Hey with all the great news about Doom 3 and all i was wondering what ID has in store for us with quake. Unreal tournament 2004 is a great game with vehicles and assault back, so how is quake going to compete. Mind you ID has never let me down with their titles.
Quake 4?
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Quake 4 will use DX10 level technology.
note: This doenst mean it will be using DXNext. Just the level of technology behind it.
Sounded to me like NV40 Ultra is the min you want to run the game with
Of course I dont expect it out until 2006-07.
note: This doenst mean it will be using DXNext. Just the level of technology behind it.
Sounded to me like NV40 Ultra is the min you want to run the game with
Of course I dont expect it out until 2006-07.
Man, this thread is nothing but misinformation.
No, Quake 4 will not be based on DirectX 10 tech. It is using the EXACT same engine as Doom 3 - in other words, DirectX 7 technology.
It is not outsourced to Gray Matter, who did RtCW (crap). It has been given to the vastly talented Raven Software, who basically do the something Id can never do: Build a good game on an Id engine.
For the record Id has let me down. Every game since Doom 1 has been the same. Space Marine. Zombies. Same damn thing. Doom 3 does not have me excited in the least except for the pretty face, and no I don't plan to buy it.
Quake 4, on the other hand, since it's being done by Raven, is definitely on my watch list.
No, Quake 4 will not be based on DirectX 10 tech. It is using the EXACT same engine as Doom 3 - in other words, DirectX 7 technology.
It is not outsourced to Gray Matter, who did RtCW (crap). It has been given to the vastly talented Raven Software, who basically do the something Id can never do: Build a good game on an Id engine.
For the record Id has let me down. Every game since Doom 1 has been the same. Space Marine. Zombies. Same damn thing. Doom 3 does not have me excited in the least except for the pretty face, and no I don't plan to buy it.
Quake 4, on the other hand, since it's being done by Raven, is definitely on my watch list.
I'm not suprised you don't plan to buy it, since it is the same as Doom, they are just rehashing the story.
I don't see how you can say Quake 3 was the same though, totally different angle on it all. Not zombies, humans
Multiplayer, not single player.(Never really got into iD games though, Epic all the way for me, from Unreal to UT2k4, I have bought them all).
i belive doom3 will be an expirence worth while. plus we need to think past just the "doom" games. Think of all the games, mods, that are going to come out from this engine. I think we need to be prepaired to play games off this engine for another 3 years..
Originally posted by: Lonyo
I'm not suprised you don't plan to buy it, since it is the same as Doom, they are just rehashing the story.
I don't see how you can say Quake 3 was the same though, totally different angle on it all. Not zombies, humans
(Never really got into iD games though, Epic all the way for me, from Unreal to UT2k4, I have bought them all).
i wonder how the unreal 3 engine is going to compare against the doom3 one.. its gonna get interesting.
I'm not suprised you don't plan to buy it, since it is the same as Doom, they are just rehashing the story.
I don't see how you can say Quake 3 was the same though, totally different angle on it all. Not zombies, humans
Multiplayer, not single player.(Never really got into iD games though, Epic all the way for me, from Unreal to UT2k4, I have bought them all).[/quote]
This is true - Quake 3 was not more of the same. I didn't care for it however since there was a better alterantive at the same time - Unreal Tournament.
And yes, I too prefer Epic's work - I own every Unreal game released for the PC (including Unreal 2, minor stinker that it was).
Uh, the Unreal Engine 3 is going to spank Doom 3 tech...but that SHOULD be the case, as it's coming out two years later.
Just like Doom 3 tech spanks the current Unreal Engine tech powering UT2k4, for example. A two year gap is a hell of a thing in engine development.
One can look at the early footage of UE3 in action and already see how it is visibly superior - the normal maps, for one, are far more detailed. But like I said, all this should be expected given the timeframe.
It is already being made as we speak. RavenSoft is developing with id overlooking. For what its worth, I think Soldier of Fortune 2 is the best use of the quake engine period. Better than Q3 itself. I'm EXTREMELY excited to see them developing Quake I||I
Same. It's the first game with "Quake" in the title that I've ever been interested - solely because Raven is doing it.
If you're talking about the graphics engine, then it would be better to say OpenGL, with Directx for IO. You statement implies DX7 for the graphics engine. Even then, every id tech based game over the last couple of years have required DX8, so I don't see why they would take a step back in newer tech.
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D3 is going to be a completly different game then the others. Almost like a playable sci-fi horror movie. Its focusing more on the enviorment, plot, and suspense rather than just going through rooms blowing crap up. What critics think of the game now that all it is a platform for the next FPS graphics engine with no game backing it.
Required DX8 for all the features. The Doom 3 engine could run on a GeForce 1 - just not at playable framerates. It's two year old graphics features, but the cards are just getting powerful enough to run them now...The same way with DX9. In three years we'll see games with DX9 as a minimum that are using some DX10 features, but will run on older stuff.
The Soldier of Fortune games, Star Trek: Elite Force 1, Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast....
In other words, good stuff on Id engines.
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I guess I still don't quite get what you're saying. The graphics in id's games have nothing to do with Direct X. From what I undertstand graphic features like their uniform lighting system has nothing to do with Direct X, and I'm not even sure another game has made use of this kind of tech yet. A Geforce 256 can be DX 7 compliant, but that doesn't matter. The OpenGL support and performance is the real requirement. The DX part is for sound, networking, IO, etc. Unless I'm mistaken, implying Doom 3 is DX7 tech is very misleading.
Ugh, ok, infer some here.
Yes, Id's renderer's are built on OpenGL, so they technically have nothing to do with DX technology. However, the features that are being put to use in the Doom 3 tech mostly came around in the timeframe of DX7 and the original GeForce.
I suppose a clearer way to state it would be that Doom 3 is built on GeForce 1 level tech?
I'm glad to see Quake4 fall into Raven's hands. They are an awesome company that made some great games. I've enjoyed all of ID's work though. Quake2 is probably my favorite ID game of all time. If Quake 4 goes along those lines, and it might since Raven's stuff has mostly been strongly first-person story-oriented, I'll be a happy camper.
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