Queen Elizabeth II has died at 96

[pcgeek11]

Don't understand worshipping rich people for being born rich. One big mouth UK taxpayers don't have to feed now.

I think you should look into her life more closely. She pulled more than her weight during WW2 and beyond...

Queen Elizabeth's Surprising Military Role in World War II

As the second World War raged, then-Princess Elizabeth rallied to the cause and enlisted in the military, helping boost the morale of the British people.

www.biography.com

I am also not a fan of Kings and Queens, but it is their country.

RIP

 

[IronWing]

It's going to get even worse with King Charles (though he might not be called that - weirdly, it's possible he'll pick a new name when be becomes King, apparently that's part of the convention).

He should pick a solid Irish name like Seamus, Brian, Sean, Conor, Liam, or Colin just to f' with people.

 

[IronWing]

Slightly weird mixed-message there! Generally referring to Northern Ireland as "Ulster" is a signifier of Unionism.

I could have said the six occupied counties but you'd be the only one on the board who knew what I was talking about.

 

[pmv]

I think you should look into her life more closely. She pulled more than her weight during WW2 and beyond...

RIP

She could have been a _lot_ worse. And we are probably about to find how how much worse it could have been.

 

[IronWing]

He should pick a solid Irish name like Seamus, Brian, Sean, Conor, Liam, or Colin just to f' with people.

From that other thread on the subject, I learned that a King Louis is a legit possibility in the British future.

 

[WelshBloke]

From that other thread on the subject, I learned that a King Louis is a legit possibility in the British future.

Charles 1st .... beheaded
Charles 2nd ....deposed in a revolution
Charles 3rd .... TBC

 

[WelshBloke]

Elizabeth Truss to QE2 48 hours ago: "There can be, only one, Elizabeth..."

Queen Liz has the first of her weekly meetings with Prime Minister Liz.
Queen Liz "I CHOOSE DEATH!"

Can't really blame her.

 

[WelshBloke]

Elizabeth Windsor had seventy years to speak out against the violence perpetrated by her government and in her name against the people of Ulster and chose not to do so. I guess she had more important things to do.

On a serious note she can't speak out on political things without the permission of parliament.
And, as a republican (in the international usage of the term, not the US political usage) I agree with that stance.

 

[IronWing]

Queen Camilla! Someone better go over to the Daily Mail offices and mop up all the asploded heads.

 

[WelshBloke]

Queen Camilla! Someone better go over to the Daily Mail offices and mop up all the asploded heads.

Apparently she's going to be Queen consort for some bullshit reason.

 

[woolfe9998]

Why would a PM want to know what some entitled silver spoon bag thinks of his policy anyways?

Probably because she has usually been quite popular with the general public in the UK. The thing is, if she HAD been willing to sometimes speak publicly about her views, she may have had more influence over the PM's because they would worry that if they did not go along with her view, she could say something negative about them through the press. I have to think that her commitment to never commenting probably diminshed her influence. But since all those conversations were private, no one can really say how much influence she had.

Contrast with Emporer Hirohito, another figurehead with no formal polical power, but who would sometimes express his views to the pubic through radio addresses. When the civilian and military branches of Japan's government could not agree that they should surrender after we dropped two A-bombs on them, and Hirohito privately told them they needed to surrender, the military had no choice because Hirohito would have gone on the radio and told the people that the military was consigning Japan to total annihilition. He was so popular that the military would have faced mass desertions.

The point being, that someone with no formal politcal power but with high popularity can have tremendous influence over those who do.

 

[balloonshark]

He should pick a solid Irish name like Seamus, Brian, Sean, Conor, Liam, or Colin just to f' with people.

I'm fine with anything as long as it's not King Joffery.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's going to get even worse with King Charles (though he might not be called that - weirdly, it's possible he'll pick a new name when be becomes King, apparently that's part of the convention).

Unfortunately he's going for Charles, he had the option of picking Arthur! What loser turns down the title King Arthur?!

It's not unusual that they choose different names. Edward 7th name was Albert, Victorias name was Alexandra.

 

[IronWing]

Unfortunately he's going for Charles, he had the option of picking Arthur! What loser turns down the title King Arthur?!

It's not unusual that they choose different names. Edward 7th name was Albert, Victorias name was Alexandra.

Well duh, Victoria wanted to stay hip to her era.

 

[WelshBloke]

Well duh, Victoria wanted to stay hip to her era.

What do we call this era? Victoria had Victorian, there was Georgian, Edwardian...

What's the era of King Charles called?

Hopefully "short"

 

[dainthomas]

She made a valiant attempt at cleaning up the reputation of the family. Holy hell, her previous predecessors were serious wankers. The whole Dianna thing blew all of that up. No, I'm not blaming Diana.

That was mostly Elizabeth's doing, since she well knew he loved someone else. She must have figured he'd get over it or something.

 

[IronWing]

Charlesian, pronounces Char-lays-ian?
Charlesoic, pronounced Charl-zoic?
Chucknotic?
Charliferous?
Prebillian?

 

[WelshBloke]

Charlesian, pronounces Char-lays-ian?
Charlesoic, pronounced Charl-zoic?
Chucknotic?
Charliferous?
Prebillian?

Chuckeriffic?

 

[IronWing]

Does Andrew get rehabilitated for the funeral? He's quite the pole barer.

 

[pmv]

Charlesian, pronounces Char-lays-ian?
Charlesoic, pronounced Charl-zoic?
Chucknotic?
Charliferous?
Prebillian?

Apparently the term for the reign of a Charles is "Caroline era". We'll be the new Carolinians, I suppose. Not so Sweet Caroline.

 

[WelshBloke]

Apparently the term for the reign of a Charles is "Caroline era". We'll be the new Carolinians, I suppose. Not so Sweet Caroline.

What kind of bullshit is this?!
We could have been Arthurians!

 

[rommelrommel]

It’s a great opportunity for Canada and other dominion countries to move on from the monarchy. It’s unlikely we’ll ever get as good of a monarch as her again.

 

[IronWing]

Apparently the term for the reign of a Charles is "Caroline era". We'll be the new Carolinians, I suppose. Not so Sweet Caroline.

Long live Charlemediocris, founder of the second Carolinian dynasty!

 

[Lezunto]

Queen Elizabeth did dance with the President of Ghana in 1961. Some point to this as proof of her anti-racism credentials. I think it was more to keep most of Black Africa from siding with Communist Russia.

But she was married to Prince Philip, who was known to make insulting and disparaging comments.

How Queen Danced With Ghana's President Months After Civil Rights Bus Bomb

Queen Elizabeth II showed her commitment to racial diversity when she danced with Ghana's president in 1961—at the height of the civil rights movement in America.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Muse]

TBH, my thought is that the news is going to be filled with info about-it-all for some time. I generally don't have a lot of patience for all the media fascination with English royalty.