Question about Star Trek Generations and "The Nexus"

[kaymin]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: kaymin

Originally posted by: yllus
I think the idea is The Nexus is so wonderfully great, nobody would ever want to leave it. Except for Picard, whose loyalty to his crew forced him to return. The Nexus, being wonderful, allowed him the power to do anything he wanted. Only out of stupidity did the guy decide to return to reality at the time he did.

I guess it's the same reason why everyone from star fleet doens't just sit in the holodeck all day.

Well, they have "duties" like standing behind Picard and taking orders and stuff...like scanning for lifeforms...

Lifeforms,
You tiny little lifeforms,
You precious little lifeforms,
Where are you?

Lol. Someone like Geordi could probably easily build a holodeck for their own personal use. But I guess it's the realization that none of it is real, including the nexus. But the nexus was supposed to be more like a drug addiction than just a place. I guess cuz Picard is the man, as usual!

I just *love* scanning for life forms!

 

[element]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

You broke my brain.

that's what happens when the blind lead the blind. Picard did leave the Nexus.

ok I'll babble on a bit more. The nexus makes whatever you want happen, since it's supposed to make you happy. What he wished for was to leave the nexus and it granted him that "wish"

I thought that the Nexus granted whatever wish you wanted WITHIN the Nexus. The Nexus is an entity meaning that Picard was swallowed up by it. Picard was moving along with the Nexus as it left the planet. While Picard is babbling on with Kirk about what's real or not, the Nexus is still moving along.

For the Nexus to grant Picard his wish, it would have to transport him back to the planet using some sort of transporter wave or something. But how is this possible for the Nexus to be in two places at once or transport Picard back in time outside of itself?

It would have to be done within the Nexus, hence his wish was granted within the space of the Nexus...

if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

here's a thought....why not just "wish" the nexus to take care of sorin and destory all the evil doers (borg, romulan, etc...) and make the entire universe peaceful or something?

I guess the answer is the Nexus can only "take you wherever you want to go" but not do much else. But I don't know, it's science fiction and i didn't write the story

To those that asked which episode it was, it's not an episode of TNG. It's the movie Star Trek: Generations

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: element
if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

The Nexus destroyed the ships and the planet b/c the wave itself touched those items when it passed through. It actually passed through matter

 

[element]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element
if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

The Nexus destroyed the ships and the planet b/c the wave itself touched those items when it passed through. It actually passed through matter

Yeah but if the Nexus didn't transport Picard back in time to the planet before Sorin's launch, then Picard would never have affected all the other events following that. He saw the Nexus miss the planet, that wouldn't have happened if all those events hadn't taken place the way they did.

And since he stopped the nexus from going through the planet, then he couldn't have ever entered the Nexus in the first place. But he did, earlier, in another time frame. It could be argued every decision you make spawns a new timeline and a new space time contiuum, in order to make time travel in reverse possible. But that's delving into philosphy now and is not based on any real scientific observations thus far.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element
if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

The Nexus destroyed the ships and the planet b/c the wave itself touched those items when it passed through. It actually passed through matter

Yeah but if the Nexus didn't transport Picard back in time to the planet before Sorin's launch, then Picard would never have affected all the other events following that. He saw the Nexus miss the planet, that wouldn't have happened if all those events hadn't taken place the way they did.

And since he stopped the nexus from going through the planet, then he couldn't have ever entered the Nexus in the first place. But he did, earlier, in another time frame. It could be argued every decision you make spawns a new timeline and a new space time contiuum, in order to make time travel in reverse possible. But that's delving into philosphy now and is not based on any real scientific observations thus far.

But what if the Nexus didn't transport him back at all and he was living an alternate reality INSIDE the Nexus and simply THOUGHT that he went back in time to stop the Nexus from going through the planet in the first place?

 

[element]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element
if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

The Nexus destroyed the ships and the planet b/c the wave itself touched those items when it passed through. It actually passed through matter

Yeah but if the Nexus didn't transport Picard back in time to the planet before Sorin's launch, then Picard would never have affected all the other events following that. He saw the Nexus miss the planet, that wouldn't have happened if all those events hadn't taken place the way they did.

And since he stopped the nexus from going through the planet, then he couldn't have ever entered the Nexus in the first place. But he did, earlier, in another time frame. It could be argued every decision you make spawns a new timeline and a new space time contiuum, in order to make time travel in reverse possible. But that's delving into philosphy now and is not based on any real scientific observations thus far.

But what if the Nexus didn't transport him back at all and he was living an alternate reality INSIDE the Nexus and simply THOUGHT that he went back in time to stop the Nexus from going through the planet in the first place?

That would be plausible if it were not for the description of the Nexus as being 100% joy, and the events following were not 100% joyful, Kirk even died trying to get the controller.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: element
if that were so, then he would not have been able to stop Sorin, or transfer back to that planet or any of that stuff. Remember the nexus destroyed those ships also so it does affect things outside of itself.

The Nexus destroyed the ships and the planet b/c the wave itself touched those items when it passed through. It actually passed through matter

Yeah but if the Nexus didn't transport Picard back in time to the planet before Sorin's launch, then Picard would never have affected all the other events following that. He saw the Nexus miss the planet, that wouldn't have happened if all those events hadn't taken place the way they did.

And since he stopped the nexus from going through the planet, then he couldn't have ever entered the Nexus in the first place. But he did, earlier, in another time frame. It could be argued every decision you make spawns a new timeline and a new space time contiuum, in order to make time travel in reverse possible. But that's delving into philosphy now and is not based on any real scientific observations thus far.

But what if the Nexus didn't transport him back at all and he was living an alternate reality INSIDE the Nexus and simply THOUGHT that he went back in time to stop the Nexus from going through the planet in the first place?

That would be plausible if it were not for the description of the Nexus as being 100% joy, and the events following were not 100% joyful, Kirk even died trying to get the controller.

Ahh drats!

 

[element]

:beer: for tryin.