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Abwx said:
That s the power measured at the main with 4W idle power, so that makes about 9W in ST and not 14W as claimed by this tweetos.
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He doesn't know that the PL1 and PL2 defining the peak power consumption can be changed by the vendor.

Here is the detailed power consumption table for Dell XPS 13 with X1E-80-100:

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Abwx said:
Cinebench is their best score overall since they manage to match Phoenix@35W, but Kakan will use 25W for the same throughput, that s 40% better perf/watt at same throughput than both those chips.
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It's still fine.
now, 85W peak nT power is not fine, that's luggable territory.
FlameTail said:
This is why the next generation should reduce the frequency, not increase it!
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They just need to work on their physdes and binning capabilities.
It's not rocket science.
 
adroc_thurston said:
It's still fine.
now, 85W peak nT power is not fine, that's luggable territory.

They just need to work on their physdes and binning capabilities.
It's not rocket science.
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Yeah the issue here is phydes, and possibly (?) the pmic BS Charlie claimed — where they front smartphone pmics and pcbs and marred power at higher current.
 
poke01 said:
Changed employers
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Freedom at last.
But maybe Tim C. lashes of pain were dished out to hweng slaves for a reason.
FlameTail said:
Why
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See that 3.4G power being what it is?
That's very no bueno for phone form-factors.
Even with N3e this looks kinda stinky for phone applications.

Plus they need a real 1t bump and given that Oryon/Phoenix isn't much higher IPC than Cortex-X4. Well.
 
You don’t go from executing so well from A7 to A14 and the sudden change in environment probably had an impact. After looking at this I genuinely believe that v1 will be like Rocket lake and v2 will be much better.
 
poke01 said:
and the sudden change in environment probably had an impact
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Apple hweng is slave galley so the change was almost certainly positive.
poke01 said:
After looking at this I genuinely believe that v1 will be like Rocket lake and v2 will be much better.
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RKL was a weird one-off backport by an unrelated team, this is prim and proper setpiece for a gen1 Nuvia core and it's...
 
adroc_thurston said:
Man now I'm feeling really funny about SD 8 gen 4.

Physical design.
AMD's favourite.

Genuinely didn't expect GWIII to deliver 55W R23 handnukes on pedestrian SKUs.
Wonder what happened.
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Yep. I’m ankle-deep in on “a few things were rushed or went wrong” even tho it’s still a good part on paper just late

I guess one way we’re about to find out how much phydes and other tweaks they have in them with a bit of extra time and tighter constraints is with 8 Gen 4.
 
poke01 said:
You don’t go from executing so well from A7 to A14 and the sudden change in environment probably had an impact. After looking at this I genuinely believe that v1 will be like Rocket lake and v2 will be much better.
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Not comparable to rocket but I do think we’ll know if they have it in them with 8G4 & then 2025.

If it’s losing in ST perf/W to cortex (at similar total) perf this winter, lol
 
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