Question about HD Tune and Atto

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  1. John Connor

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    Since most hard drives including mine default to a 4096 MB cluster size shouldn't the benchmarks' score at 4 MBs be the most important? In HD tune the default benchmark test is 64k and in Atto it has a range from 0.5 to 8192 MB.
     
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  3. John Connor

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    Does anyone know? I contacted Atto and HD Tune and got no response yet. :(
     
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    masteryoda34 Golden Member

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    What exactly do you mean by "4096 MB cluster size" ?? I think you must be confused.
     
  5. John Connor

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    The allocation unit size.

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    Elixer Diamond Member

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    That is 4K, not 4MB.
     
  7. John Connor

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    Okay, 4K. So what's the most important speed with running benchmarking software? would the 4K block size be the most important then in the benchmarking software?
     
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    First, realize that you have not been clearly stating your question, which makes answering it very difficult. You keep switching between calling the variable in question "cluster size", "allocation unit size", and "block size". These are all actual technical terms, but they do not all necessarily mean the same thing. When you keep changing what term you use, you make it very difficult for someone to understand what you are actually trying to ask. You've also been referring to the size in question as "4096 MB", "4 MB", and "4K". 4096 MB is of course very different than 4K. Again, it makes it difficult to understand your actual question.

    Next, let's clarify some terms. The parameter you are asking about (allocation unit size, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_cluster) is a parameter of the file system, not of the hard drive. The "4K" hard drive parameter you are referring to is called the sector size (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector). These are different (albeit related) things.

    Finally, let's answer your question. HD Tune is designed to measure the performance of the hard disk, not the performance of the file system. When HD Tune reads from the disk, it bypasses the file system and reads blocks directly from the disk. Therefore, the setting you use for allocation unit size in the NTFS file system format dialog (what you posted screenshots of) will have no impact on the results you get with HD Tune. You can verify that the file system is irrelevant to HD Tune by running HD Tune on a hard disk with no file system at all. I do not know for sure if Atto works the same way, but in all likelihood it does.
     
  9. John Connor

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    Well, that doesn't make any sense becasue when I compressed my C drive and ran Atto my speeds flew through the roof. So it must depend on the file system...
     
  10. masteryoda34

    masteryoda34 Golden Member

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    I said I didn't know about Atto.