Question about Spider-Man movie and Peter Parker's identity

[NFS4]

I was just watching the DVD and at the wrestling match, Peter competes as Spider-Man (albeit in that crappy ninja-looking costume). Everyone see his strength and flexibility and web-shooting skills.

Then after the match, he walks to collect his money WITHOUT his mask on. The crooked manager sees him w/o the mask as does the security guard. The mugger did too, but he's dead.

Is this an error in the movie or I am just looking too deeply?

 

[rayma2]

hmmm it could be a error. Never noticed it before.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

What's wrong with seeing him without his mask? Those people just didn't come forward or whatever or maybe just didn't put the idea together later that they were the same person. After all, those people see a lot of guys come in and out of those fights. When you hear name after name after name and face after face after face, they all start to run together and you make it a point not to remember them all so you don't go insane.

nik

 

[hdeck]

i'm pretty sure the whole wrestling thing was shady anyway. he was paying in cash, so it's not like a definate fact that the guy knew his name. i mean, even when he went up to the lady, he didn't have to even sign a waiver, just verbally agree.

 

[Ornery]

The crooked manager may not have his real name and address etc.

That movie was OK up to a point, but I was unable to suspend disbelief after a while. God, holding the weight of that cable car and all... too bad, I liked it well enough, but it went way too far in the end. I wasn't ready for that, based on how it started out.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
What's wrong with seeing him without his mask? Those people just didn't come forward or whatever or maybe just didn't put the idea together later that they were the same person. After all, those people see a lot of guys come in and out of those fights. When you hear name after name after name and face after face after face, they all start to run together and you make it a point not to remember them all so you don't go insane.

nik

How could he forget the "puny little guy" that OWNED Bone Saw, the same guy that he tried to cheat out of $2,900, the same guy that let $3,000 walk out the building by way of a robber, the same guy that got in his face and talked junk to him when he asked why he didn't stop the robber.

I don't think he'd forget him Then the next day he starts making the papers...

But I'm mainly talking about facial recognition here...not so much his real name.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Ornery
The crooked manager may not have his real name and address etc.

That movie was OK up to a point, but I was unable to suspend disbelief after a while. God, holding the weight of that cable car and all... too bad, I liked it well enough, but it went way too far in the end. I wasn't ready for that, based on how it started out.

He DOES have superhuman strength. If you follow the comics, you should know that he would be able to do things like that, if not for prolonged periods of time. He's got extra strength, but he ain't the hulk. I liked the movie. They could have done it so much better though.

<== monkey dance

EDIT: Also, he lives in manhantten, how likely is it that the wrestling guy gonna run into Peter Parker again? Even if he somehow made the connection, he'd probably go, "naah, couldn't be."

 

[Ornery]

I LOVE good sci-fi, but never got into comics. Seems pretty damn strange that these guys can stop a train, yet some far lesser blow sends them reeling. Stuff like that bugs me.

I appreciate when a writer goes the extra mile to make something totally unbelievable... BELIEVABLE! That's the art and skill not seen often. Godzilla is a good example. For some reason it was only so-so overall, but they covered all their bases on explanations and physical limitations.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

These are the same people who made up the idea that:

Glasses on: Clark Kent
Glasses off: Superman

Get over it

 

[LordMaul]

One thing I never understood...

Where did he get his costume? I've heard it talked about yet never heard it completely answered. Some people say he "spun" it...but how the hell did he get the different colors, everything to be so perfect, plastic-y "web" outlines, eye lenses, etc. etc.? One second he draws a picture, the next he flying around NY in the new get-up.

Also, how does he fly around NY like that? It shows him swinging on one line of web straight down the middle of the street in several occasions, yet at the angle he would have had to have the web attached to something would have been STRAIGHT UP to get at that angle! And does his web retract? If not, with all the web he's been shooting, why don't people have a bunch of it, or people analyzing it? And if it retracts, how does he keep shooting it out so quickly one after another? Where the #@)*&$ does he have all this web material?!

And last but not least...if he really DID turn into a spider, he's be swinging around NY not by his wrists/hands, but shooting it out his ass. EDIT: That would be funny. Peter Parker in the cafeteria room at school...leans over to fart discretely...pfffttsssssst. Peter gets up and his ass is stuck to the bench! MWAUHAHAHAHAHAHA! or...not...

 

[Wingznut]

Isn't part of enjoying a movie the fact that you lose touch with reality and accept that some things "just are"?

How can you possibly enjoy any movie, if you spend the 100 minutes dissecting every detail??? (Directed towards everyone, not just NFS4.)

