QQ Snapdragon 810 overheating issues: delay?

[Kallogan]

upcoming cherry trail, the arm killer ?

Stay tuned

 

[witeken]

upcoming cherry trail, the arm killer ?

Stay tuned

Cherry Trail won't kill anything. The high-margin mobile boat already sailed away for Intel to be able to milk the market with a cheap dual-issue architecture. Intel should seriously invest in integrating Core into an SoC, because Apple will definitively not go to a lower IPC architecture.

 

[Kallogan]

Intel should seriously invest in integrating Core into an SoC

yup seems a good compromise to me too

 

[jdubs03]

I agree, I feel like it would be easier for go with core y series and scale down rather than goldmont and scale up. But they are two different use cases, but yea I think the A9 is going to be a beast, especially, if they do an A9X.

Its on Apple to integrate Mac os x and ios to make the best experience possible.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Intel should seriously invest in integrating Core into an SoC

Can that really be done on a die area and price that is competive with ARM SoCs (A53/A57 based and beyond)?

 

[witeken]

Can that really be done on a die area and price that is competive with ARM SoCs (A53/A57 based and beyond)?

It's called feature creeping. That also seems cheaper to me than developing a whole separate core, although Atom might still be good for other (like the IoT) markets.

 

[Sweepr]

found this searching online via gsmarena:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1466744

vs.

exynos 5433 (i know sweepr has benches but they got a bit lost)
http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582/

results are as expected, similar as least per geekbench.

edit: here is that thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2407781

1282 single-core, that's a 154 point difference from the androidauthority benches.

Way too low scores for Snapdragon 810 considering it's a 1.958/1.555GHz A57/A53 SoC, especially if it's running in 64-bit mode. I'm doing ~1300/4300 with Exynos 5433. Using custom kernel and a slight 2.0/1.5GHz overclock (A57/A53 cores) it manages close to 1400/5000 @ 32-bit. Overheating issues on Qualcomm's part? Perhaps too early to judge. That score comes from an unreleased S810-based Note 4, which should allow some interesting comparisons. I'd also like to see some comparisons between Samsung and TSCM's 20nm process.

 

[jhu]

Way too low scores for Snapdragon 810 considering it's a 1.958/1.555GHz A57/A53 SoC, especially if it's running in 64-bit mode. I'm doing ~1300/4300 with Exynos 5433. Using custom kernel and a slight 2.0/1.5GHz overclock (A57/A53 cores) it manages close to 1400/5000 @ 32-bit. Overheating issues on Qualcomm's part? Perhaps too early to judge. That score comes from an unreleased S810-based Note 4, which should allow some interesting comparisons. I'd also like to see some comparisons between Samsung and TSCM's 20nm process.

I'd like to see a development board with one of these and a proper heat sink to see what the actual performance is without thermal throttling.

 

[jhu]

I'd like to see a development board with one of these and a proper heat sink to see what the actual performance is without thermal throttling.

Found one. Wonder how much it is?

 

[pw257008]

Found one. Wonder how much it is?

$500

 

[jhu]

$500

Would I be crazy to buy this?

 

[Nothingness]

Samsung has been experimenting with 810 Note 4.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/1444059?baseline=1466744

 

[III-V]

Samsung has been experimenting with 810 Note 4.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/1444059?baseline=1466744

Man, Qualcomm is really falling behind.

 

[jdubs03]

That's a really good score, both single and multi-core, for the Exynos version. And yea Qualcomm should have done a custom cpu core.

 

[III-V]

That's a really good score, both single and multi-core, for the Exynos version. And yea Qualcomm should have done a custom cpu core.

That is custom, it's just their old version ported to 20nm, mostly.

 

[jhu]

That is custom, it's just their old version ported to 20nm, mostly.

810 uses stock ARM CPU core. Everything around it is custom.

 

[III-V]

810 uses stock ARM CPU core. Everything around it is custom.

Ah, crap. It's been too long since I read about it. Thanks.