question about optical input for DVD/CD players on receiver

hclarkjr

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my receiver only has 1 input for optical which i use for my DVD player, i am thinking about getting a CD player that has optical output and am wondering if there is such a thing as a y cable for optical so i can hook both up to my 1 input on receiver? or a A/B switch? thanx
 

Z24

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yes, there are. but they are expensive.

you may as well invest the money in a better CD player (on that has a better DAC), or, put the money you would spend on a switch towards an outboard DAC for use with the CD player.

just for clarification...

The optical (or any digital) connection accomplishes this ONLY: instead of using the CD player's DAC to convert the digital signal to an analog signal, it uses the receiver's DAC.

If your CD player has a better DAC than your receiver, you do NOT want to use the optical connection.

You can get a 3rd device, known as an outboard DAC, that accepts 1 (or more) incoming digital signals, and uses a high quality DAC to output an analog signal. This is a high-end solution, and you can spend mega-dollars on these things. But there are "reasonably" priced ones.

edit: spelling
 

hclarkjr

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but wouldn't you lose the sound quality by using RCA cables instead of the optical cable?
 

Z24

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<< but wouldn't you lose the sound quality by using RCA cables instead of the optical cable? >>



Use high quality RCA cables. The signal has to get converted to analog at some point. If you use absolute sh!t RCA cables, then yes, it will sound bad.

What is your receiver? How much do you want to spend (roughly) on the CD player?

edit: As I was trying to say in the previous post, the most significant difference in using a digital (optical) connection over an analog (RCA) connection is where the digital to analog conversion takes place. With the optical cable, the conversion takes place in the receiver, using the receiver's electronics. With the RCA cable, the conversion takes place in the CD player, with the CD player's electronics. Obviously, you want the signal to be converted with the better of the two.

So, if you buy a higher-end CD player (relative to your receiver), you'd be best to stick with analog cables (RCA).

If you buy a low-end CD player (again, relative to your receiver), you'd be best to go with optical cables.

If they are roughly the same, you won't notice a difference.
 

hclarkjr

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i have a JVC RX-6000 receiver and want to get a JVC CD player to go with it. my whole system is JVC.
 

Z24

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Your receiver has 2 digital inputs.

An optical that you are using for your DVD player, and a coaxial.

What DVD player do you have? JVC? It appears that JVC DVD players have both optical and coaxial digital outputs, while their CD players only have optical digital outputs.

Use the coaxial digital output for the DVD player if you can, and then use the optical output for the CD player.

Problem solved.

(or, if your DVD player only has optical outputs, buy a CD player with coaxial digital outputs)
 

hclarkjr

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my DVD player has only the optical (JVC XV-523GD) and i am not sure but i don't think JVC makes CD player with coaxial digital output. please correct me if i am wrong :)
 

hclarkjr

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oops,
my DVD player does have coaxial output. which output has the better sound though? i want the best sound for my movies and 2nd best for the CD player.
 

Z24

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the digital coaxial and optical outputs are the same.

it is a digital signal. they will sound the same.

 

Z24

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no problem.

as far as the coaxial cable goes. it just looks like an RCA cable.

you can buy the expensive &quot;digital&quot; ones, or, just get a 75ohm video cable. The plugs are the same. As long as it is 75 ohm, you will be fine (and save yourself a few bucks too).

hell, it'll even work with a regular RCA cable, but lets not cut too many corners... :)
 

hclarkjr

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between a JVC &amp; SONY CD player which would you chose? i like JVC a lot and have used their prducts my entire music life. but i would like your opinion in case i am biased to much.
 

Z24

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What is your pricerange? Sony has models that go much higher in price than JVC, so it depends on what kind of dollars you're talking.

without even looking at the choices though, JVC would have the bonus of integrating easily with what you already have.

edit: and are you looking for a single disc, or a changer. if changer, how many discs?
 

bcterps

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Why not use your DVD player to play CDs? Problem solved. hehe. I assume you want a 5 disc changer or one of those huge 200 disc changers.

--Ben
 

HKSturboKID

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if ur DVD has a 5.1 and ur receiver supports 5.1 than use it, and use the optical for the CD player.
 

skywhr

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Can someone link me to one of these Y-digital optical adapters? I am interested to see how much they run
 

hclarkjr

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well i want a multiple cd player and am even considering buying new DVD player from JVC that has 3 trays for DVD's and selling my current DVD player. and i would like link too for that y adapter if anybody can find someplace selling them
 

Z24

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skywhr,

I don't have a link for you, but I was talking to a guy at my local hifi store. It's not a y-adapter, but a switch. And he said a cheap one costs about $100cdn (which is about $65US).

Keep in mind, this isn't a budget electronics store--and they're not known for their cheap prices. :)

edit: you can also get boxes to convert from coax. to optical, and vice versa. or switches that take combinations of coax. and optical, and output optical or coax. or both. lots of options.
 

Z24

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hclarkjr,

what do you need the &quot;y-adapter&quot; (really a switch) for?
 

Z24

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HKSturboKID,


<< if ur DVD has a 5.1 and ur receiver supports 5.1 than use it, >>



What do you mean by that? There are two 5.1 formats (dolby digital 5.1, and DTS 5.1). They work on both the digital coaxial, and the optical connection. Either will work.

I'm still not sure what you are trying to say....
 

Thorn

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This what you're looking for? ----> Link

Got one that's similar hooked up to my PC and it works fine (I split between my HT and my MD recorder).