question about relationships...

MisterServer

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if two people are in love, but they fight alot about little things, then is it possible for the relationship to work out?? reason i ask is cuz im going thru a real tough time w/ my gf rite now and im thinking whether struggling to stay together is gonna help anything... love her with all my heart, i really do.. but we just dont get along:(
 

KokomoGST

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Well, can't make that judgement yourself... it's possibly dangerous for the relationship. Since you're in the relationship, you got them blinders on... only real way is to have a very close friend help you out. If you can't work past the little fights or learn to adjust somehow...
 

Passions

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fighting is a part of a healthy relationship. you will fight with ur wife too. being a man is also how you deal and handle those fights. but, then, if it happens too frequently maybe u picked the wrong flower.
 

LethalWolfe

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1. Sometimes love isn't enough.

2. Good relationships don't just "happen" they require work just like anything else. I know this is gonna sound dumb/cliched, but read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. That book, IMO, does a good, simple job of explaining how men and women communicate, act, and re-act differently. Once you understand how the other side fudementally thinks you'll have a much easier time what's the right thing to say/do.


Lethal
 

linuxboy

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if two people are in love, but they fight alot about little things, then is it possible for the relationship to work out?? reason i ask is cuz im going thru a real tough time w/ my gf rite now and im thinking whether struggling to stay together is gonna help anything... love her with all my heart, i really do.. but we just dont get along


Oh I love you. It's true, I do. Then why, God, why am I hurting you?

A play on sentence structure/direct object placement if you read carefully.

Love is a verb. It is an action. I love with all my heart. What does that mean? It means that I am and I love. Where's the other person in all of this? I love you. I therefore you. There are two. Love has no separationt, if you claim that you love another, there is still another. Love is a verb.

Now that you're probably thinking "WTF is this guy talking about" let me elaborate.

At first, when attachment occurs, there is a great euphoria and intoxication. There is a loss of self. With time, this fades and people are reduced to who they are, in their absolute worst or best states. This is when most relationships are shaken and break up. It's a bad match when one begins to notice a mate's quirks and gets annoyed by them. From that grows dislike and resentment. If love is there, then the flexibility exists for personalities to change, and for people to change and become flexible. In most relationships between young people, they are still not sure of who they are and thus resist change since they try to first of all grasp themselves. So, there we are. If you love, then you will do and you will actively pursue whatever is necessary to forge a union. That's a big if.

From what I've seen, it takes alot of work to make something like what you describe work, but it can work out. In this day and age however, what may be best is some time to grow and mature by one's own self. If you fight with another, then I think you are holding on to something you think is important and so is the other person. This separates. This is not love. Love is an action.

Cheers ! :)
 

linuxboy

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fighting is a part of a healthy relationship. you will fight with ur wife too. being a man is also how you deal and handle those fights. but, then, if it happens too frequently maybe u picked the wrong flower.

depends what you mean by fighting. Stress and coping with stressors is part of living and thus part of relationships. When there are inadequate or maladaptive strategies in place, fighting is the result and this is not necessarily part of a healthy relationship. Likewise, a veneer of syrupy-sweet interaction with hidden resentment and hatred is just as bad and I daresay, even worse. If that's what you meant, then I agree :). Otherwise, fighting is not really a good thing.

Cheers ! :)
 

CraigRT

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<< love her with all my heart, i really do.. but we just dont get along >>



I had that happen to me.. she just started becoming all bitchy and crap... whenever i'd ask what was wrong, i'd get something similar always to "I'm just tired" or "I've had a long day".. of course then there is the breakup.. i held in there, but she decided to break up with me.. which was fine with me at the time... i can only take so much. i still have no idea why she decided to become a world-class a-hole and i really couldn't care less anymore.
 

Pundit

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MisterServer, if you find that the two of you are unfairly criticizing one another then the cause of the problem is simple. There have been acts commited in the past which have been kept from the other person for which guilt is felt. An example would be that you flirted with another girl on your way home and never told your girlfriend. Put everything on the table and your relationship will get better.
 

pulse8

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<< love her with all my heart, i really do.. but we just dont get along >>

You just answered your own question.

I think you're just looking for someone to tell you to stick with it, but you know it's not going to work out.
 

BCYL

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<< if two people are in love, but they fight alot about little things, then is it possible for the relationship to work out?? reason i ask is cuz im going thru a real tough time w/ my gf rite now and im thinking whether struggling to stay together is gonna help anything... love her with all my heart, i really do.. but we just dont get along:( >>



Definitely yes.

Why, u ask, am I so sure? Because I have been through that myself too... When I was first together with my girlfriend, we were very sweet, totally inseperable... Then after around 1 1/2 yrs, we start to fight a lot... and I mean A LOT, like once a day, all because of stupid silly things... In that period we were both unhappy, and I admit we both hurt each other quite a bit...

But after a while (I guess around 1 yr like that), the fighting just stopped... Not because we didnt care anymore, but because we learned to accept all the little things we used to fight about. We both got very tired of fighting all the time, and we learned to talk things out, learned when to cool down, and learned how to solve problems...

