quarantine nurse complains

[mizzou]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/26/health/new-jersey-quarantined-nurse/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

i don't care, you want to go expose yourself to deadly diseases, then spend a couple days in quarantine...biggggg deal!

 

[Brovane]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/26/health/new-jersey-quarantined-nurse/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

i don't care, you want to go expose yourself to deadly diseases, then spend a couple days in quarantine...biggggg deal!

Politicians are not qualified to make medical decisions.

 

[mizzou]

Politicians are not qualified to make medical decisions.

well, they should be involved in the process. But obviously they should not be making independent medical policies.

 

[norseamd]

Honestly I think 3 weeks of quarantine is not that much to worry about considering what is going on and she probably has decades of life left if she does not actually have the disease. But if they can confirm that she does not have Ebola then I guess she is free to go.

PliableMoose actually knows this girl.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Hickox, an epidemiologist who was working to help treat Ebola patients in Sierra Leone,...

Yeah, I stopped right there - you visit an area where there is an Ebola breakout/epidemic,.. you will be shoved into quarantine. That is the nature of the beast you chose to deal with.

My heart does not bleed.

 

[Brovane]

Yeah, I stopped right there - you visit an area where there is an Ebola breakout/epidemic,.. you will be shoved into quarantine. That is the nature of the beast you chose to deal with.

My heart does not bleed.

Which will now discourage US Health Workers from volunteering to serve in these areas if they have to spend 3-weeks in quarantine upon return to the US. This means less of a potential of fighting the virus in Africa and increase in potential of spreading beyond Africa. This is what happens when you have politicians making medical policy.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't know if it's a big deal or not, because like politicians who are not qualified to make medical decisions, but unlike most who post here, I am not qualified to reach any decision on what is presented here. I do hope though, that the best all around thing happens here.

 

[fskimospy]

Yet another dumb and irrational decision.

 

[MustISO]

She and the Dr. (who is infected) are idiots. After working with people who have the infection and knowing you may possibly have it, why the hell would you risk exposing your loved ones. Anyone coming back from a place where they were exposed to Ebola should automatically be quarantined. It's just common sense.

 

[fskimospy]

She and the Dr. (who is infected) are idiots. After working with people who have the infection and knowing you may possibly have it, why the hell would you risk exposing your loved ones. Anyone coming back from a place where they were exposed to Ebola should automatically be quarantined. It's just common sense.

Amazing that when it comes to Ebola people keep mixing up "common sense" with "dumb policy that ignores what people who actually know what they are doing say".

Common sense is to let medical professionals make these decisions. Sadly, we are woefully short on common sense.

 

[LegendKiller]

Politicians are not qualified to make medical decisions.

Nor are these medical professionals that decide to go bowling, take flights and do a bunch of stupid shit that put the public at risk for no reason other than they feel like they are OK, according to their "knowledge" of how they should behave.

The public can't trust them to do what is right, which is a voluntary quarantine for a week so that we can be 100% certain they don't have anything. If we could depend on that this wouldn't be a problem.

 

[MongGrel]

Honestly I think 3 weeks of quarantine is not that much to worry about considering what is going on and she probably has decades of life left if she does not actually have the disease. But if they can confirm that she does not have Ebola then I guess she is free to go.

PliableMoose actually knows this girl.

Yeah, I stopped right there - you visit an area where there is an Ebola breakout/epidemic,.. you will be shoved into quarantine. That is the nature of the beast you chose to deal with.

My heart does not bleed.

+1

She and the Dr. (who is infected) are idiots. After working with people who have the infection and knowing you may possibly have it, why the hell would you risk exposing your loved ones. Anyone coming back from a place where they were exposed to Ebola should automatically be quarantined. It's just common sense.

 

[Brovane]

Nor are these medical professionals that decide to go bowling, take flights and do a bunch of stupid shit that put the public at risk for no reason other than they feel like they are OK, according to their "knowledge" of how they should behave.

The public can't trust them to do what is right, which is a voluntary quarantine for a week so that we can be 100% certain they don't have anything. If we could depend on that this wouldn't be a problem.

If you are not showing symptoms of Ebola(Elevated temperature) then you are not contagious. The doctor as soon as he started showing symptoms of Ebola (elevated temperature) he went to the Hospital. What causes Ebola to spread is close contact of body fluids like blood, fecal matter, vomit etc. Which means the health workers that are exposed to these fluids when the person is really sick are most at risk. The best method is careful monitoring of vital signs and going to the Hospital when you start showing anything that indicates your body is fighting a viral infection. When Ebola is in it's incubation period the person is not infectious.

 

[fskimospy]

If you are not showing symptoms of Ebola(Elevated temperature) then you are not contagious. The doctor as soon as he started showing symptoms of Ebola (elevated temperature) he went to the Hospital. What causes Ebola to spread is close contact of body fluids like blood, fecal matter, vomit etc. Which means the health workers that are exposed to these fluids when the person is really sick are most at risk. The best method is careful monitoring of vital signs and going to the Hospital when you start showing anything that indicates your body is fighting a viral infection. When Ebola is in it's incubation period the person is not infectious.

What's bad is I don't think people realize that the things they think are helping protect the U.S. from Ebola (travel bans, quarantine, etc) are actually making us more vulnerable, not less.

When we eventually whip this outbreak in Africa and elsewhere it will be in spite of their efforts, not because of them.

 

[Brovane]

What's bad is I don't think people realize that the things they think are helping protect the U.S. from Ebola (travel bans, quarantine, etc) are actually making us more vulnerable, not less.

