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Question about stalled car - Update New Civic fuse box melts, design flaw

dullard

dullard

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I've driven old, unreliable cars for years and I figured stalls were just a part of life with them (especially on cold winter days). However I now drive a 2002 Honda Civic - and hoped to see the end of problems like that. However my wife just had it stall out on her yesterday (a hot summer day). I know very little about cars. I need to take it on an out of town business trip Sunday where I will have many deadlines and no time for car troubles. Honda service is booked all week. Should I:
A) Ignore the stall as a fluke and enjoy my car as it should be quite reliable.
B) A stall is a minor problem (possibly an idle speed that is too low, or some other simple problem), take the car on the trip, and don't bother to bring it in until its next oil change.
C) A stall is a sign of a major problem, and take the car in as early during the day as possible hoping that they can slip it in between their appointments. Don't take it on an out-of-town trip until the stall is fixed.

Update: See my post below, the service people make it sound big. What do you think?
 
Actually, I would ignore the problem unless it persists.
when my car was new it happened twice in about 20,000 kms time.
now it doesn't happen at all anymore.

just go with it for a little while and see if it happens again

any other quirks or problems though?
 
any other quirks or problems though?
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Everything was perfect except one odd occurance. Right after my second oil change, the air conditioner didn't work very well for about 3 hours (it only had half the normal gas velocity). It then kicked in perfectly and I've seen nothing else show any visible sign and I took that as a fluke.
 
Was the A/C on ?

I would not worry too much about it.
The 2002 Honda has OBD II (On Board Diagnostics,second generation),which has proven pretty reliable,even if the vehicle had a major problem (Bad sensor,ECM failure),it would still get you home in "Limp" mode.
 
Most likely the A/C compressor put such a load on the engine (Very Hot weather) that the ECM could not react in time to keep the engine from stalling.

(The ECM constantly adjusts the idle,mixture,emissions ETC.)

this is only a guess,without hooking up a Mastertech Diagnostic reader,there is no sure way of knowing what the real problem is.

I would be concerned unless it is a consistant problem 🙂
 
$#@%@#$%@#

I begged Honda to check it anyways, and they said they would try to fit it in today. They just called saying that they have been working intensively with their national tech support on some problem. They needed to find my wife ASAP to ask her details about the stall. They are renting me a vehicle since they are air shipping in parts and said that they need to install the parts the minute they arrive. It is some problem about fuses - which doesn't sound to important to me, but they are making it sound like a big deal. They didn't elaborate too much though. I know little about cars, but this is scaring me a bit. We purchased the Civic due to is reliable history - I certainly don't need a lemon.
 
We purchased the Civic due to is reliable history - I certainly don't need a lemon.
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The 2001-02 Civic is a new redesign, so it's understandable that they haven't worked out all the kinks. I've had mine for 5 months now and not the slightest problem thus far, but there are people who have their fair share of problems, even with older, more reliable civics.
You may want to check the forums at

7thgencivic.com where you may also find some good information.
 
The 2001-02 Civic is a new redesign, so it's understandable that they haven't worked out all the kinks.
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Yeah I realize that. Consumer Reports showed the preliminary data on the new redesign had a lot higher failure rate than previous Civics. Of course that came out 4 months after we bought it. I just hope this isn't a sign of major electrical problems.

 
Originally posted by: dullard
$#@%@#$%@#

I begged Honda to check it anyways, and they said they would try to fit it in today. They just called saying that they have been working intensively with their national tech support on some problem. They needed to find my wife ASAP to ask her details about the stall. They are renting me a vehicle since they are air shipping in parts and said that they need to install the parts the minute they arrive. It is some problem about fuses - which doesn't sound to important to me, but they are making it sound like a big deal. They didn't elaborate too much though. I know little about cars, but this is scaring me a bit. We purchased the Civic due to is reliable history - I certainly don't need a lemon.
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Fuses=electricity=fire=recall=lawsuit=it is a major problem to Honda.

 
Fuses=electricity=fire=recall=lawsuit=it is a major problem to Honda.
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New info has come in. I'll add a bit to your equation:

Design problem=All 2001 and 2002 Civics are affected=Fuses=...=it is a major problem to Honda.

Basically the fuse box melts - it is too close to the engine and overheats. Significant numbers of these problems have been seen in 2001 models, and now the 2002 models are popping up. I'm not sure if they can replace the whole fuse box with something that won't melt - or if they will have to move it to a cooler location.
 
Basically the fuse box melts - it is too close to the engine and overheats. Significant numbers of these problems have been seen in 2001 models, and now the 2002 models are popping up. I'm not sure if they can replace the whole fuse box with something that won't melt - or if they will have to move it to a cooler location.
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Grrrrreat....hope they don't do one of those "secret recalls" they've been known to do.
And I hope mine doesn't have this problem 🙂
 
Yeah I've gotten a free rental car and the repairs are free. But if it is a design problem, they cannot simply replace the fuse box - they need to fix the design error. I'm not positive yet if Honda has a solution that is guaranteed to work. So instead I think they are just replacing it with another fuse box that will melt again later - meaning future repairs.
 
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