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Question about NFL challenges.

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When a coach challenges the spot of the ball (for example it's just short of a first down) and the refs decide to change the spot in the challenge coaches favor, then does it matter if its a first down or not to decide if it was a 'successful challenge"
In other words, if the just move the ball in favor of the coaches challenge, is that enough to make it a successful challenge and not charge the coach with an unsuccesful challenge OR does the re-spot have to result in a first down.
 
Huh? The only reason they'd challenge the spot of the ball is it it's either for a first down, or a touchdown.
I don't know what you are asking.
 
Originally posted by: Quintox
Huh? The only reason they'd challenge the spot of the ball is it it's either for a first down, or a touchdown.
I don't know what you are asking.
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No, he's asking whether or not the NFL would call the challenge successful.

If it's unsuccessful, they lose a TO.

I have no idea, OP.
 
not sure i am 100% sure what you are asking.

but no it does nto matter IF It is a first down or TD to be a succesful challenge.
 
if you challenge the spot of a ball for a first down or touchdown, there is no scenario where you win the challenge but it's still short of the marker.
 
Originally posted by: hdeck
if you challenge the spot of a ball for a first down or touchdown, there is no scenario where you win the challenge but it's still short of the marker.
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yeah there is and yes it has happened. it beign a TD or first down does not matter to the challenge. just if the placement of the ball is right or not.
 
if the ball is found to be anyplace but where it was initially spotted it would be successful in the eyes of the NFL.

How the team or fans view it is another matter.
 
as a matter of fact today in the Bears game this happened. they challenged a calling on if the ball was caught or not. i t really didnt' matter on if it woul dbe a first down or TD only thing it did is give the reciver another catch and yardage for stats.
 
Originally posted by: BlackTigers
Originally posted by: Quintox
Huh? The only reason they'd challenge the spot of the ball is it it's either for a first down, or a touchdown.
I don't know what you are asking.
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No, he's asking whether or not the NFL would call the challenge successful.

If it's unsuccessful, they lose a TO.

I have no idea, OP.
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Yes, that's what I am asking.
 
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
if the ball is found to be anyplace but where it was initially spotted it would be successful in the eyes of the NFL.

How the team or fans view it is another matter.
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When the coaches ask for a challenge, they would specifically tell the ref they are looking to respot the ball in favor of acquiring a first down...If the spot is changed but a first down is not achieved, then they lose the challenge even if the ball is moved up slightly...
 
This situation came up this year. I can't recall the game, but it was one that was televised here in the Bay Area, so the list is short. The coach challenged the spot of the ball, it was moved up about 2 feet but "since it didn't not result in a first down, the coach was charged with a timeout." The referee explained that last part verbatim.
 
Note that the spot of the ball may be challenged in certain cases. In such cases, a decision to respot football is not enough to win the challenge; Only when ball is respotted AND ruling on the field is reversed by remeasurement, the challenging team would not be charged their timeout.
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Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Note that the spot of the ball may be challenged in certain cases. In such cases, a decision to respot football is not enough to win the challenge; Only when ball is respotted AND ruling on the field is reversed by remeasurement, the challenging team would not be charged their timeout.
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Thanks. Answered my question

 
Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
This situation came up this year. I can't recall the game, but it was one that was televised here in the Bay Area, so the list is short. The coach challenged the spot of the ball, it was moved up about 2 feet but "since it didn't not result in a first down, the coach was charged with a timeout." The referee explained that last part verbatim.
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Good question- I was under the impression it wouldnt matter if you got the first down/TD etc as long as it was re-spotted- guess I was wrong.
 
As a soccer referee, I always think it best to consult the rule book if you are unsure about something. The best idea is to look at
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2013 - Rule Book.pdf

Rule 15 Section 9 discusses instant replays. Article 4 Section (d) states that "The position of the ball with respect to a first down" IS a reviewable play, while Article 5 states that "The position of the ball not relating to a first down or goal line" is NOT a reviewable play.
Although it is not explicitly stated, I therefore conclude that for the challenge to be deemed successful, changing the spot of the ball is insufficient...you must ALSO achieve either a first down or a touchdown.

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