Question about Star Trek Generations and "The Nexus"

[NFS4]

If Captain Picard got sucked into the Nexus with Soron, then wouldn't every thing that happened after the fact be a figment of whatever he was dreaming up while in the Nexus...meaning everything from that point on in the Star Trek continuom?

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: NFS4
If Captain Picard got sucked into the Nexus with Soron, then wouldn't every thing that happened after the fact be a figment of whatever he was dreaming up while in the Nexus...meaning everything from that point on in the Star Trek continuom?

Didn't they somehow break out of the nexus?

 

[MisterCornell]

Yes, Picard and Kirk left it together after the former convinced the latter that it was all fake and not worthwhile.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: NFS4
If Captain Picard got sucked into the Nexus with Soron, then wouldn't every thing that happened after the fact be a figment of whatever he was dreaming up while in the Nexus...meaning everything from that point on in the Star Trek continuom?

Didn't they somehow break out of the nexus?

But how? I thought that Picard said that he "needed some help" so he goes to get Captain Kirk. Then they go back to stop Soron and redirect the "wave," but wouldn't all of that still be a part of Picard's Nexus?

 

[Wallydraigle]

I never got why he didn't come out a few days earlier and save his nephew and arrest Sauron (sorry, had to) before anyone died. Picard is just a drama queen that way I guess.

 

[Kntx]

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
I never got why he didn't come out a few days earlier and save his nephew and arrest Sauron (sorry, had to) before anyone died. Picard is just a drama queen that way I guess.

That wouldn't make for a very interesting movie.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: MisterCornell
Yes, Picard and Kirk left it together after the former convinced the latter that it was all fake and not worthwhile.

So if they were convinced that the Nexus was fake, then how were they able to go back BEFORE Soren was able to launch the rocket?

In other words, Picard enters the Nexus then exits the Nexus in the past instead of exiting in the present.

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: MisterCornell
Yes, Picard and Kirk left it together after the former convinced the latter that it was all fake and not worthwhile.

So if they were convinced that the Nexus was fake, then how were they able to go back BEFORE Soren was able to launch the rocket?

In other words, Picard enters the Nexus then exits the Nexus in the past instead of exiting in the present.

Because time has no meaning there. Because Whoopi said so.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: MisterCornell
Yes, Picard and Kirk left it together after the former convinced the latter that it was all fake and not worthwhile.

So if they were convinced that the Nexus was fake, then how were they able to go back BEFORE Soren was able to launch the rocket?

In other words, Picard enters the Nexus then exits the Nexus in the past instead of exiting in the present.

Because time has no meaning there. Because Whoopi said so.

Time has no meaning WITHIN the Nexus, but not outside the Nexus

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

Which was the intent of my OP. Picard is still in the Nexus as is everything from that point on in the Star Trek universe

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

You broke my brain.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

You broke my brain.

LOL:beer:

 

[element]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

You broke my brain.

that's what happens when the blind lead the blind. Picard did leave the Nexus.

ok I'll babble on a bit more. The nexus makes whatever you want happen, since it's supposed to make you happy. What he wished for was to leave the nexus and it granted him that "wish"

 

[Dedpuhl]

If a mystical ribbon can carry people away to wherever they want to be (within the Nexus), I don't see why it can't send them through time when they decide to leave...

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

What I think you should be worried about is how they saw the sun get destroyed the instand the rocket hit it

 

[yllus]

I think the idea is The Nexus is so wonderfully great, nobody would ever want to leave it. Except for Picard, whose loyalty to his crew forced him to return. The Nexus, being wonderful, allowed him the power to do anything he wanted. Only out of stupidity did the guy decide to return to reality at the time he did.

 

[Kelemvor]

Thats the whole thing I never got was exactly how they got out of the nexsua dn how they happened to come out right where they were and at that specific time instead of a day earlier or something like that.

Ah well, it's Science Fiction so I guess that's just that way it goes.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Picard never left the Nexus, he just thinks he did.

You broke my brain.

that's what happens when the blind lead the blind. Picard did leave the Nexus.

ok I'll babble on a bit more. The nexus makes whatever you want happen, since it's supposed to make you happy. What he wished for was to leave the nexus and it granted him that "wish"

I thought that the Nexus granted whatever wish you wanted WITHIN the Nexus. The Nexus is an entity meaning that Picard was swallowed up by it. Picard was moving along with the Nexus as it left the planet. While Picard is babbling on with Kirk about what's real or not, the Nexus is still moving along.

For the Nexus to grant Picard his wish, it would have to transport him back to the planet using some sort of transporter wave or something. But how is this possible for the Nexus to be in two places at once or transport Picard back in time outside of itself?

It would have to be done within the Nexus, hence his wish was granted within the space of the Nexus...

 

[Koing]

Are you guys talking about TNG or the film with Captain Kirk?

Koing

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Koing
Are you guys talking about TNG or the film with Captain Kirk?

Koing

Both. It's the Star Trek movie with The Next Generation Crew and Captain Kirk

 

[Koing]

I see NFS4.

When did they go in to the Nexus? I remember watch bits of TNG when it is on and think it is good

Koing

 

[kaymin]

Originally posted by: Koing
I see NFS4.

When did they go in to the Nexus? I remember watch bits of TNG when it is on and think it is good

Koing

Picard got sent to the nexus when he tried to stop Sauron from firing the missle at the planet to divert the nexus to their coordinates. He failed without Kirk the first time.

 

[kaymin]

Originally posted by: yllus
I think the idea is The Nexus is so wonderfully great, nobody would ever want to leave it. Except for Picard, whose loyalty to his crew forced him to return. The Nexus, being wonderful, allowed him the power to do anything he wanted. Only out of stupidity did the guy decide to return to reality at the time he did.

I guess it's the same reason why everyone from star fleet doens't just sit in the holodeck all day.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: kaymin

Originally posted by: yllus
I think the idea is The Nexus is so wonderfully great, nobody would ever want to leave it. Except for Picard, whose loyalty to his crew forced him to return. The Nexus, being wonderful, allowed him the power to do anything he wanted. Only out of stupidity did the guy decide to return to reality at the time he did.

I guess it's the same reason why everyone from star fleet doens't just sit in the holodeck all day.

Well, they have "duties" like standing behind Picard and taking orders and stuff...like scanning for lifeforms...

Lifeforms,
You tiny little lifeforms,
You precious little lifeforms,
Where are you?