to shift.

- M4H
 

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i guess you are right ;) well i bet that maybach's are pretty damn quiet inside :p
 

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Originally posted by: Dari
how hard is it to put your car in reverse when you're doing 50 mph, or even a 100? or is it like putting it into first gear when you do anything over 4 mph, next to impossible?



im 99% sure all stick stift cars have an interlock to physically prevents you from doing that.
 

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Give it time. After awhile, you'll be able to feel and not so much hear where you've got to shift.


Yeah...I don't even listen by engine noise anymore I just go by "the feel" of everything from POS muffler to the shake on the steering wheel and gas pedal.

 

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Originally posted by: Xiety
since this thread is a car thread, i didnt fell it was necessary to open another one to ask this. for the last 10 days, I am hearing this weird sound coming from the gas pedal or something. it happens when i release my foot from the gas pedal, i dont know how to explain the sound but as i said it's a sound that happens after i release my foot from the gas pedal and it lasts for like 1,5 - 2 seconds. any idea what might cause this? my car is a 1999 audi a4 1.8t with manual transmission.

so noone knows the answer for this question :Q ?
 

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Originally posted by: Xiety
since this thread is a car thread, i didnt fell it was necessary to open another one to ask this. for the last 10 days, I am hearing this weird sound coming from the gas pedal or something. it happens when i release my foot from the gas pedal, i dont know how to explain the sound but as i said it's a sound that happens after i release my foot from the gas pedal and it lasts for like 1,5 - 2 seconds. any idea what might cause this? my car is a 1999 audi a4 1.8t with manual transmission.

does it sound like an airy hissing noise? if so its just the blow off valve and is normal

Originally posted by: Xiety

Well it's a 1999 Audi A4 1.8T with 180 hp but i got a stage 1 upgrade to 225 hp. The redline starts at 6,000 rpm and the highest RPM level shown is 7,000 but it has the same amount of space under after 7,000 (same amount of redline between 6k rpm and 7rpm).

dont waste your car's potential shift at 7000rpm :p



Originally posted by: no0b
Originally posted by: Syringer
Might waste a little extra gas leaving it at higher RPM's, but otherwise you should be fine.

wouldn't it use the same amount of gas as if it were idleing? Since no gas is being applied and if gas was being applied by the computer the car wouldn't decelarate (SP? its too late to care about spelling)

i believe on modern cars with fuel injection , with no throttle input (deceleration in gear), the engine fires once per every strokes or cycles. so it does use some gas, but not much
 

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Originally posted by: bigshot
ok ive been drivin stick for about 2 years now but i got a quick simple question about revvin the engine.
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i move out of first and hit second revvin around 2000, i then floor it and bring my revs to 5000 but i see a stop sign ahead and i dont feel like shifting to third so is it bad to let the car rev back down to 2000.usually i would just throw it in Neutral but is it bad for the transmission to be revved to say 5000 then just let go and rev back to 2000 without braking etc.

in sweden you don't get your license if you don't engine brake when slowing down
 

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Originally posted by: bigshot
ok ive been drivin stick for about 2 years now but i got a quick simple question about revvin the engine.
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i move out of first and hit second revvin around 2000, i then floor it and bring my revs to 5000 but i see a stop sign ahead and i dont feel like shifting to third so is it bad to let the car rev back down to 2000.usually i would just throw it in Neutral but is it bad for the transmission to be revved to say 5000 then just let go and rev back to 2000 without braking etc.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
its generally illegal to just run around in neutral

I dunno if it is illegal but will second another post saying it is stupid. A basic tenet of stick shift driving is that when the car is moving it should never be in neutral, except for that very short period when changing gears. When you press the clutch or coast in neutral the vehicle is no longer under your control.

It is perfectly fine to leave the car in gear while slowing down from 5000 rpm. You only press the clutch when real slow to prevent engine stall - that is moments before the car comes to complete stop and you are already applying the brakes.


 

jlee

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Everybody said it already, but yeah..it's not going to hurt anything.

Going to redline (not constantly, but just in general) shouldn't hurt the engine either -- I redline at 6000rpm with a limiter at ~6200, IIRC..redline is the manufacturer's recommended max rpm. It's not the "Touch this and die" point.
 

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: Shockwave
What no0b said. its engine braking, semi's do it alot going downhills and whatnot.


Semi's use Jacob's Brakes to decelerate going downhill.

for those that do not know, Jacob brakes are exaust brakes. they basicly close off the exaust so no exaust can escape (gross oversimplifacation, but relitively acurate) which increases piston pressure which improves engine braking.


Jeez, don't you guys ever Google before you start posting this stuff.

First off, it's usually called a "Jake Brake", not Jacob although the officiall name is "Jacob Engine Brake". Here are the details:
Jake Brake

What the Jake Brake does is open the exhaust during the compression stroke, not close it. That way it turns the engine into an air compressor. Since there compression energy is completely lost and doesn't force the piston back down on the power stroke (even without fuel, this will happen without the Jake). Therefore, engine braking is greatly enhanced.

You can tell a driver has hit the Jake because of the incredibly loud exhaust noise. It's illegal to use a Jake within a lot of municipalities.

 

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Everybody said it already, but yeah..it's not going to hurt anything.

Going to redline (not constantly, but just in general) shouldn't hurt the engine either -- I redline at 6000rpm with a limiter at ~6200, IIRC..redline is the manufacturer's recommended max rpm. It's not the "Touch this and die" point.

that's what i was thinking too about redlines, thanks.