quarantine nurse complains

[Brainonska511]

Health care workers are exposed to highly infectious pathogens everyday. I think the quarantine was stupid and unnecessary. It was nothing more than politically motivated BS.

This.

I'd rather have policies backed by facts, not unfounded hysteria.

 

[emperus]

What do you do then? Just say fuck it and let it run it's course? If a Nurse can catch this in the ER with all those safety precautions, think of how easy it would be to catch out of the ER with no safety precautions.

I am a little confused however why there is no deadly CD exposure protocol in place. Just think of the consequences if it mutates on a Nurse and then goes airborne.

I don't think you quarantine health care professionals who have treated Ebola patients for 21 days. Especially given that there is no basis in science in doing so.

 

[waggy]

right why quarantine them? they are nurses and know what they are doing. they won't get it!

 

[theeedude]

If she tested negative, looks like the only reason to keep her in quarantine is for Chris Cristie to get on TV and score some political points. Good for her for speaking up and making those political points not free.

 

[Paratus]

I find it mildly ironic that more people in this thread are shitting their pants over fear from Ebola than have actually had diarrhea caused by Ebola in this country.

 

[CitizenKain]

What do you do then? Just say fuck it and let it run it's course? If a Nurse can catch this in the ER with all those safety precautions, think of how easy it would be to catch out of the ER with no safety precautions.

I am a little confused however why there is no deadly CD exposure protocol in place. Just think of the consequences if it mutates on a Nurse and then goes airborne.

Maybe you should spend a couple of minutes reading about Ebola instead of flailing around making sweeping judgements.

 

[Screech]

I've supported a 3 week self-quarantine for people who return from there......by self quarantine i mean you sit at home and make food you get delivered by amazon or whatever, none of this running around on vacation nonsense. the issue is that when you have people who should be capable of quarantining themselves (and actually do have ebola) running around NYC on uber, it looks like amateur hour and people want that shit to stop.

government should, imho, tell people who return from there that they must stay home for 3 weeks but that they will get full pay, food, and a bunch of b-rated movies to watch. I mean shit, watching movies and eating free food for three weeks doesnt exactly sound like the worst thing in the world. On the other hand, dragging someone out to some tent when they fly back to america is........rather subpar.

 

[sandorski]

Even though it is difficult for Ebola to spread, I still think a Quarantine of Medical Personnel who have treated it should be in place. Regardless of current procedures, Ebola has spread to Medical Personnel, so those procedures are not bulletproof. The biggest problem here seems to be that there was no Protocol in place to begin with, so those personnel went to the epicentre of the outbreak with certain expectations that are now being changed.

As for Politician's involvement, they certainly are not qualified to make Medical decisions. However, they are responsible for protecting the Public at large. As such, they are qualified to err on the side of caution, for if even 1 case of Ebola spread occurs, it can cause a panic. Such a panic will make it increasingly difficult to gain Public support for getting involved in such International Outbreaks, which is already a serious issue and why this current outbreak has not been addressed adequately.

 

[fskimospy]

Good news. After getting slammed by the medical community, New York is lifting its quarantine requirements.

 

[Paul98]

I've supported a 3 week self-quarantine for people who return from there......by self quarantine i mean you sit at home and make food you get delivered by amazon or whatever, none of this running around on vacation nonsense. the issue is that when you have people who should be capable of quarantining themselves (and actually do have ebola) running around NYC on uber, it looks like amateur hour and people want that shit to stop.

government should, imho, tell people who return from there that they must stay home for 3 weeks but that they will get full pay, food, and a bunch of b-rated movies to watch. I mean shit, watching movies and eating free food for three weeks doesnt exactly sound like the worst thing in the world. On the other hand, dragging someone out to some tent when they fly back to america is........rather subpar.

Why would you do that when they aren't contagious?

We clearly don't have a problem containing Ebola in the USA. Stop with the fear causing irrational responses. Just look at what has happened with people who do things even when they are contagious who haven't transmitted it. To make people sit in their house for 21 days while not contagious in the off chance that they might have Ebola simply doesn't make any sense. Simply make sure they watch for any symptoms and if they start to get a fever or anything else then its time for treatment. Keeping them inside for 21 days does nothing to stop the spread.

 

[brycejones]

If US health workers are such douche nozzles that they would rather risk infecting and killing others because they can't be bothered to quarantine themselves then they can fuck off and stay home in the 1st place.

On the other hand the US govt can afford to pay their salary for those quarantine days + 50% as inconvenience compensation.

Talk about the lowest of the low, you are shitting on people who knowingly put themselves in harms way to serve those in need. Now instead of using medical knowledge to determine what to do you want to go to into freak out mode.

Get a grip man.

 

[brycejones]

Good news. After getting slammed by the medical community, New York is lifting its quarantine requirements.

See its the Democrats behind Ebola who realized they need to spread it to harm god fearing Americans. Or some such drivel that will be posted here in P&N soon.

 

[Screech]

Why would you do that when they aren't contagious?

Because once you know that they are, if they were in contact with other people, it might have been transmitted?