Don't get me wrong, we still sometimes fight... but very rarely... I guess like once every couple of months... and most of the times these fights do not last more than a couple of sentences...

Now we are very happy together... the feeling is not the same as when we first dated... we are very comfortable, very open with each other, totally accepted each other (both pros and cons)...

We have been together for 6 1/2 yrs and counting... and most ppl who knows us say we act like we are a married couple...

If you really do love her, try and work this out... I believe this is a phase every couple goes through... once u two have work through this period, things will be better than ever before... I know, I speak from experience... :)
 

b0mbrman

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Depends how old you are. If you're 16, then forget about it...not worth fixing. If you're 45, then it might take more trying
 

tcsenter

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<< if two people are in love, but they fight alot about little things, then is it possible for the relationship to work out?? >>

Sure, its possible. But, you both have to sit down and agree on a couple things.

First, you have to both agree that the relationship is worth it. Second, you both must agree that you're contributing to this problem. This doesn't mean blaming the other, saying things like "Well I wouldn't act like I do if you wouldn't act like you do. You provoke me." It means admitting that each of you is contributing something to this problem.

Third, you must explore underlying problems that are causing this friction between you. The problem isn't just that you fight about silly things, there is some underlying friction, resentment, or unhappiness that is causing you to use these silly things as a means to some end. What that might be, only you two can say; unresolved fights, unresolved guilt, unresolved resentment, basic dissatisfaction with where the relationship is going, etc. It might even be stress or some other unrelated problem that you take out on each other.

There are times when you have to agree to disagree for the sake of civility without holding a grudge against the other or using some future disagreement to settle things that were unresolved in earlier disagreements. That happens in relationship that seem to be spiraling into a lot of trivial fights and squabbles.

My parents do this. They fight over the salt or some totally f-cking stupid thing like that, but they're really not fighting about the salt. They're fighting about something that happened two years ago, but they've whipped that horse to death without coming to some sort of resolution they both can live with. So, they use the salt, or whatever, to keep this thing alive because one or both of them are not content with the outcome of whatever they're really angry about (that happened two or three or ten years ago).

Someone has to stand-up and be the adult in the relationship even when the emotional urge is to fight like children. Someone has to resist that emotional urge to be indignant or angry, and ask 'Do you realize we're fighting about the salt? Is salt really that big of a f-cking deal? What is this really about and what can we do to put it to rest?' Work on it, one day at a time, and if after a while things still don't seem to be going in the right direction, then someone is going to have to make a decision.

I used to be in a relationship with a girl I loved, and I believe she loved me, but we came to a similar point in our relationship. I wanted to analyze everything, the 'reason' we weren't getting along, I believed there was a logical and palpable 'reason' why our relationship had taken a bad turn. I believed if I could discover and understand this 'reason' then I could 'fix' things.

That is perfectly admirable up to a point, but I was still convinced I could find this 'reason' even though we had really exhausted all of our options. I didn't want to let go, I guess because I didn't want to admit failure, that I had failed to 'fix' this problem between us. I have a tendency to get rather tenacious about solving problems that matter to me. I begin to view it as a personal challenge to which I am very reluctant of admitting defeat.

But that can drive you insane in relationships, because the fact is sometimes there are no 'good' reasons why two formerly loving people begin to drift apart. Well, there IS a reason for everything, but not only is our ability to discern and discover that reason limited, but so is our ability to do something about it. There is a reason why people get Alzheimer's and we've been trying to find that reason for 30+ years. Even when we discover the cause of Alzheimer's, it may take another 30 years to do something about it (find an effective therapy or cure).

With love, at some point you have to cut your losses and move on. Love is like the stock market in many ways. Life is like the stock market, really. Making money (success) in the stock market isn't about possibilities, its about probabilities, likelihoods, and odds.

You don't throw money at a company which has a 'possibility' of making money, you throw money at a company that you believe is LIKELY to make money. If a stock is losing money, you don't decide to hold-on to that stock unless you believe it is LIKELY to turn around. People lose in the stock market (and in life) because they fail to recognize the difference between possibility and probability. If you stay in too long, based on some remote possibility that things will turn-around, the vast majority of people are going to lose...and lose big.

In retrospect, I held-on to that failing 'stock' far too long, clinging to some remote possibility, not a probability, that the relationship would turn-around. But, as they say, you will let go when you are ready to let go, and not a minute before, and I wasn't ready to let go until I was ready.

I blame nobody for the relationship failing, it is one of those situations where it serves absolutely no useful or beneficial purpose to assign 'blame', and ultimately, if you find yourself in a similar situation, I hope you will resist the urge to blame someone, too. Just learn from it and let it go.
 

lawaris

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it depends on what u r fighting on ......


if it involves a third person then u guys are not that much attached !!!

It is best to analyze the warning signs carefully and evaluate them with the mind ( not heart).

Fights are good only if they end up in a warm embrace later on .......if it goes on and on .....then the relationship is doomed.