Qualcomm promises 73.5 Mb/s wireless broadband by 2008

[techs]

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/04/07/next_generation_mobile_broadband/

Qualcomm promises 73.5 Mb/s wireless broadband by 2008
Qualcomm expects the second generation of EVDO wireless broadband solution to be commercialized within two years and offer substantially more bandwidth than today's DSL and cable broadband offerings: Professional EVDO solutions will reach 73.5 Mb/s while consumer solution may hit 14.7 Mb/s download speeds.

The requirements of the next generation of Internet applications, such as IPTV, has outgrown the capabilities of most the telecommunications and cable infrastructure in the US. And it turns out that wireless bandwidths are developing much faster than wired networks can be upgraded: Qualcomm today provided a first glimpse at its upcoming broadband technologies that are forecasted to surface in late 2007 and will be available to consumers in early 2008.

The currently available EVDO Rev. A, which is offered for example through Verizon Wireless, delivers an average downlink of 400 - 700 Kb/s and reaches "burst rates" of 2.0 Mb/s. EVDO Rev. B will support up to three simultaneous channels of 1.25 MHz and come in modems that are smaller and lighter than today's A devices, Qualcomm said. The technology offers a bandwidth of 4.9 Mb/s in each channel for a combined three-channel data speed of up to 14.7 Mbps on the downlink. "Extremely high-performance" services in professional solutions could support forward-link data rates of up to 73.5 Mb/s, the company said.

The additional bandwidth would increase the capability of wireless devices, and enable applications such as mobile TV or streaming music with a concurrent voice call, or conducting a Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) conversation while simultaneously browsing the Internet or transmitting multimedia content over the network.

EVDO, which will be offered through wireless carriers using CDMA-based networks, competes with HSDPA, which will be offered by GSM operators. Qualcomm is involved in HSDPA as well and demonstrated in March the industry's first 7.2 Mb/s HSDPA mobile data calls (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/31/nortel_qualcomm_hsdpa/) - twice the speed of the fastest HSDPA devices shown until then. HSDPA network services as well as hardware are expected to become available within the coming months



OK so they are talking about 14.7 Mb/s for the average user. I guess what I am wondering what current wiring from cable companies, copper not fibre, is capable of?
With fibre so expensive can wireless be the future?
Is it cheaper to build and maintain wireless towers or to run fibre to the living room?

 

[LumbergTech]

sounds good but have to say i dont really believe the release date.. "avaiable to consumers in early 2008"..aka extremely limited markets and then we spread the offerings at an excruciatingly slow pace

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I wonder how latency will be using these wireless solutions. Honestly, I prefer to stick with a wired solution.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: techs
Topic Title: Qualcomm promises 73.5 Mb/s wireless broadband by 2008
Topic Summary: Will wireless overtake wired internet providers?

OK so they are talking about 14.7 Mb/s for the average user. I guess what I am wondering what current wiring from cable companies, copper not fibre, is capable of?
With fibre so expensive can wireless be the future?
Is it cheaper to build and maintain wireless towers or to run fibre to the living room?

I install this stuff, you won't see 14.7 Mb because they will restrict the bandwidth just like DSL has been restricted since it came out.

It will still be an improvement over the current speeds which top out around 384K to 512K.
I have seen technology capable of 2.2 Gig download speed but you will not see it most likely in your lifetime.

This is so they can charge a ton more money for each bump up in speed to squeeze every dollar possible out of the Americans. This is not what they do in other Countries.

In the U.S. it's all about every penny at the expense of the Country progressing. Enjoy

 

[zendari]

So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

 

[Moonbeam]

I am working on a device that will run my car by pulling energy out of all the broadband and other radiation in the air. If your service declines as the moonmobile whooshes by, wave.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world.
It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

Glad your parent's are rich Republicans, the rest of us are not.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world.
It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

Glad your parent's are rich Republicans, the rest of us are not.

Relative to the rest of the world you are a rich Republican.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

Not true.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

I'd rather they stop increasing farm subsidies and let prices for food drop to better levels.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

Americans pay far less of their INCOME for food than ANY country in the world.
Really, are you just addicted to truthiness with your wacky ideas?

 

[Lemon law]

American broadband is almost the shame of the world because American companies are trying to extract every nickle they can milk rather than deploying the best technology. So in many other countries--what they have shames the USA

Even if this is deployed by 2008, what will it cost and what will be the range. Only if the fees are low and many many people help pay for it can it be anything but a rich mans playtoy.

But if wireless is the wave of the future, lots of telephone companies are going to be stuck with huge DSL investments.

I live in a rural area---maybe I will get DSL by 2008----but I sure have been telling my phone comapny that if you snooze you can lose----cause if I have an alternative to the telephone company, I'll take it--even if I have to pay a liitle more---and rub it in their face every step of the way.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
American broadband is almost the shame of the world because American companies are trying to extract every nickle they can milk rather than deploying the best technology. So in many other countries--what they have shames the USA

It seems most people are more than happey with a standard dsl like for $15/month. I keep being tempted to drop my cable with is 3x faster than dsl, but it is also 3x cheaper. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go....