I agree it is overkill in the sense that, realistically, you can *probably* be sitting next to someone on a flight from cleveland to denver (or wherever) who has ebola, and a fever to go along with it, and not catch it, as ebola is, as has been mentioned above, not a particularly contagious virus. But that chance certainly isn't zero. And yes, we don't want to spend absurd amounts of time, money, trampling civil liberties of thousands, etc, on worthless what-if type scenarios. But that chance I mentioned above is certainly important enough that the CDC has tried to contact everyone who may have been around the nurse on the flight; if someone who starts to develop symptoms is at work, do they magically teleport to home? what if they used the bathroom? how clean are the faucet handles, really?

Would they spread ebola if this occurred (become symptomatic at work)? perhaps, probably not. Perhaps by something like 99.9%, probably not. But if that .1% chance can be avoided by watching movies for three weeks, is that really an absurd idea to consider?

The idea isn't to quarantine people who aren't contagious.....it is to quarantine them before they become contagious, so that if they do become contagious, it does not spread.

 

[mizzou]

Very interesting to see how this pans out...So far I've heard "Ebola will not make it here" yet we have people popping up at random with confirmed infections.

So far it looks like it's affecting those in the medical field who do charity work.

So is this more or less infectious then Hepatitis? I'm fully aware AIDS infectious rate isn't the highest, but Hepatitis is extremely infectious and robust....yet I'll agree the hypocrisy on not fearing catching hepatitis at a bus stop.

 

[pcgeek11]

What I don't get is that some of you say they should not quarantine these exposed people. They are not symptomatic and cannot spread the disease....

They have been exposed to ebola.
We do not know if they are infected or not.
Some of them obviously do not have enough sense to stay at home until they do know.
Shouldn't we err on the side of safety rather than take a chance?

It isn't like they didn't know the job was dangerous when they accepted it. I would prefer to have anyone coming from that region be quarantined for 21 days before allowing them entry into the country.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Very interesting to see how this pans out...So far I've heard "Ebola will not make it here" yet we have people popping up at random with confirmed infections.

I'm curious as to just who has said any such thing. Can you provide me with some examples please?

 

[boomerang]

Not easily as shown by the lack of cases in the general public even with the original patient who was living in an apartment sick for multiple days.

Just curious, do you know the stats for drunk drivers that don't get in accidents? I could look it up, but thought you might know.

 

[Genx87]

Waste of time. And without symptoms not even sure it is constitutional. The govt is essentially imprisoning somebody based on no evidence. Imagine the ramifications if the govt was able to do this beyond public health.

 

[Paratus]

What I don't get is that some of you say they should not quarantine these exposed people. They are not symptomatic and cannot spread the disease....

They have been exposed to ebola.
We do not know if they are infected or not.
Some of them obviously do not have enough sense to stay at home until they do know.
Shouldn't we err on the side of safety rather than take a chance?

It isn't like they didn't know the job was dangerous when they accepted it. I would prefer to have anyone coming from that region be quarantined for 21 days before allowing them entry into the country.

And I assume that if you are from the U.S., and had to travel internationally for work you'd be fine being put in a mandatory quarantine for three weeks since you'd be traveling from a known country which has had multiple ebola cases.

Out of an abundance of caution of course.

 

[Texashiker]

Do I need to remind people of their stance on vaccines? If the government can mandate you to get a vaccine, then the government can mandate you to go into quarantine.

Public health trumps civil rights.

 

[Brainonska511]

Do I need to remind people of their stance on vaccines? If the government can mandate you to get a vaccine, then the government can mandate you to go into quarantine.

Public health trumps civil rights.

Yes, life is black and white. Forced vaccination and mandatory 3 week quarantine are the same thing.

 

[Exterous]

Common sense is to let medical professionals make these decisions. Sadly, we are woefully short on common sense.

The problem is that the medical community burned a lot of its credibility with the American public. We were assured that

Every hospital in this county has the capability to isolate a patient, take the measures, put them in place to ensure that any suspected case is immediately isolated and the follow-up steps that have been mentioned are immediately taken

So the nurse in Texas that got infected "Didn't follow procedures" although later it was found out that the Texas hospital that wasn't prepared to deal with Ebola but tried to deal with it anyway. Then there was the nurse who called the CDC, followed their recommendations and was allowed to fly while infected with Ebola. Meanwhile the CDC Director says "she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to Ebola, she should not have travelled on a commercial airline". So the CDC is saying she was fine to travel while at the same time saying she wasn't fine to travel.

I am certainly not panicking about Ebola nor does it really register on a daily basis for me (other than being unable to watch the 'news' without it being covered) but there have been many missteps by the medical community including conflicting statements made by the CDC itself (who I think most Americans would want to see at least be able to make accurate public statements) If you want the public to be ok with letting the medical professionals handle this this is not the way to do it

 

[Texashiker]

Yes, life is black and white. Forced vaccination and mandatory 3 week quarantine are the same thing.

Black and white is public health trumps civil rights.

When it comes to protecting the health of the general public, you have no rights.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't agree with this quarantine, had she had a fever or other symptoms I would have no issue with a quarantine.

 

[Texashiker]

Yet another dumb and irrational decision.

Would you make up your mind?

In one thread you are fine with forcing people to take measures against their will.

But in the next thread you are spouting off how bad of a decision it is.

Because otherwise she represents a significantly increased risk of transmitting a serious viral infection to a vulnerable population.

No, you do not have a right to place hundreds or thousands of other people in a vulnerable population at risk.