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Qualcomm Technologies Announces Next Generation Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 Processor

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Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM) today announced that its subsidiary, Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., introduced the next generation mobile processor of the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 tier, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor, which is designed to deliver the highest-quality mobile video, imaging and graphics experiences at Ultra HD (4K) resolution, both on device and via Ultra HD TVs. Featuring the new Adreno 420 GPU, with up to 40 percent more graphics processing power than its predecessor, the Snapdragon 805 processor is the first mobile processor to offer system-level Ultra HD support, 4K video capture and playback and enhanced dual camera Image Signal Processors (ISPs), for superior performance, multitasking, power efficiency and mobile user experiences. The Snapdragon 805 processor is Qualcomm Technologies' newest and highest performing Snapdragon processor to date, featuring:

  • Blazing fast apps and web browsing and outstanding performance: Krait 450 quad-core CPU, the first mobile CPU to run at speeds of up to 2.5 GHz per core, plus superior memory bandwidth support of up to 25.6 GB/second that is designed to provide unprecedented multimedia and web browsing performance.
  • Smooth, sharp user interface and games support Ultra HD resolution: The mobile industry's first end-to-end Ultra HD solution with on-device display concurrent with output to HDTV; features Qualcomm Technologies' new Adreno 420 GPU, which introduces support for hardware tessellation and geometry shaders, for advanced 4K rendering, with even more realistic scenes and objects, visually stunning user interface, graphics and mobile gaming experiences at lower power.
  • Fast, seamless connected mobile experiences: Custom, efficient integration with either the Qualcomm® Gobi™ MDM9x25 or the Gobi MDM9x35 modem, powering superior seamless connected mobile experiences. The Gobi MDM9x25 chipset announced in February 2013 has seen significant adoption as the first embedded, mobile computing solution to support LTE carrier aggregation and LTE Category 4 with superior peak data rates of up to 150Mbps. Additionally, Qualcomm's most advanced Wi-Fi for mobile, 2-stream dual-band Qualcomm® VIVE™ 802.11ac, enables wireless 4K video streaming and other media-intensive applications. With a low-power PCIe interface to the QCA6174, tablets and high-end smartphones can take advantage of faster mobile Wi-Fi performance (over 600 Mbps), extended operating range and concurrent Bluetooth connections, with minimal impact on battery life.
  • Ability to stream more video content at higher quality using less power:Support for Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) for video post processing, first to introduce hardware 4K HEVC (H.265) decode for mobile for extremely low-power HD video playback.
  • Sharper, higher resolution photos in low light and advanced post-processing features: First Gpixel/s throughput camera support in a mobile processor designed for a significant increase in camera speed and imaging quality. Sensor processing with gyro integration enables image stabilization for sharper, crisper photos. Qualcomm Technologies is the first to announce a mobile processor with advanced, low-power, integrated sensor processing, enabled by its custom DSP, designed to deliver a wide range of sensor-enabled mobile experiences.
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You stopped a bit short of the other important tidbit:

The Snapdragon 805 processor is sampling now and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2014.
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Which is a pretty generous range and likely indicative of missing Q1 (otherwise why not state Q1?)

The more interesting tidbit from today's Qualcomm's announcement in my opinion is what's missing - there was no mention of what's next after Krait. Wonder how long it's going to be before we see their first ARMv8 implementation.
 
Hopefully this will be powering the next windows phone camera flagship, 4K is a must if they want to attract more attention. Hopefully they can come out with a really good armv8 derivative by H1 2015. 32 Bit is fine for the moment on mobile phones, late 2014 tablet market will be interesting however.
 
Sable said:
This 4K nonsense is as useless as the whole 64bit nonsense. (in phones)
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4K may not be much use in phones, but it could be helpful in high-end tablets. It would also be potentially important if a vendor wanted to make a set-top box using the Qualcomm SoC.
 
how is it not much use in phones? why do people forget they can watch videos they've recorded on their phones on other devices. like TVs. even if you don't have a 4k tv yet it would still look good.
 
tommo123 said:
how is it not much use in phones? why do people forget they can watch videos they've recorded on their phones on other devices. like TVs. even if you don't have a 4k tv yet it would still look good.
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No one does this. And certainly no one does it in 4K because the camera required to do it would be exorbitant in price and is nowhere near to being included in phones. Storage space on these phones for all this 4K video? 4K TVs also exorbitant in price. And if you don't have a 4K tv it would look the same. Except you haven't recorded it because the camera doesn;t exist.

