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Well I need a new laptop/convertible/chrome machine by the end of the year and am only willing to part with <1000€.
Zen 5 refreshes of the devices I'd get are all likely 2025, and now Snapdragon has disappointed me (not fanless).
Hopefully by 2029 they (anyone) will have an actual macbook air competitor for plebs.
I mean it was on a video playback and Apple’s display is slightly higher resolution. Idk man it’s totally believable.
“More power efficient” can mean a lot of different stuff. I’m kinda tired of this crap where people see it as a monolith.
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that’s what happens when the head of Apple Silicon is crazy for perf/w.
Also there will be LP-E cores in Lunar Lake and they too will be efficient. Will be nice to see a comparison.
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@soresu
I don't think emulation will be an issue.
Windows on Arm to get Adobe Premier Pro and more, after Adobe FINALLY pledges full support
Adobe has pledged to finally bring its full suite of tools to Windows on Arm, ending its long-time scepticism.
www.windowscentral.com
Entire Adobe suite is coming to WoA.
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Known about that for a while, there's a lot more than Adobe software out there for those of us who have gone past the more consumer friendly segments of the DCC market.
Really the only thing that interests me from that would be Substance Painter, which is effectively industry standard now, even though post Adobe acquisition it has seen considerable bloat and reliability problems (beyond what it already had under Allegorithmic IMHO).
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At MS Build, an entire sea of apps have been announced to be getting ARM support soon or having support already.
There's so many. This screenshot doesn't even capture the full list. Somebody should write an article with entire list of apps, tbh. XDA?
There's so many. This screenshot doesn't even capture the full list. Somebody should write an article with entire list of apps, tbh. XDA?
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Geekerwan's M4 review is out. Now we can compare M4 and X Elite power curve.
M4 CPU (MT) and GPU both maxes out at about 30W.
X Elite CPU (MT) maxes out at about 40W and GPU at 30W.
Granted this is not a 1:1 comparison, as the power measurement methodologies are different.
I am looking forward to Geekerwan's review of X Elite. I hope Qualcomm will send them a unit in advance (that fancy dev kit box perhaps)?
M4 CPU (MT) and GPU both maxes out at about 30W.
X Elite CPU (MT) maxes out at about 40W and GPU at 30W.
Granted this is not a 1:1 comparison, as the power measurement methodologies are different.
I am looking forward to Geekerwan's review of X Elite. I hope Qualcomm will send them a unit in advance (that fancy dev kit box perhaps)?
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Windows 11 2024H2 (the version Snapdragon X PCs will ship with) not only has a new x86 emulator, but also a new scheduler, compiler and kernel.
Clearly, there have been under the hood optimisations for these ARM chips.
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Windows 11 2024H2 (the version Snapdragon X PCs will ship with) not only has a new x86 emulator, but also a new scheduler, compiler and kernel.
Clearly, there have been under the hood optimisations for these ARM chips.
I would be very interested to see a definition of "new" here, especially regarding the compiler and kernel.
If they've replaced NT I'll eat a hat.
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Intel next-generation Lunar Lake CPUs launching in Q3, Arrow Lake in Q4 — mobile chips claimed to be 1.4x faster than Qualcomm's X Elite processors
AI marketing reaches a fever pitch.
Intel is taking shots at Qualcomm.
Intel has finally accepted that Qualcomm is a serious competitor. Qualcomm now joins the podium with Intel, AMD and Apple as a major PC CPU vendor.
Was anything about Purwa shared yet?
These are some very big changes. MS clearly is pushing for QCOM and the upcoming NV and AMD SoCs.
Windows 11 2024H2 (the version Snapdragon X PCs will ship with) not only has a new x86 emulator, but also a new scheduler, compiler and kernel.
Clearly, there have been under the hood optimisations for these ARM chips.
MS is tossing aside the WinTel Empire and pushing for the new WinArm. Of course Intel is worried. Laptop Consumers is a very big market and Intel will face more competition than ever.Intel next-generation Lunar Lake CPUs launching in Q3, Arrow Lake in Q4 — mobile chips claimed to be 1.4x faster than Qualcomm's X Elite processors
AI marketing reaches a fever pitch.www.tomshardware.com
Intel is taking shots at Qualcomm.
Intel has finally accepted that Qualcomm is a serious competitor. Qualcomm now joins the podium with Intel, AMD and Apple as a major PC CPU vendor.
Geekrawan review of X Elite is one to look forward to. Sad that Anandtech is no longer doing those deep dives. They were the place to go for eons.
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When is the review embargo for these things? I know for a fact some Youtubers already have laptops.
"Microsoft says that Prism isn’t just a new name for the same old translation technology."
Despite that the translation is still xtajit64 which they have had for years, but with improvements.
And the "new" kernel is the same kernel built with updated ARM64 optimizations and targeting v8.1 instead of v8.0.
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ARM v8.1? That's bizarre. Isn't Oryon ARMv8.7?
And the upcoming Nvidia/AMD/Mediatek SoCs will all certainly be ARMv9.
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Windows also runs on Altra (ARMv8.2), on Somebody Else's Computer.
The term lowest common denominator is something you should learn about.
It's the same thing with the profiles Linux has for x86 CPUs - v1, v2, v3 and v4 which have progressively more features.
Each profile represents a lowest common denominator at some point.
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A first look at Lenovo's Snapdragon X Elite laptops, the Thinkpad T14s Gen 6 and Yoga Slim 7x.
The Yoga seems like a really good laptop.
14" 3K OLED display
2.82 lbs
70 Wh battery
16 GB RAM
1 TB SSD
Snapdragon X Elite
All for just $1289.
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