 

[Ornery]

"...not by his wrists/hands, but shooting it out his ass."

• • • LOL

Edit: "How can you possibly enjoy any movie, if you spend the 100 minutes dissecting every detail?"

The trouble is, it only takes a few screw ups to slap me out of it. Then it just bugs me, because the aura is ruined. You know, it seems BatMan did pretty well with these kinds of problems. Maybe there were mistakes, but I managed to miss them. I liked BatMan quite a bit.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Isn't part of enjoying a movie the fact that you lose touch with reality and accept that some things "just are"?

How can you possibly enjoy any movie, if you spend the 100 minutes dissecting every detail??? (Directed towards everyone, not just NFS4.)

I saw the movie once in the theatre and enjoyed it. I watched it once last night and enjoyed it again. My friend wanted to watch it again this morning so THEN I began dissecting it. Happy now?

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: LordMaul
One thing I never understood...

Where did he get his costume? I've heard it talked about yet never heard it completely answered. Some people say he "spun" it...but how the hell did he get the different colors, everything to be so perfect, plastic-y "web" outlines, eye lenses, etc. etc.? One second he draws a picture, the next he flying around NY in the new get-up.

Also, how does he fly around NY like that? It shows him swinging on one line of web straight down the middle of the street in several occasions, yet at the angle he would have had to have the web attached to something would have been STRAIGHT UP to get at that angle! And does his web retract? If not, with all the web he's been shooting, why don't people have a bunch of it, or people analyzing it? And if it retracts, how does he keep shooting it out so quickly one after another? Where the #@)*&$ does he have all this web material?!

And last but not least...if he really DID turn into a spider, he's be swinging around NY not by his wrists/hands, but shooting it out his ass. EDIT: That would be funny. Peter Parker in the cafeteria room at school...leans over to fart discretely...pfffttsssssst. Peter gets up and his ass is stuck to the bench! MWAUHAHAHAHAHAHA! or...not...

Some of these I can answer (used to be a comic book collector, and some of it's from there). Spidey made his costume. I think you have to suspend disbelief for the lenses and such, but the main part he made with a good old sewing machine.

The straight on web-swinging I think you just have to accept. As for why people don't have his webbing, in the comics it's a chemical formula which he makes, not in his body, but mechanically. And it dissolves after a period of time (I assume the movie made his webs organic but kept the dissolving part). As for where he keeps it all, real spiders are pretty damn small and they never seem to run out of webbing, so I would assume that he wouldn't either.

 

[AUMM]

And last but not least...if he really DID turn into a spider, he's be swinging around NY not by his wrists/hands, but shooting it out his ass. EDIT: That would be funny. Peter Parker in the cafeteria room at school...leans over to fart discretely...pfffttsssssst. Peter gets up and his ass is stuck to the bench! MWAUHAHAHAHAHAHA! or...not...

haha that wudve made it interesting. though in the comics, i beleive the web shooting was not one of his powers, rather something he invented

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: LordMaul
One thing I never understood...

Where did he get his costume? I've heard it talked about yet never heard it completely answered. Some people say he "spun" it...but how the hell did he get the different colors, everything to be so perfect, plastic-y "web" outlines, eye lenses, etc. etc.? One second he draws a picture, the next he flying around NY in the new get-up.

Also, how does he fly around NY like that? It shows him swinging on one line of web straight down the middle of the street in several occasions, yet at the angle he would have had to have the web attached to something would have been STRAIGHT UP to get at that angle! And does his web retract? If not, with all the web he's been shooting, why don't people have a bunch of it, or people analyzing it? And if it retracts, how does he keep shooting it out so quickly one after another? Where the #@)*&$ does he have all this web material?!

And last but not least...if he really DID turn into a spider, he's be swinging around NY not by his wrists/hands, but shooting it out his ass. EDIT: That would be funny. Peter Parker in the cafeteria room at school...leans over to fart discretely...pfffttsssssst. Peter gets up and his ass is stuck to the bench! MWAUHAHAHAHAHAHA! or...not...

He spun it, and the movie just made his costume all 3d like and stuff. Otherwise I just think its dark plastic on the eyes. I'm not answering any of your questions through the movies, but the comics. His web does NOT retract, it merely drops from his hands and he shoots another from a device hidden on his wrist. People don't have so many samples of it because the webbing that he shoots decomposes after a few hours and so nobody has samples of it. Well, the guy is like a super chemical guy and when the spider bit him, along with the "spider sense" and the "spider strength," he also gained the knowledge somehow of the proper chemicals to combine into small cartridges that will then shoot webbing from the device on his wrist.