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

Most people only use the internet for email and the web. A really fast connection is not required for that, and people keep picking price over performance.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

Most people only use the internet for email and the web. A really fast connection is not required for that, and people keep picking price over performance.

Most people have the choose of dial up and maybe if they are lucky cable or DSL. Very few people have the choose between cable and DSL.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

Most people only use the internet for email and the web. A really fast connection is not required for that, and people keep picking price over performance.

Most people have the choose of dial up and maybe if they are lucky cable or DSL. Very few people have the choose between cable and DSL.

At this point most people in cities have the choice, it is reawlly only small and rural towns that have little or no choice.

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Lemon law
American broadband is almost the shame of the world because American companies are trying to extract every nickle they can milk rather than deploying the best technology. So in many other countries--what they have shames the USA

It seems most people are more than happey with a standard dsl like for $15/month. I keep being tempted to drop my cable with is 3x faster than dsl, but it is also 3x cheaper. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go....

I don't know where you live but where I live 1.5M dsl is $45/month. The same price as faster cable in my area.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Lemon law
American broadband is almost the shame of the world because American companies are trying to extract every nickle they can milk rather than deploying the best technology. So in many other countries--what they have shames the USA

It seems most people are more than happey with a standard dsl like for $15/month. I keep being tempted to drop my cable with is 3x faster than dsl, but it is also 3x cheaper. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go....

I don't know where you live but where I live 1.5M dsl is $45/month. The same price as faster cable in my area.

cable is $45/month for a 5 meg connection from roadrunner and base 1.5 meg dsl line can be had for $15 from SBC/ATT. I can know get phone service from road runner and and will soon be able to get cable tv from sbc/att. Things have changed a great deal in the past couple of years.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

I didn't say that. I see no reason why Amerians should pay more for less than the rest of the world. Of course since you are part of the Greed Greed Greed Republican crooks, you are perfectly OK with that.

America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.

Americans pay far less of their INCOME for food than ANY country in the world.
Really, are you just addicted to truthiness with your wacky ideas?

If you're measuring stuff as a % of income, compare cable/DSL prices as a % of americans (higher) incomes.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Not when it constantly gets cheaper to provide that extra bandwidth.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

Most people only use the internet for email and the web. A really fast connection is not required for that, and people keep picking price over performance.

It's amazing to watch Republicans.

Continously show how wrong they are yet they continue to post.

I feel like Pavlov.

4-8-2006 Networks Rush to Offer TV Shows Online

LOS ANGELES - These days, there's more than one way to get "Lost," visit "The Office" or keep "Law and Order." Six months after ABC struck the first deal to sell commercial-free TV episodes online, networks are rushing to offer everything from individual programs to season subscriptions.

Web viewers can even watch some shows for free ? with advertising.

The growing online availability of TV shows and original video produced by Yahoo, MSN and other sites has led some to predict the demise of traditional TV watching.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
So Dave, you think more bandwidth shouldn't cost more?

Maybe when the average American utilizes their full DSL/cable bandwidth we can worry about the country's progress.

Apparently you are only capable of surfing the Internet and reading and sending propaganda E-mail but most of us Technology proficient folks use all of our 1.5 meg down 225K Up and then some on a daily basis.

What are most people pulling up and down on a daily basis that consumes such bandwidth. Asking about stuff that is required for home use, not business requirements.

Unless you require video content on a continual basis for business; I can not see where the need to speed if coming from.

I send 10-20MB of data every data to clients (max) and get no more than 1-2 MB of attachment data (outside e-mail spam) per day.

Most people only use the internet for email and the web. A really fast connection is not required for that, and people keep picking price over performance.

It's amazing to watch Republicans.

Continously show how wrong they are yet they continue to post.

I feel like Pavlov.

4-8-2006 Networks Rush to Offer TV Shows Online

LOS ANGELES - These days, there's more than one way to get "Lost," visit "The Office" or keep "Law and Order." Six months after ABC struck the first deal to sell commercial-free TV episodes online, networks are rushing to offer everything from individual programs to season subscriptions.

Web viewers can even watch some shows for free ? with advertising.

The growing online availability of TV shows and original video produced by Yahoo, MSN and other sites has led some to predict the demise of traditional TV watching.

What is available does not mean that is will be desired.

Video currently is the big bandwidht demander. However, how many people really want to download shows continually. Then add to that mix; how many actually need to.

It would be interesting to know the actual demand for the online shows. It does not cost the networks anything to make them available.

Only the wealthy presently will have the capability (price wise) to support continual downloading of shows that will suck up the bandwidth.

And of course, someone will state that the wealthy are Republicans.