Originally posted by: nRollo
No radical shifts in the market.
Originally posted by: rjc
Originally posted by: nRollo
No radical shifts in the market.
Notebook sales up 40% in one quarter is not radical?...soon your kids will start getting beaten up at school if they don't have a netbook(they mightn't have much computing power, but it sure hurts to get hit by one)
Good timing for nvidia with their integrated notebook chipset.
FWIW Original is here
Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: rjc
Originally posted by: nRollo
No radical shifts in the market.
Notebook sales up 40% in one quarter is not radical?...soon your kids will start getting beaten up at school if they don't have a netbook(they mightn't have much computing power, but it sure hurts to get hit by one)
Good timing for nvidia with their integrated notebook chipset.
FWIW Original is here
I was referring to overall marketshares, some had speculated their would be big changes based on a variety of factors.
Originally posted by: Janooo
Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: rjc
Originally posted by: nRollo
No radical shifts in the market.
Notebook sales up 40% in one quarter is not radical?...soon your kids will start getting beaten up at school if they don't have a netbook(they mightn't have much computing power, but it sure hurts to get hit by one)
Good timing for nvidia with their integrated notebook chipset.
FWIW Original is here
I was referring to overall marketshares, some had speculated their would be big changes based on a variety of factors.
NV had 13.3% lead over AMD in Q2. Now it's only 7.2% in Q3. NV lost 45.9% of the lead. If the trend continues then they'll have about equal overall market share after Q4.
What would you consider radical if 46% is not?
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Wow, that is an interesting way to look at it.
I guess if company A has 19.9% while company B has 20% for one quarter and then next quarter A has 20.2% and B has 20% you would consider that a 300% marketshare change?
Seriously, that makes no sense at all
Originally posted by: nRollo
I was referring to overall marketshares, some had speculated their would be big changes based on a variety of factors.
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: nRollo
I was referring to overall marketshares, some had speculated their would be big changes based on a variety of factors.
A lot of people thought the 4xxx series would be AMD's savior. The good news is the 4850 was the best selling card last quarter, however NVIDIA took 7 of the top 10 spots.
http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/15791
Originally posted by: ViRGE
The big shifts tend to be in Q4 with all of the Christmas sales, I believe.
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: nRollo
I was referring to overall marketshares, some had speculated their would be big changes based on a variety of factors.
A lot of people thought the 4xxx series would be AMD's savior. The good news is the 4850 was the best selling card last quarter, however NVIDIA took 7 of the top 10 spots.
http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/15791
As far as I can make out, Nvidia is on a obvious downwards trend, whereas AMD is on a more less equal/upwards trend.
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
As far as I can make out, Nvidia is on a obvious downwards trend, whereas AMD is on a more less equal/upwards trend.
1Q is an obvious trend- I have to hear an explenation of this, seriously. Unless you are very narrowly restricting your comments to notebook GPUs prior to the new Apple contract then I don't see how you can see a trend forming on 1Q worth of data.
Here is a 4 year breakout. In that timeframe, ATi has lost about 30% of its' marketshare while nV has gained about 50%- two year comparison would have both of them almost equal- those are trends you can look at. In terms of trends the only clear cut winner at this point is Intel, only Via/SiS are clearly losers over the longer term. ATi/nV are going back and forth as they have been for a while now.
It certainly did not hinder them at all. I would say the 48xx is the best card ATI has released since the X19xx.Originally posted by: thilan29
That's only for ONE month. ATI gained 2.5% in graphics marketshare and 55% in total sales in Q3 over Q2 2008 and that definitely has something to do with the 4XXX series. It wasn't AMDs saviour but it definitely didn't hinder the company.
Originally posted by: Wreckage
It certainly did not hinder them at all. I would say the 48xx is the best card ATI has released since the X19xx.
Originally posted by: thilan29
And hopefully (IMO) it's a turning point where they can get back marketshare to be approximately equal to nVidia (they've got a long way to go). Them being equal I think is better for us consumers.
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
As far as I can make out, Nvidia is on a obvious downwards trend, whereas AMD is on a more less equal/upwards trend.
1Q is an obvious trend- I have to hear an explenation of this, seriously. Unless you are very narrowly restricting your comments to notebook GPUs prior to the new Apple contract then I don't see how you can see a trend forming on 1Q worth of data.
Here is a 4 year breakout. In that timeframe, ATi has lost about 30% of its' marketshare while nV has gained about 50%- two year comparison would have both of them almost equal- those are trends you can look at. In terms of trends the only clear cut winner at this point is Intel, only Via/SiS are clearly losers over the longer term. ATi/nV are going back and forth as they have been for a while now.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Even with the bad PR of GT200 launch nV only loses 3%?
I guess the 30% drop in price really did help them stem the tide, even if it alienated some partners for a month or so.
I cant wait for the next round from nV and AMD.
Did you even look at the graph ? They went up .8% once, but after that they lost 5.2%, ending up 4.4% below their marketshare from a year earlier. Not sure what kind of statistic classes you had, but mine surely allowed for the use of 1 year trends ... It's volatile, sure, but chances are bigger nvidia will lose even more marketshare in Q4 '08, bigger then gaining marketshare.
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
The numbers you are talking about are for notebooks/laptops only(look at the chart you are using again ) and nVidia just landed the single largest notebook contract in the world.