Q9450 available anywhere?

[bryanW1995]

yeah, but they had them for $299 last week. there is definitely a shortage of these guys...

 

[runawayprisoner]

Really? I thought it was Microcenter that had them for $299.99.

Either way, I'm happy with my current chip, and I guess I won't need another one, but just so others can have a chance.

 

[bryanW1995]

oops, you're right, it was microcenter! I just looked at my oem box with "microcenter" on it. ; I guess I'm blinded by my fascination with driving by fry's twice a week!

 

[runawayprisoner]

Haha, I can understand that. Tsk... you wouldn't believe how many times I visit Radioshack a week.

 

[Skraeling]

Got mine from tankguys as well.

 

[PsylockeSmythe]

Was getting ready to place my order today with Tankguys and they are now out of stock

I wanted to get the retail boxed version due to the 3 year warranty; since the OEM's only have a 30 day warranty and then what ever warranty that the seller wants to provide.

Psy

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

The markup is irrelevant to the consumer. The point is when I ordered my Q9450 (en route) both Tank Guys and MicroCenter had them in stock, but MC was $30 cheaper. So, I went with MC. I even missed the $50 off coupon so I paid $355 (shipped) instead of $305, but it was still cheaper than Tank Guys. Had I gotten the $50 coupon, that would have been an $80 price difference between TG and MC for the same cpu.

It is cool that you will post on our forums, and that will certainly factor into future purchase decisions. I would definitely go with a retailer that posts on a forum that I frequent, even if it did mean a few more $$ out of my pocket. Maybe like $5-10 more though, not $30-80...

 

[runawayprisoner]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

I'd say about 10% to 20% at most. If your price is lower, you can sell much more than others, and then the difference between you selling 9 chips with a 10% profit back and someone else selling 2 to 3 chips with a 30% profit will be noticeable. You'd obviously sell out much faster, and should your stocks be ample, it'll make for a very good deal for both you and your buyers.

Meanwhile, the one who marks up the chip for more than 30% might not be able to sell as well as you do, and then he will have to hold his processors until prices drop even further. Meanwhile, you can keep getting supplies and selling the same way. What you will also earn out of this, is the name of the cheapest and most reliable seller in the chain. Later on, even if you mark your prices up by 30%, you can still sell them because you have had a lot of faithful customers by then. It's the same way Newegg works. They had cheap stuffs before, and people came to them. Now their prices aren't that cheap, but people don't like to shop for separate items in separate places either, so they'll sacrifice the difference (usually $10 - $20, or even up to $50) to get from Newegg, and they're guaranteed then that all their stuffs will arrive at the same time.

Just my two cents. It's still all up to you, though.

 

[Purple Lizzard]

Question is who has the Q9540 in stock now? Tank Guys in out. Micro Center doesn't even list them and NewEgg pulled their item listing.

 

[bryanW1995]

look for x3350's also. my x3350 oc's at least as well as the 9450 that I have and the other 9450's that I've seen. in fact, in every instance that I've seen the 45nm quads with decent cooling have been limited by the mobo's ability to crank up the fsb rather than the cpu's ability to clock higher.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

I think that jen-hsun huang has the right idea in this area: charge as much as you can for as long as you can! Obviously you should have charged more than the $380 b/c they sold out at that price. 9450 is a low supply/high demand item and should be priced appropriately. Microcenter/fry's like to play the game of attracting customers to their stores with big discounts in the hope that the customers will end up buying additional items to make up for the forgone profit on the "hook" item. It seems to me that it's much harder to do that online successfully than it is to do at a b&m store, however.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Originally posted by: Purple Lizzard
Question is who has the Q9540 in stock now? Tank Guys in out. Micro Center doesn't even list them and NewEgg pulled their item listing.

I do... but they're going to cost you. Just tell me how many chips you want, and I'll give you a quote.

Edit: And I know that these are really scarce and hard to find. Which is why I didn't say exact prices to TankGuys, because I can quite guess how much they marked the price up.

 

[Purple Lizzard]

Originally posted by: runawayprisoner

Originally posted by: Purple Lizzard
Question is who has the Q9540 in stock now? Tank Guys in out. Micro Center doesn't even list them and NewEgg pulled their item listing.

I do... but they're going to cost you. Just tell me how many chips you want, and I'll give you a quote.

Edit: And I know that these are really scarce and hard to find. Which is why I didn't say exact prices to TankGuys, because I can quite guess how much they marked the price up.

Looking for 2

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: runawayprisoner

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

I'd say about 10% to 20% at most. If your price is lower, you can sell much more than others, and then the difference between you selling 9 chips with a 10% profit back and someone else selling 2 to 3 chips with a 30% profit will be noticeable. You'd obviously sell out much faster, and should your stocks be ample, it'll make for a very good deal for both you and your buyers.