When we eventually whip this outbreak in Africa and elsewhere it will be in spite of their efforts, not because of them.

Absolutely. Ebola is now politicized and we have Politicians trying to score political points now.

 

[Paul98]

If you are not showing symptoms of Ebola(Elevated temperature) then you are not contagious. The doctor as soon as he started showing symptoms of Ebola (elevated temperature) he went to the Hospital. What causes Ebola to spread is close contact of body fluids like blood, fecal matter, vomit etc. Which means the health workers that are exposed to these fluids when the person is really sick are most at risk. The best method is careful monitoring of vital signs and going to the Hospital when you start showing anything that indicates your body is fighting a viral infection. When Ebola is in it's incubation period the person is not infectious.

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Heck look at the first person who came into the US, even with being sick for multiple days living in the same house did not infect anyone in that house. That is with it being contagious.

Now you are going to quarantine someone who has been working to stop ebola and isn't even showing symptoms.

There is NO reason for it, all it's doing is trying to calm the irrational fears of a stupid public.

 

[nixium]

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Heck look at the first person who came into the US, even with being sick for multiple days living in the same house did not infect anyone in that house. That is with it being contagious.

Now you are going to quarantine someone who has been working to stop ebola and isn't even showing symptoms.

There is NO reason for it, all it's doing is trying to calm the irrational fears of a stupid public.

What's more appalling is the way it was carried out. She was detained with no explanation, no recourse to a lawyer, no details regarding the quarantine, in tent that was marginally better than a prison. If they'd blindfolded her and handcuffed her before transporting her there, that would have finished the picture. Really, the USA? Sounds more like something Iran would do. The founders must be ashamed to look at these "leaders".


Great to know how easy it is for the government to suspend all your travel rights without telling you why. Today's it's an ebola scare. Tomorrow?


Also disgusting how both liberal and conservatives in this thread seem to agree with this absurd unexplained overreach. Makes you realize the credibility of both those who consider themselves "small government" and those that are "socially liberal"

Disgusting. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

 

[massmedia]

Which will now discourage US Health Workers from volunteering to serve in these areas if they have to spend 3-weeks in quarantine upon return to the US.

If US health workers are such douche nozzles that they would rather risk infecting and killing others because they can't be bothered to quarantine themselves then they can fuck off and stay home in the 1st place.

On the other hand the US govt can afford to pay their salary for those quarantine days + 50% as inconvenience compensation.

 

[Paul98]

If US health workers are such douche nozzles that they would rather risk infecting and killing others because they can't be bothered to quarantine themselves then they can fuck off and stay home in the 1st place.

On the other hand the US govt can afford to pay their salary for those quarantine days + 50% as inconvenience compensation.

They aren't risking infecting anyone if they don't have symptoms. Even if they do have symptoms they aren't risking anyone without fluid contact.

So clearly not risking anyone

 

[emperus]

This policy isn't really well thought out. What about all the doctors who treat Ebola Patients in the US? From my count 2 of the 3 infected in the US were nurses treating Ebola an Ebola Patient. I guess we quarantine all those John's Hopkins nurses and doctors as well. Who is going to want to treat any Ebola patient?

Really Really not thought out.

 

[mizzou]

They aren't risking infecting anyone if they don't have symptoms. Even if they do have symptoms they aren't risking anyone without fluid contact.

So clearly not risking anyone

I'm not sick, just allergies. *cough cough*, gets spit on you on the subway.

I don't mind if people negligently spread the cold, but Ebola is some scary shit. What happens if you start to have symptoms at work? Great, now you are exposing everyone to your nasty shit.

 

[mizzou]

This policy isn't really well thought out. What about all the doctors who treat Ebola Patients in the US? From my count 2 of the 3 infected in the US were nurses treating Ebola an Ebola Patient. I guess we quarantine all those John's Hopkins nurses and doctors as well. Who is going to want to treat any Ebola patient?

Really Really not thought out.

What do you do then? Just say fuck it and let it run it's course? If a Nurse can catch this in the ER with all those safety precautions, think of how easy it would be to catch out of the ER with no safety precautions.

I am a little confused however why there is no deadly CD exposure protocol in place. Just think of the consequences if it mutates on a Nurse and then goes airborne.

 

[fskimospy]

What do you do then? Just say fuck it and let it run it's course? If a Nurse can catch this in the ER with all those safety precautions, think of how easy it would be to catch out of the ER with no safety precautions.

The answer is: very difficult.

What you definitely don't do is put in place these quarantines and travel bans that make things worse. We have politicians and scared people making policy instead of medical experts.

I am a little confused however why there is no deadly CD exposure protocol in place. Just think of the consequences if it mutates on a Nurse and then goes airborne.

Do you know how many viruses have mutated and changed their method of transmission that radically in the history of out study of viruses? Zero.

If this is your concern, why aren't you way way way more worried about AIDS going airborne? It has had way more chances to mutate than Ebola ever has.

 

[Paul98]

What do you do then? Just say fuck it and let it run it's course? If a Nurse can catch this in the ER with all those safety precautions, think of how easy it would be to catch out of the ER with no safety precautions.

I am a little confused however why there is no deadly CD exposure protocol in place. Just think of the consequences if it mutates on a Nurse and then goes airborne.

Not easily as shown by the lack of cases in the general public even with the original patient who was living in an apartment sick for multiple days.

 

[Strk]

Health care workers are exposed to highly infectious pathogens everyday. I think the quarantine was stupid and unnecessary. It was nothing more than politically motivated BS.