It's bigger numbers for morons.

I say again, completely useless. FOR PHONES.
 
Can I just clarify, I'm not against progress. But this is unnecessary progress. More die space (I'm guessing) for a function that is nowhere close to being needed/useful.
 
Sable said:
No one does this. And certainly no one does it in 4K because the camera required to do it would be exorbitant in price and is nowhere near to being included in phones. Storage space on these phones for all this 4K video? 4K TVs also exorbitant in price. And if you don't have a 4K tv it would look the same. Except you haven't recorded it because the camera doesn;t exist.

It's bigger numbers for morons.

I say again, completely useless. FOR PHONES.
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it does exist. some phones can already do it.

storage space is irrelevant to some of us unless recording a huge amount

maybe you can't tell the diff but some can. no diff than watching HD content on a SD TV way back when. the source is better and does look a little better on screen.

as i said, phones already can do it, storage space is cheap so why not record in 4k? even if you can't tell the diff now, you'll have a 4k tv at some point and can view it properly then.

as for the final comment, that's your opinion and only important to you.
 
Sable said:
Can I just clarify, I'm not against progress. But this is unnecessary progress. More die space (I'm guessing) for a function that is nowhere close to being needed/useful.
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can i just clarify:

unnecessary in your opinion
not needed or useful in your opinion
 
Interested in what, if any uarch tweaks Qualcomm made this time around. Krait 300 to 400 brought very little, as far as Anand reported anyway - just L2 improvements and process implementation changes. It looks like they're getting more invested in GHz marketing which is slightly troubling.
 
Sable said:
No one does this. And certainly no one does it in 4K because the camera required to do it would be exorbitant in price and is nowhere near to being included in phones. Storage space on these phones for all this 4K video? 4K TVs also exorbitant in price. And if you don't have a 4K tv it would look the same. Except you haven't recorded it because the camera doesn;t exist.

It's bigger numbers for morons.

I say again, completely useless. FOR PHONES.
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cameras do exist, 4k is only 8 megapixels. Just sample them fast.
 
Intel17 said:
Well who the hell else's opinion would it be? If anybody says something that's not fact, it is obviously opinion.
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he didn't clarify it as an opinion, he made statements. and in that he was wrong. clearly.

4k is not useless as others here have pointed out so please wash the sand out of your vag.
 
This is great, the more things that have 4k built into them the quicker it will be widespread, adopted, and the prices to come down.
 
ShintaiDK said:
If you want 4K quality or even 1080p. Then forget a phone to record with. As long as the lens area is as small as it is, its not gonna be any better.
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Precisely. The problem still being picture quality is generally rubbish anyway due to the very small aperture lenses & CCD / CMOS sizes used on phones / tablets. And no optical zoom or decent low light lenses. Which are things no CPU can fix because they're natural limitations of a device less than 1cm thick.

There's also several very good reasons why people who favor decent image quality buy things called "cameras". A typical "Four-Thirds" prosumer camera (bought for picture quality) has a sensor roughly 30-90x larger than what you'd see in tablets or phones with pea sized lenses, which translates to significantly less noise (further compounded when saving in lossy JPEG/MPEG vs RAW). And anyone who intends to shoot half decent footage also uses another new-fangled device called a "tripod" to avoid ending up with "Youtube sea sickness" and for video - a proper microphone with a windshield to avoid being deafened by a roar every time there's a gust of wind when shooting outside...

It makes you wonder exactly what 4k "quality productions" people are planning to make... :biggrin:
 
I saw a commercial on TV, about some "photographer" saying that Nokias new 41MP phone was better than his SLR cam. So bad a hoax it hurts.
 
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