<== monkey dance

 

[Jugernot]

BTW, guys... how did he get his Spiderman suit? It just sort of appeared out of no where in the movie. Can someone explain to me where he got it?

 

[Maverick]

in the comics he wore these web shooters on his wrists. They probably thought it'd be too unrealistic to have a high school student make something so advanced for the movie

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: Jugernot
BTW, guys... how did he get his Spiderman suit? It just sort of appeared out of no where in the movie. Can someone explain to me where he got it?

Jugernot, according to the comic book, he stitched it on a sewing machine himself

 

[LordMaul]

OK, so Kelvrick says that according to the comic book, he spun it...but others say that he did it with a sewing machine.


<=== Kelvrick is wrong monkey dance

 

[Pacfanweb]

As far as Spidey's strength goes, in the comics it mentioned that a spider is extremely strong for its size, if you scaled it up to human size, as all insects are. Spiderman is the same, although he's supposed to be roughly as strong as a dozen men. I don't know if that's enough to hold up a cable car or not.

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: LordMaul
OK, so Kelvrick says that according to the comic book, he spun it...but others say that he did it with a sewing machine.


<=== Kelvrick is wrong monkey dance

No, he definitely didn't spin it. Maybe he's thinking of the alien symbiote costume that he got during some crossover (I forget the name), which was really alive and so was able to appear and disappear at will, but it tried to take over his mind, so he got rid of it and it joined with (Eddie Brock?) and became Venom. Yes, I'm a geek, but I used to love Spider-Man. Before the whole clone business and every issue being a crossover with another of his books. Bah.

I don't remember anyone ever specifically saying how strong he is, just that he has the proportionate strength of a spider. *shrug*

 

[jcwagers]

Hmm.....ok. I don't hang out in the off-topic section much but this thread caught my eye. As far as I can recall, he definitely did use a sewing machine to make his costume. As for the webbing, in the comics he invented the device(web shooter). I know it seems far-fetched but Peter Parker was a TOTAL science whiz and so figuring out such a device wasn't beyond his doing. They combined some ideas from the original Spiderman comic and the Spiderman 2099 comic, in my opinion. There was never an explanation of HOW he could stick to walls in the original comic but in the 2099 series he had talons on his fingers that let him do that. Also, he had spinnerets on his arms in the 2099 series so he made his own webs. The web "fluid" that Spiderman uses evaporates after an hour. He once tried to sell it to a company(in one of the comics when he was worried about money and taking care of Aunt May) and they didn't want it because it wasn't permanent. On the strength issue.....I must agree with you guys. Spiderman is definitely NOT a wimp but I don't think he could handle a cable car. I have comics where he could hold a small compact car(it was thrown at him by the Hulk) but a cable car weighs MUCH more than that...especially with people in it. That part was a little out there. On the other hand, the Goblin wasn't nearly strong enough to do that either. Oh.....about the alien symbiote costume. He found that during Secret Wars II. It didn't try to take over his mind but tried to permanently bond with his body so he would never be able to get it off. He managed to get rid of it with some help from Reed Richards(from the Fantastic Four). The symbiote hated him afterwards for shunning it and eventually found someone with a similar hatred for him(Eddie Brock) and thus Venom was born. I'm decently solid on the beginnings of Spiderman but from when they started the clone deal and on......I really haven't kept up with it.

jcwagers

 

[Jugernot]

Ok.... if he didn't sew his own costume, where did he get it in the movie?

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Ornery
The crooked manager may not have his real name and address etc.

That movie was OK up to a point, but I was unable to suspend disbelief after a while. God, holding the weight of that cable car and all... too bad, I liked it well enough, but it went way too far in the end. I wasn't ready for that, based on how it started out.

He DOES have superhuman strength. If you follow the comics, you should know that he would be able to do things like that, if not for prolonged periods of time. He's got extra strength, but he ain't the hulk. I liked the movie. They could have done it so much better though.

<== monkey dance

EDIT: Also, he lives in manhantten, how likely is it that the wrestling guy gonna run into Peter Parker again? Even if he somehow made the connection, he'd probably go, "naah, couldn't be."

I used to be big on Spiderman comics. His first year his powers grew stronger nearly every day, then they leveled out. By the end of the first year, he was one of Marvel's strongest characters. His skin and bones are able to absorb blunt forces (similar to a spider's exo-skeleton), but he is vunerable to piercing attacks (gunfire, knives, etc). I seem to remember he could lift around 8 tons, so a cable car shoudn't be a problem.