Question about NMD

[LunarRay]

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The cleansing rain of fire...by this you remove your source of fear..


I'd hope one expects to survive the experience... otherwise what's the point..

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
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The cleansing rain of fire...by this you remove your source of fear..


I'd hope one expects to survive the experience... otherwise what's the point..

That, of course is exactly the delusion. We are hell bent on extinction by backing into it sound asleep.

 

[LunarRay]

Dreams produce really weird story lines... we like to impliment them... us humans... the Ferengi are right...

 

[Fencer128]

Is the military still fudging some of these tests? I know for previous tests on an earlier generation of would-be interceptors the target vehicle was pre-heated prior to launch to make sure it presented a good thermal target.

Anyone know if these have all been "fair"?

Cheers,

Andy

 

[da loser]

that's intriguing I've never heard of heating of the missile, where did you learn about this? I also wonder how big of an effect that would have. Presumably these missiles are going pretty fast at the edge of the atmosphere, which would mean it was pretty hot.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Fencer128
Is the military still fudging some of these tests? I know for previous tests on an earlier generation of would-be interceptors the target vehicle was pre-heated prior to launch to make sure it presented a good thermal target.

Anyone know if these have all been "fair"?

Cheers,

Andy

I think initial tests had homing beacons, but they have moved to tests without beacons and with decoys. But it will not matter as the critics will claim any successful test is either rigged or falsified.

 

[Fencer128]

I think initial tests had homing beacons, but they have moved to tests without beacons and with decoys. But it will not matter as the critics will claim any successful test is either rigged or falsified.

Hi,

I'll go off the evidence for my opinion, whatever that shows - rather than heresay. I was referring to this from fas.org.

"We successfully 'hit a bullet with a bullet' for the first time," Lt. Gen. James Abrahamson of the Air Force, head of the Pentagon's anti-missile program, told Congress. The interceptor, he added, had worked by zeroing in on "a warhead with its inherent heat."

But the Pentagon had actually raised that heat artificially so the test was easier, investigators at the congressional General Accounting Office reported years later. The doctoring was done by heating the mock warhead before launch to 100 degrees. And in flight, the long warhead was instructed to fly sideways, exposing a greater surface area to the distant heat seeker.

The congressional team bluntly noted that dozens of public statements by Defense Department officials had failed to mention "the steps taken to enhance the target's signature."

The next hit-to-kill test, in January 1991, was also touted as a major success. It not only demolished a mock warhead but was said to have succeeded in ignoring two inflatable decoys. The ability to ignore false targets is considered crucial in anti-missile warfare, as foes are expected to scatter decoys and chaff around warheads in hopes of confusing and defeating any defense.

But investigators from the congressional accounting office reported later that the two decoys had been tethered to either side of the dummy warhead, and the interceptor's computer had been programmed to pick out the target in the middle.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But in fear, there is salvation.
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In feeling your fear and finding its source there is, but what did you mean?

The cleansing rain of fire...by this you remove your source of fear..

Only if the rain falls on yourself. You can't jump out of your own skin. You can only heal.

But Sister Hazel said that if you want to be somebody else, all you have to do is change your mind.

 

[CaptnKirk]

My second post in this thread where I mentioned 'Cones' - is a refference to the thermal image capability of the seeker-killer defensive avionics package. Tests bu heating to enhance the
thermal print, as well as maximizing surface area aids in the calibration of the seeker equipment.
once the footprint is established, the gain can be reduced, as the software becomes more able to differentiate target deffinition envelope.

We used to heat the entire MX prior to launches so we could track them better during the test flights, and found that the heated encasement gave a higher yeild to the propultion as well, the warmer fuel load launched faster and got underway quicker. Even though the fuel combustion temperature was near 5,000 F, there was a benefit from the warmer thermal mass being able to initiate (we're only talking a few milli-seconds) but it did counter the repression from the steam generator (launch gas generator) which induced water in the form of steam into the nozzle and burn chamber of the 1st stage of the rocket motor.