Meanwhile, the one who marks up the chip for more than 30% might not be able to sell as well as you do, and then he will have to hold his processors until prices drop even further. Meanwhile, you can keep getting supplies and selling the same way. What you will also earn out of this, is the name of the cheapest and most reliable seller in the chain. Later on, even if you mark your prices up by 30%, you can still sell them because you have had a lot of faithful customers by then. It's the same way Newegg works. They had cheap stuffs before, and people came to them. Now their prices aren't that cheap, but people don't like to shop for separate items in separate places either, so they'll sacrifice the difference (usually $10 - $20, or even up to $50) to get from Newegg, and they're guaranteed then that all their stuffs will arrive at the same time.

Just my two cents. It's still all up to you, though.

Thanks for the reply

Interestingly, we were below the lowest range you mentioned. I think most people would be amazed at how razor thin margins are in this industry, even on these "highly" marked up items

 

[bryanW1995]

I feel your pain. I sell cars. Most people are accustomed to 15%, 20% or even 25+% markup on cars. The problem is that some cars have rebates and some don't. The cars without rebate average 5-10% markup max, so what do you do? People just assume that you're "killing" them if you sell, say, a jeep wrangler rubicon for msrp, yet imho msrp is a good deal on one of them. Right now msrp on a q9450 is an awesome deal, and even OVER msrp is great for people who want it NOW and can't afford to wait. If I had searched all around when I got my x3350 and the best deal on that or a 9450 was 379.99, guess what? I would have happily paid that price. People who complain about newegg's pricing algorithm don't seem to understand that it costs newegg a LOT more money to run out of high demand items, just like tankguys can benefit from having Q9450's in stock when everyone else is out of them.

edit: ben, you're not going to win a "we only have x % markup" argument on a web site most of the time. Some items you have to compete on price, fortunately, on the 45nm quads that's not the case.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: runawayprisoner

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: figgly
Judging TankGuys by their prices for the Q6600 ($290) and E8400 ($250), one can surmise that the price of their Q9450 ($380) includes a substantial nerd tax.

Yes, these were marked up a bit more than usual.

I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind?

I'd say about 10% to 20% at most. If your price is lower, you can sell much more than others, and then the difference between you selling 9 chips with a 10% profit back and someone else selling 2 to 3 chips with a 30% profit will be noticeable. You'd obviously sell out much faster, and should your stocks be ample, it'll make for a very good deal for both you and your buyers.

Meanwhile, the one who marks up the chip for more than 30% might not be able to sell as well as you do, and then he will have to hold his processors until prices drop even further. Meanwhile, you can keep getting supplies and selling the same way. What you will also earn out of this, is the name of the cheapest and most reliable seller in the chain. Later on, even if you mark your prices up by 30%, you can still sell them because you have had a lot of faithful customers by then. It's the same way Newegg works. They had cheap stuffs before, and people came to them. Now their prices aren't that cheap, but people don't like to shop for separate items in separate places either, so they'll sacrifice the difference (usually $10 - $20, or even up to $50) to get from Newegg, and they're guaranteed then that all their stuffs will arrive at the same time.

Just my two cents. It's still all up to you, though.

Thanks for the reply

Interestingly, we were below the lowest range you mentioned. I think most people would be amazed at how razor thin margins are in this industry, even on these "highly" marked up items

I know it's actually less than that (hence why it's up to you to decide whether or not you should up it). Because however I look at it now, prices have gone up by another 10%, and now if I get them and resell them at a bit over 10%, it'll actually be at $399.99 for a retail one! I can't even find OEM chips anywhere around here.

Now that makes me wonder how Microcenter sold their OEM chips at $299.99. Maybe supply was more ample then. Intel really needs to speed production up now.

Oh yeah, and Purple Lizard, as said above, $399.99 per retail CPU, and I don't even have OEM on my hands to begin with. On top of that, my suppliers won't even guarantee that they can get the chips for me (!!?) but if you're willing to go with that price (right about now), I'll see if I can get the chips here by next week.

 

[figgly]

"I'm curious though, in your opinion, what is a "reasonable" markup percentage? Before factoring in any costs at all, just wholesale price.

What, off the top of your head, would be a good percentage in your mind? "

As NitroMullet suggested, your cost structure is not relevant to me.

Your prices are simply higher than available elsewhere for what is a commodity product. I see you have actually raised your price for the 9450 to $390 this week. I purchased one a few weeks ago for $340 at Frys with free shipping.

While I appreciate that the processor is currently undersupplied in the market and that you can obtain a premium simply for having it available, I question the longer term benefit of doing it. I've spent a lot of money at places like NewEgg and Frys. I've not yet done business with your store but I now associate you with charging premium prices when a product is first available. So is it better to make an extra $40 or to convert someone to a long term customer. I'm not saying being the company that can get hard to find product and selling it at a premium isn't a good biz model. It's simply not a place I would choose to shop.